High Dose MDMA Experiences.

[FuBai]

I was wondering whether people on these forums have tried very high dose MDMA experiences, how they went and what were the subsequent after effects. I ask because a friend of mine took two very high doses in one weekend, combined with similarly high doses of ketamine. In the interests of my friend I will not reveal his name, but instead re-tell the story of his first time from a first person position, as it was described to me:

Originally Posted by My Friend

I had tried ecstacy in its pill form several times before, those unknown and grubby little pills pushed in nightclubs. I had tried "Rolex" and "Twisties", not that the little logos stamped onto them are any indication of the content. I had enjoyed the ecstacy experience, but wanted to try higher doses in the hope of hallucinating, something I had wanted to do for ages, but could find no LSD or Shrooms in the area. So I asked around and got a 2 grams of MDMA crystal/powder, along with 2 grams of Ketamine. The crystals were large and coarse, and it was clear that there were very few adulterants. The person it was purchased off had previously provided some very high quality 2 C B, and was generaly reliable.

I took it home and tried grinding and insuflating about 200 mgs, but it was incredibly painful and produced little effect. I called it a night, went to bed and prepared myself for a full day on MDMA and Ket. The following morning I thought "Bugger this for a game of soldiers, i'll drop the remaining 800mgs". I wrapped it up in a rizzler skin, snipped off any excess paper and bombed the lot, washing it down with a glass of orange juice. Knowing that it would take half an hour or so to kick in, I did a few lines of Ket and settled down to watch TV, feeling gently relaxed.

It was about 35 minuites later when the world blurred and I felt everything hit me at once. The world became distant and shaky, fuzzy slighty around the edges and minor extra colourations became apparent. It was difficult to stand up, even harder to walk the dog. Everything felt strange and odd, the foliation on the walk seemed thicker and greener than ever before, and the whole walk became a treck into a rainforest. I stumbled often, but luckily no one was there to see me. Eventualy I got home, worried that the drugs had so confused me that I might have brought home the wrong dog, or be in the wrong house. Luckily neither was the case.

In that daze of confusion I decided that what I needed was some more Ket and few shots of Gin to try and calm me down. All the while I was doing the talking down technique that I had came up with to calm me down when I accidentaly insuflated 70mgs of 2 c b in one go. It involved me repeating everything I knew about MDMA in my mind, its effect on serotonin, the fact that the LD50 was still way higher than what I had taken, so there's nothing to worry about, you'll be fine. It was a way of changing my perspective from experiencer to analyst. I didn't notice the effect of the gin as it went down, it was the ket I noticed - I had wrapped up half a gram in a rizzler paper earlier, thinking I would drop that the next day but I just decided to drop that as my hands were shaking too much to deal with trying to make a smaller wrap.

After that things went down hill, the world became a light and hazy dream time, memories from my childhood surfaced, images I thought I had forgotten, that I had had no recollection of before - the rainforest I went to when I was 5 in Malaysia, the huged toothed monstrosity that used to be the entrance to Lunar Park in Syndey, another place I had visited as a child. Everything felt dry and bright and far away, hazy and soft.

As this continued I became incredibly tired and slow, it felt like an eon had passed just to shuffle the four foot from my desk to my bed. I lay down and drifted off - it was only about 1 o clock in the afternoon, a mere 5 hours scince I had woken up and I was in a deep sleep. People tried to raise me but they couldn't. I slept until 6 AM, which is a collosal length of time for me. When I got up I looked at myself in the mirror and I noticed that one of my eyes was blood shot, as if the pupil had bled into the white. It is hard to describe the comedown because it lasted so long that I only noticed it was happening when it ended, about 4 or 5 days later. It took more than a week for my eye to cease being blood shot.

I would certainly not recommend doing what my friend did, it was reckless and if he hadn't been so large in stature he may well have ended up in A&E. Has anyone else here tried a dose much higher than 500mgs of MDMA, and if so what happened, did you also get a blood shot eye that persisted for several days etc? It would be interesting to hear about any such experiences.