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Old 26-02-2008, 15:43
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Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Please, Swim did search but couldn't find any existing threads that were as specific as he would have liked, so that is why he has asked me to post.

Swim scored some ketamine recently that was different in appearance to how he has seen it most times. The ketamine Swim has had before was quite similar to grains of salt or sugar, and were particularly cube-shaped. The ketamine Swim got recently is extremely crystaline and it's very flakey. The crystals are long and thin and some are particularly large. Swims first question is - is this ok?

And now for some other questions on Swim's mind... Should Swim slightly crush these crystals before insufflating? Does the size of them affect administration? Does a bigger crystal take longer to dissolve than a smaller one, and is there a chance it might not fully dissolve? Is it possible to ruin the ketamine by over-crushing? Since the crystals appear to be sharp, can they cut Swim's nasal passages and cause bleeding?

If Swim gets chance he says he will take a picture and ask to upload it.
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Old 26-02-2008, 16:04
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

A general rule when snorting is to crush to as fine a powder as possible to increase the surface area of the substance being fired up against your mucus membranes.

flakey crystalline Ket suggests it was cooked down from liquid on a big flat surface like a plate, leaving flat layers of crystal behind.

Of course I would not advise anyone to snort ketamine because drugs are bad.
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Old 26-02-2008, 22:34
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Yeah, it basically means that this ket was cooked up slowly, and allowed to form longer crystals, than the more "salty" ket that people sometimes encounter, which usually means the gear was cooked up rather more quickly.

It dosen't reflect badly on the quality at all.

It might be worth crushing it up (press the K hard between the flat side of SWIY's card and surface and grind it around a bit right before snorting - dont try and "cut" the crystals using the card as a blade, this never works), as sometimes this kind of K can be quite tough to snort.
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Old 28-02-2008, 22:08
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Long and flakey... You know, my Bill thinks this is the best sort? Indeed it has been cooked slowly if it appears like this. My Bill and his friend left some to it's own devices in an airing cupboard and when scraped came up just like this. It was interesting for him to see the different textures that occured with different methods. He says the microwave was almost gritty, the plate over water was about medium between them and yeah, the slow cook was like snow flakes. He also found this to give a slightly different trip. Lucky SWIY is all I can say!
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Old 31-03-2008, 11:07
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Swim used to always get flakey ket, it looked like little glass shards, if it wasnt flakey, he wouldnt buy it. Swim says that when its flakey it means that it was cooked with care and attention. When its gritty, it usually means it came outta the microwave or its been cut. When swim first got flakey ket he sniffed a line and it started burning his nose so swim now crushes it up but recently the ket he's been gettin is like powder and he can really tell the difference, swim wouldnt say its weaker but the trip is different
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:33
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Hmm, guess SWIM has made nearly the same experiences with drying K. He means that the shorter it is dried, the more potency it loses. In fact he placed a deep plate (sry) in his oven on 40°C and placed some photos of Baba´s and some other indian gurus besides some NagChampa incense sticks in his oven when he started to mumbling uncommon things.

To come to the point, SWIM means that you can really feel hw he K is dried/produced. With or without love
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Old 21-05-2008, 00:04
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

swim has heard that ketamine of this appearance has yet to be dissolved into water and then cooked, and is closer to the original ketamine form synthesised. This is just based on what someone told swim tho, im not sure about its accuracy..
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Old 21-05-2008, 01:30
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Should it be dissolved into water? My Bill hasn't heard of this before, or maybe he has but can't remember or see the point of it.
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Old 21-05-2008, 10:03
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

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swim has heard that ketamine of this appearance has yet to be dissolved into water and then cooked, and is closer to the original ketamine form synthesised. This is just based on what someone told swim tho, im not sure about its accuracy..
Swim doesnt think this is right.. I mean ket + water - water = ket? its all the same!
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Old 20-01-2009, 17:15
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Sorry to bump an old thread, however Swim had a question and remembered this thread.

The last time Swim used ketamine, he poured his crystals onto a glass table, placed a note over the pile and rubbed the edge of his credit card over it several times. The result was very fine powder-like ketamine (obviously, he had crushed the crystals). He insufflated the powder.

His question is, was this a good idea? When Swim remembers Chemistry lessons at school, the bigger the surface area, the better the reaction. Does the same logic apply to this situation? Would crushing it up into a fine powder benefit Swim in regards to the onset and intensity of the effects? Swim's logic is that the finer/smaller the particles, the easier and quicker they are to get absorbed into Swim's nasal tissue. What Swim felt from this particular experience was almost disappointing. He still K-holed, but the effects didn't seem as intense as they have been before (when Swim hasn't crushed the hell out of his crystals). Perhaps Swim has just built up a tolerance and this is the only thing making him think the ketamine didn't do as expected.

Swim does not doubt for one second that his ketamine was "bad" ketamine (Swim is lucky he can always score really top notch ketamine). What are Swiy's experiences with crushing crystals into a fine powder? Is it worth it? Does it change anything? In future, should Swiy just break up the larger crystals and leave the rest?
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Old 20-01-2009, 18:12
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Yes, crushing it up into smaller particles does increase surface area and therefore absorbtion! Its also easier on your nose, especially with ketamine. Squirrell isn't satisfied until his k is completely powdered - the note + edge of credit card is the best method.
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Old 20-01-2009, 23:50
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Swim would also like an answer to this question, since he has a little bag of flaky k and is trying to decide how to do it. Swim agrees that the logic is, finer particles means better absorbtion. Yet Swim has also had a disappointing experience when crushing very finely. Is this a coincidence, Swim would like to know, or is there some reason why fine powder wouldn't absorb as well as bigger crystals?
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Re: Very long, thin, flakey crystals (rather than grains)

Do not microwave your ket, or any drugs for that matter. when you microwave you're making all the molecules vibrate very rapidly to heat up but this also speeds up degradation, meaning weaker ket or a different chemical with similar but different effects (a possible explanation to the different trips when dried fast.) swim would air dry, or at most the warm water method. Time, patience, and love is all you need for good k

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