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Old 22-05-2007, 10:59
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Long-Term effects of Adderall

What are the long-term effects of usage? Are the long-term effects different if you ACTAULLY have ADHD/(legit problem)? SWIM is in a situation where around 80mgs a week for summer will help. If this keeps going on indefinatly, will this fuck up SWIM medically in the long run?
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Old 24-05-2007, 22:02
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

if u are perscribed addy, ur doctor wuld have sed any long term effects
if u abuse it like swim, then u culd get a lil weird but no serious problems other than possible heart things, idk tho
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

80mg a week is very little, even by therapeutic standards. If SWIY continued at 80mg per week, he wouldn't likely see any long-term side effects except for possibly decreased quality and/or amount of sleep and not eating as much, but even that would disappear eventually. The effects on people who are prescribed Adderall for ADHD are susceptible to the same problems but they are normally kept to a minimum because doses taken for ADHD generally aren't high enough to cause serious problems.

But the problem is that 80mg a week will soon not have the effect that it does now. Tolerance to amphetamines (Adderall included) builds up VERY quickly. In order to maintain the effects that SWIY gets now, he will have to increase his dosage. That is where the problems begin.

High doses of amphetamine are very stressful on your heart and cardiovascular system. It increases heart rate and blood pressure. SWIY will likely become more irritable, lose weight, and may have problems with his kidneys and liver.

If and when SWIY decides to stop taking it, he'll likely have the traditional withdrawal symptoms like depression, anxiety, poor sleep, and an overall sense of feeling like crap.

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Old 25-05-2007, 21:32
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

No the physical long term effects are not different, than those as used by a "normal" person(Iīve gotten into a cock fight wiht a doc, to whom I proposed to take some of the olanzapines and rispredales, just to get a taste of the actions of this medicine, and he replied boldly: "No I donīt need to do this, Iīm not sick), dex is very "mild" on the body, so to say as it sticks with its action to the CNS, where neurotransmitter depletion will become a problem (recreational dosage-increase) and result in no high at all, but physical sides, which are all likely (as well as the psychhological/mental) problems to subside realtively quickly without a trace.

In fact, amphetamine is such a good medicine, comparing its use and sides ratio, that I hardly understand, that itīs not sold freely at the drugist, but highly dangerous substances like acetylsalicylic acid, and acetaminophene are.
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Old 27-05-2007, 18:16
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

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In fact, amphetamine is such a good medicine, comparing its use and sides ratio, that I hardly understand, that itīs not sold freely at the drugist, but highly dangerous substances like acetylsalicylic acid, and acetaminophene are.
Was that a serious remark?
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Old 27-05-2007, 18:50
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

It has been swim's personal experience that long-term use of Adderall is very problematic for one's psychological well-being.

Swim has been prescribed Adderall XR for roughly four years. He takes it every day. The first prescribed dosage was 20 mg; since then swim has gone up to 50 mg. Swim has seen a definite increase in his social inhibitions along with a general breakdown of his social ability all together. It should be noted that swim is now also prescribed Lexapro and Klonopin in an effort to combat his social phobia and depression, which he believes to be mostly a result of his Adderall usage.

Swim is slowly learning to rebuild his psyche. He plans to be Adderall-free within a year.

Short-term use may prove to be safe for SWIcrazy. It depends a lot on the individual.

Also, swim should point out that his Adderall usage has rendered him completely tolerant to the euphoric effects of every stimulant he has since tried.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

Thanks Space... I'm sorry to hear about Swiy's side effects.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

it has been shown that chronic use during developmental stages in young people, can stunt certain growths, damage arteries (swim thinks heard that), and obviously there is a risk for weight loss of muscle and/or fat.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

most of the problems are mental,if you are not on it after cronic use swiy will probably just feel retarded for a while.swiy wont be able to do 2 digit math in your head, will probably be very impulsive and after the first 2 days you will probably notice a decreased sense of overall anxiety,like you are drained,the munchies...all of this will happen if you somehow beat the cravings...good luck with that....
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Old 10-06-2007, 21:09
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

if SWIM was taking 80mg (IR) weekly Rxed would taking breaks help with the long term side effects, i mean that by making them less possible? if so how long of a break would the community suggest if SWIM feels that the 10-20mg he takes a day does not do the same as usual and the dose should be upped. (which swim usually does not like to do)
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

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Was that a serious remark?
Did the whole post sounded, like I was kidding?

Iīm sure some migth see this as a complete underestimation of the dangers of this drug, making those staetment onyl tryinīto be as cynical as possible, but what do think about me, regardding my avatar and my earlier posts, how this statement ought to be put?


Sometime swim thinks this board is run by cops who made up a fire for all bees to fly into and burn.Swim should stop taking meth
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Old 11-06-2007, 23:23
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

It wont fuck u up medically with that amount, using amphetamines recreationally daily can cause anger problems for some people (such as SWIM, that guy is such a psycho) and depression etc. but i wouldnt worry about it
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

ive used it like once a week 4 a cupple months, as a growing teen, will this cause growth problems?
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

as a growing teen, i take it like once a week at most (and never more than 40mg every 2 hrs), will this stunt my growth?
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

the drug may lower your seizure threshhold and thus if you had a predisposition to develop something like epilepsy it may manifest itself
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

Swig was talking with his doctor, and asking about long-term effects of rx'ed adderal. The doctor said the one thing to keep on the look out for is heart problems. The constant stimulation has been shown to weaken the heart in some patients. 80mgs a week is a pretty low dose, and if it is helping you live a better life, you must look at the odds and judge for yourself. You might be cutting 5-15 years of your life if you stay on stimulants for most of your life, but if you can function better, and live a more fulfilling life because of it, Swim thinks it is worth it.

Bottom line, yes there are long term effect. There are possible cardiac effects from chronic therapeutic doses of amphetamines. I also believe there is a possibility of neurotoxicity from amphetamines even in therapeutic dosages. Take your vitamins, eat and get sleep, and decide if its worth it for you, for swig it is.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

space cadet glow, love that name. question

does swis take or smoke anyting , b/c to simply suggest and take as gospel the adderall is the cause of social complexes would not be taking into account the other variables.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

SWIM takes 140-280mg(20mg twice a day as needed) and he has no side effects and rarely has n escalated heartrate. SWIM can live with 5-15 years off but also doesnt believe he will need it to live forever but for now he can actually live because of adderall. and SWIM has not felt alive for a long time and could not believe that it was adderall that was my answer.

SWIM at first was given 120 10mgs and was somewhat afraid of taking it as said because after his cocaine days a year ago he is not a big fan of stimulants. although he gets 2mg xnax RXed s well he always says the less drugs the better but he does need to feel normal so he takes what he sees as necessary. 2nd month i was given 60 20mgs but still had like 60 10s and he started taking 20mg 2x daily and it shocked him how calm he was and felt alive and happy for the first time in a long long time.

so bottom line SWIM will take the bad with the good. ill pay the cost for being able to live better and happier.

so far the only thing SWIM sees he should worry about is cardiovascular problems. and when 20-40mg a day doesnt do what it should SWIM will take his xanax and take a week or 2 off his adderall.

another great thing is SWIM doesn't get anxious on adderall so the xanax is really only needed rarely during the day or if SWIM has insomnia which isn't so often either. so all in all its been treating him very well
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

no one knows the 'long term' effects, not you, not i, not even your hardworking doctor.

what i do know is from experience though here goes:

- youll be lazy and have more of a problem with ADDADHD then you did before you took it... i find that rather amusing, the drugs are supposed to help the problem, in the end usually dont though..

- you will feel more irritable at times, possibly all the time if you had a problem.

- tolerance, your tolerance for these types of things will go up and more is needed - hence addiction.

- you will lose alot of your abilty to genuinely feel and communicate with others especially if you get used to it. face it, its not natural, too good.

- you will fell inferior without it at most things,


and finally, SWIM dont abuse any drug any more, with the exception of alcocol and pot maybe. He has found through his years of being dumb and going to extremes, to be, well a waste of perfectly good drugs. its better now to save them and keep in MODERATION, for when that rainy day arrives youll be EXTRA glad you did,,,

oh and your high much better.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

Expect long-term effects that are similar to any stimulant or even amphetamine in specific. Adderall is a schedule II drug because it is both psychologically and physically addictive. To keep it as simple as possible, all the positive effect you get from Adderall are negated in the long term if you cease dosage.

If it isn't a regular thing SWIY doesn't need to worry about anything, but if SWIY binges on it he'll feel tired, irritable, unmotivated, depressed, etc. when not on it. Moderation is the key. If SWIY is having negative long-term effects from Adderall chances are his dosage isn't correct, either too high or too often. That doesn't mean there aren't any physical dangers from taking Adderall, though. Because it is a stimulant it is putting physical strain on your cardiovascular system. Depending on your health this can be very unhealthy or barely affect you at all. Just keep in mind it is possible to take enough to rupture your heart in a single dose from mere physical strain, so be careful.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

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Expect long-term effects that are similar to any stimulant or even amphetamine in specific. Adderall is a schedule II drug because it is both psychologically and physically addictive.
amphetamine is physically addictive? i thought it was all psychological. i guess it dosent matter its addictive no matter how you look at it.
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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

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amphetamine is physically addictive? i thought it was all psychological. i guess it dosent matter its addictive no matter how you look at it.
It's a pretty fine line, but from the resources I have read online it seems to be recognized as physically addictive. The reason I say its a fine line is because the physical symptoms could be an issue of psychological dependence manifesting itself physically in a mind over matter sense. I do know for a fact though if you take Adderall for say a week without ever using it, and use a fair amount, you will experience physical withdrawal symptoms. The issue of if those symptoms are simply psychological or physical really can be open to interpretation based on how you would define the two. To me, if a drug is psychologicaly addictive enough to make me feel tired, unmotivated, depressed, irritable, etc. when I stop taking it, I don't see how that wouldn't be a physical addiction. The fact that amphetamines give you an extra boost is enough to make one feel like crap after they stop taking them. Its not physically addictive in the sense that if you just stop taking it you'll drop dead, but its physically addictive enough that if you abruptly stop taking it you'll endure some pretty crappy withdrawral symptoms that include more than just psychological issues like depression. Whereas benzos can cause siezures and other serious physical conditions from an abrupt stop in dosing, I haven't heard of Adderall causing problems like that. Still, if one takes enough Adderall they can become dependent on it just to perform literal physical activity.

But yeah, as you said, however you look at the addiction potential it is quite high (isn't schedule II for fun). Regardless of what class of addiction it is capable of causing I can guarantee that one who abruptly stops taking it will get almost an opposite Adderall effect. Because the drug isn't in your system you won't have that "boost" that you've become acustomed to and that can only mean that you'll be almost putting yourself at a disadvantage by stopping dosing, especially for those who use Adderall to function day to day.

Just to be clear though some recreational use here or there won't really have any lasting physical symptoms. What I'm talking about is those of us who either have a prescription they're supposed to take everyday or those who obtain it through other means and binge.

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Re: Long-Term effects of Adderall

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It's a pretty fine line, but from the resources I have read online it seems to be recognized as physically addictive. The reason I say its a fine line is because the physical symptoms could be an issue of psychological dependence manifesting itself physically in a mind over matter sense. I do know for a fact though if you take Adderall for say a week without ever using it, and use a fair amount, you will experience physical withdrawal symptoms. The issue of if those symptoms are simply psychological or physical really can be open to interpretation based on how you would define the two. To me, if a drug is psychologicaly addictive enough to make me feel tired, unmotivated, depressed, irritable, etc. when I stop taking it, I don't see how that wouldn't be a physical addiction. The fact that amphetamines give you an extra boost is enough to make one feel like crap after they stop taking them. Its not physically addictive in the sense that if you just stop taking it you'll drop dead, but its physically addictive enough that if you abruptly stop taking it you'll endure some pretty crappy withdrawral symptoms that include more than just psychological issues like depression. Whereas benzos can cause siezures and other serious physical conditions from an abrupt stop in dosing, I haven't heard of Adderall causing problems like that. Still, if one takes enough Adderall they can become dependent on it just to perform literal physical activity.

But yeah, as you said, however you look at the addiction potential it is quite high (isn't schedule II for fun). Regardless of what class of addiction it is capable of causing I can guarantee that one who abruptly stops taking it will get almost an opposite Adderall effect. Because the drug isn't in your system you won't have that "boost" that you've become acustomed to and that can only mean that you'll be almost putting yourself at a disadvantage by stopping dosing, especially for those who use Adderall to function day to day.

Just to be clear though some recreational use here or there won't really have any lasting physical symptoms. What I'm talking about is those of us who either have a prescription they're supposed to take everyday or those who obtain it through other means and binge.
swim has a scrips for 2x 20mg xr per day and hasnt taken it in over a month and is now starting to have anxiety. im almost sure its from stopping my adderall after 2+ years of daily use. swim is going to talk to his doc about some sort of beno to help with this. his mental activity is back up but his concentration is 10x worse than before he ever herd of adderall.

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