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Old 14-06-2008, 10:10
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Is ~20 times an year a safe frequency for...

Hi al. Pleased to meet you.
I read a few posts an i believe i understood the style in which to ask questions so if i messed it up please forgive my ignorance

Swim fihished colledge and does some recreational drugs, for alternative methods of fun and exploration. Swim did shrooms once, DMT twice and smokes weed like every other young hipster in his country.

Swim's did simple Speed/Amphetamine last summer for that extra kick, confidence, profound conversations and improved flirting, mostly related to
to parties near the beach line.

Swim did it weekly, with around 15-20 times total till the end of summer, and has been modest in quantity.

And now for the question:
Swim is concerned about his health, and possible negative effects of such a lifestyle. He is planning on doing some speed for 10-20 nights out during the summer again. Swim tries to be cautious with his health,
but he wants a down to earth explanation about what he could expect in the short and long-term. Please dont scare swim with overdramatic "when lab rats were given 12523 shots of speed per day permanent damage occured" posts unless really justified. If that much can be concidered "safe", please give/link swim some advice on what what things he can do to improve safeness (eg. drink lotsa milk, dont smoke too much tobbaco).

basically the scariest shit his friends told him was that is that every line slightly impair your dopamine production forever and ever so with every line you get more depressed, lethargic and attention deficited.


sorry for the long post, I hate myself too

dead_elvis added 2 Minutes and 50 Seconds later...

forgot to mention.
Swim stopped somewhere in september and started at the end of may this year.

dead_elvis added 57 Minutes and 20 Seconds later...

OK i did some browsing and this seemed pretty interesting.
Is the tolerance reversible by just stopping amph?
Or are people "never the same again" ?

"Tolerance to dopamine does happen, but dopamine is not the only neurotransmitter that is affected by amphetamine. Norepinephrine is also affected by amphetamine. What seems to happen is this: The recreational effects are tolerated, but the cognitive improvement from them remains.

This calls for a little lesson in human anatomy and neurology.

Norepinephrine is usually excitory, and dopamine is usually inhibitory. The autonomic nervous system is controlled by parasympathetic and sympathetic neurons. Parasympathetic neurons are what are active whenever you are calm, relaxed, sedated. You begin to salivate, you digest your food, blood flow to the skin is high, homeostasis is the most important goal, your pupils constrict. Sympathetic neurons are what are active whenever you have your ass on the line. Your body is focused more on the challenge at hand, and its main evolutionary purpose is survival. Your pupils dilate to see more of your surroundings. Your stomach stops digesting food, your muscles react faster, your heart rate increases, and blood is shunted more to your muscles and internal organs, especially the brain, rather than the skin. The sympathetic system is often named the "fight or flight" response.

Taking amphetamines activates the sympathetic nervous system more than the parasympathetic nervous system, and we "abuse" our evolutionary nature by creating a false sense of the need for survival, say, when swimmers use it to take a test or clean the house. The body builds tolerance to dopamine's mood enhancing effects, but norepinephrine is very closely related to adrenalin and epinephrine, which the (as long as it is in high enough concentrations) will ALWAYS activate the sympathetic nervous system, so the therapeutic effects never go away."

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