4-HO-MET experiences

[trptamene]

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Originally Posted by EXAMPLE

Dosage: 15 mg dissolved in one glass juice.
Route: Orally
Duration: 6 hours

Info about this drug (other than experiences) should be discussed here: Drug info - 4-HO-MET
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[jaysson]

Dosage: 25-30mg dissolved in a glass of water.
Route: Orally
Duration: 12 hours, of which the first 5-6 hours might be called psychedelic activity.



I heard that SWIM took 25-30mg of 4-HO-MET yesterday. He had eaten only some bread a couple of hours earlier. After downing the glass of water with the foul tasting substance mixed in, approximately at 6:40 PM, he felt a little heroic, as it was a pretty high dose of a pretty unknown chemical, from a completely new source. In my opinion, the proper route to go for him would have been to try very small amounts first, but I guess SWIM was not thinking very straight. In any case, the experience turned out quite well for him.

Ten minutes after ingestion SWIM was already feeling the effects coming up very quickly. At this point, he began questioning whether the substance was 4-HO-MET at all. Maybe it was some other substance, requiring a much lower dosage, and he had just taken a massive overdose? A feeling of panic began arising, and he was thinking whether to force vomiting or not. Apart from the psychological reaction, there were no other negative effects, though, and he remembered that drinking quite a hefty dose of mushroom tea half a year ago began to take hold just as quickly. As 4-HO-MET was supposed to be somewhat like psilocybin/psilocin, he decided to wait just a little bit more.

After that decision, which was made approximately 30 minutes after ingesting the substance, SWIM and his sober friend (A) decided to take a bike ride to another friend (B) of theirs. As they were leaving SWIM's apartment, the feeling of anxiety began diminishing. Now he began to notice the more likable effects of the substance, starting with rather beautiful fractals on his carpets, and a nice body buzz, which felt much more friendly than with many other psychedelic chemicals, particularly phenethylamines. As they finally began pedaling, SWIM was very focused on that activity, and forgot the feeling of anxiety almost completely. During their ten minute ride, his mind wandered mostly around subjects of traffic safety. He was overly cautious when crossing streets, which is probably a good thing on psychedelics.

After arriving on B's apartment, approximately 45 minutes after ingestion, SWIM began focusing on the effects of the drug again. He noticed that the effects did not seem to be rising in intensity anymore, and a feeling of "what to do now?" came over him. Why did he take that substance? He had already had his fair share of psychedelics half a year ago, and his frequency of use had dropped from taking high dosages twice a week, to experimenting with minimal dosages about once or twice a month. Now he was on a full-blown trip from a chemical new to him, but he was not feeling that interested in the effects. He could not focus on anything for very long, as his mind was racing on different subjects presented by the environment and his friends. Although he could see crazy fractals and other patterns everywhere, he did not bother to focus on them.

Not long afterwards, B asked whether they would like to smoke a joint or a blunt, and they decided to have the former. B was also going to try 4-HO-MET that day, and after seeing that SWIM was looking pretty normal, he took some 20mg before they went outside to smoke the joint. Unlike SWIM, B quickly began praising how nice the substance already felt, and that it was bound to be an interesting evening. He seemed to be having so much fun. Already before the joint, SWIM had began slipping to the cynical state which had slowly become like his second nature during the last year or so. As his friends were getting baked from the joint, and as B was constantly reporting just how great 4-HO-MET felt, he wondered why other people were always having so much fun, while he himself would only feel guilty afterwards if he had too much fun, particularly on drugs. Still he could not think of his newfound cynicism in anything but positive light. On the contrary, he was even more convinced that a lifestyle aimed towards having fun is ultimately doomed. He thought that he would rather be at home, as he felt that among friends, his altered state of mind was only a burden, as he did not want to have fun, and that was about the only thing he could do, and had done, with his friends.

The joint did not affect SWIM very much in his already altered condition, and after that they were to play a game of Texas Hold'Em Poker. It was a game he had begun playing only recently, mostly to have fun. Because of the even-more-cynical-than-usual state he was in, he really did not want to play, but to please his friends, he entered the game anyway. At the beginning, he found it interesting rather than fun, and played quite boldly, which seemed to be a successful strategy for a while. But focusing on the game was hard, as he constantly found his mind wandering on subjects not related to poker at all. He also noticed that his hands were sweating so much, that it was hard to handle the cards when it was his turn to deal. B also reported similar sweating, which seemed to be the only thing about the effects bothering him. After SWIM's successful strategy began to lose effectiveness, he realized that if he were to win, he would have to sit at the table for a few hours, wasting most of the duration of the effects on trying to stay focused on a game of patience. It did not seem like a great idea, so he started playing even more boldly, and quickly lost. What a great excuse it was for him to move to another room, and sit at the computer privately. This was what he would have done in the first place, if he had only stayed home.

As SWIM began reading conversations on IRC channels, he had the familiar, comfortable feeling of not having to do anything in the real world, but instead being able to focus on (hopefully) intelligent conversations. The conversations he focused on were mainly related on the subject of different reasons to use drugs. For instance, he began wondering why some people would compulsively use any amount of drugs they had, even if the amounts were way too low for anything but threshold effects. Then these people would complain about how they just cannot live without constantly being drugged. He realized that it had been the same for him not so long ago, and he was greatly ashamed of that. In fact, he could not think of himself in the past as nothing else than a truly twisted being. He imagined how he would think of himself at this point in time a year later. Would he be similarly ashamed of himself? Most likely. Perhaps that is a never-ending cycle for the cynic.

After a while, about 3 hours after taking the drug, another friend (C) of SWIM's came by. He did not feel C to be as hedonistic a person as his other friends, but had not been in touch with him for a while. He had often felt like he would like to be closer friends with C, but had no idea how that would be possible. Clearly his altered state of mind was not of any help at this time. As he thought of something to say, his mind quickly strayed on other subjects, then back to thinking of something to say, and so on. After 15 minutes of listening to his friends conversing with each other, he heroically asked C the question "do you already have internet access at your new apartment?". SWIM had thought of the exact words for minutes, and carefully thought what kind of responses the question could cause, and what he would respond to those responses. It caused a conversation between his friends about nothing particularly interesting, and he was once again looping over what to say, or whether to say anything. He felt alienated, to say the least. Any connection he tried to have with his friends felt forced.

After listening to his friends conversing with each other for a while, SWIM and his group of friends proceeded to smoke some more cannabis, this time a blunt instead of a joint. Almost four hours had already passed from ingestion, and he felt that the plateau of the effects began to pass, but quite slowly. His mind would still race around any subjects presented to it, though, and while smoking the blunt they had even some interesting conversations, about taking loans and some government policies. Now SWIM felt a little more talkative, and he could take part in the conversations. He was still very wary of his words, though. After they came back inside, SWIM noticed that the blunt had intensified the visual activity a bit, and this time he took some time to focus on the interesting patterns he saw everywhere. The thought-provoking effects of the drug were still steadily declining, and SWIM's ability to focus on things was coming back. At around this time, though, he began noticing some nasty jaw clenching, which persisted for as long as he was awake after that.

After about 5 hours into the experience, the interesting parts of it seemed to be mainly over, but SWIM was still feeling quite altered. They played some more card games, and this time SWIM even allowed himself to have some fun, without feeling overly guilty. At around 1:30 AM he finally decided to go back home. The effects of the drug were still clearly noticeable, although they might be classified as after-effects by some. He did not feel sleepy at all, and stayed awake until about 6 AM, mainly playing computer games. As he finally went to bed, he still felt some noticeable effects, but quickly fell asleep. After having a good 10 hours of sleep, he awoke feeling refreshed, and happy from having a nice experience with a new, interesting psychedelic. He was convinced that 4-HO-MET was a worthwhile substance, but that the setting for his first experiment was far from optimal. I am pretty sure SWIM learned a lesson or two from it, though.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	thanks for contributing, especially on this chemical which has such few reports!
	nice trip report
	Many thanks for the report.
	Good report, detailed

[willkell420]

Swim just received some of this and any updates on effects or comparisons in effects to other similar tryptamines would be nice. Peace...