So, before anyone jumps allover swim for using his garbage chemicals, please note that he has never once gotten any sort of negative effects from dosing on Bzp alone.. nothing, nada. got it? no headaches, no nausea, no feeling like a zombie for 3 days et all, etc..etc... plus he even gets some nice stimulation with it to boot.. plus its dirt cheap. Ok so some high grades of dirt may surpass it's cost, but now you can see why swim continutes to take bzp once every week or so.
Now with that out of the way, swims regular dose of bzp is 350mg (yes with no ill effects whatsoever..ever.. sorry i dunno why I feel this is so privy to attacks, im just stating that if something made him feel like crap, he wouldn't take it, and sure as hell wouldn't pay for it... got it?)
ok nooow.
Swims first time trying tfmpp and mcpp came on the same night. The ratios in the topic were mixed & taken alltogether in some carbonated soda pop.
t+45 min. Bzp effects feel very subdued, and nausea?!@ for the first time is ever experienced with the piperazine family. So swim puked.. and puked.. and puked some more. But afterwards swim felt absofrigginlutely amazing. The synergy of these 3 substances seems like a fluke rather than a perfectly dosed combo, but swim will take it. Swim only read 1 experience of the 3 pipes combined and took his dosages from there so he feels very greatful things worked out....
t+90 min. Still glowing. The tfmpp has definetly added a lot to the experience, especially in the tactile sense. I'm sorry to say this, and really don't care if I get flamed.. but swim compares this to MDMA. In the 75 mg level, literally "JUST" before empathy / euphoria rushes in. Swim now sees how others could hate this feeling, but honestly swim loves that feeling just before losing all empathy to X. So this is a great experience for him.
t+4 hours. Previous hours spent watching TV in what can only be described as a "non-aggitated stimulating borderline euphoric wave" and altho effects have subsided, and afterglow is so nice he could cry. Now he is tempted to re-dose on the mcpp alone @ 25 mg, but will hold off.
So all in all, swim will definetly repeat the experience but will be cautious about straying from above dosages as he doesn't wanna temp fate.
Also swim will note that the visual/audio aspect to the experience was not effected profoundly except when outside (in bitter cold temperatures) smoking. He actually started to experience more psychadelia (tree branches morphing, smaller branches swaying/breathing). Who knows if this was just the nicotine tho.. (or the pot.. oh did he leave that part out? :P) ok enough babbling...in closing: good luck with all of swiy's future endeavours, and sometimes a little hard-headedness can be a good thing. Not one snowflake is exactly alike, and neither is anyones brain chemistry. There seems to be some individuals who get consistantly above average results with substances the majority feels very differently about. So thanks to all who in their posts based their reccommendations on using / not using these chems on their own use, and not due to someothers bad experiences that seem to take all the heat. And not to mention if someone of high status in the community (starts with the letter M) has a bad experience with it. Many individuals swim talks to base their opinin of the drug by that 1 said erowid report. Research chemicals for a reason people.. not "matter of fact" chemicals. And no swim is not secretly a vendor trying to boost sales... or is he?.. no of course he is not, how could you even think that.
*** Edit : ok so who does fate think he/she is to think a momentary lapse of reason would stay put inside swims stubborn mind. Yes the 25mg mcpp was dosed and a definite shift from comedown back into 2nd/almost 1st gear is felt. The stimulation is the only thing not brought back to near full force, but honestly at this point , thats a welcome shift. ***
And this is in no way swims "good to go seal of approval yakity yak". Guess all swim wants to say is that how can anyone say any chemical must abide by the same laws when exposed to different bodily chemistry.. back onto the "research".. ok or not. You get my point. Any thoughts of partaking in any chemical dubbed research or not, and thinking immunity has been gained due to previous jabber, and good tidings by others, will surely result in disappointment, as it did for swim many a times. And furthermore trying to have piperazines discluded as research chemicals (especially regarding all the controversy surrounding them) sounds like one HELL of an oxymoron. Ewww. 5-meo-amt... gives me the runs... ok that ones off the list... doeasn't make much sense does it? If there's demand for it, people will buy it. I bet if I started up a company buying peoples feces and selling it back to them enriched with "co-enzyme q12 to 33rd power" they would pay good money and exorbitant shipping to get that "shit" back. Good night.. sorry, swim didn't mean anything personal towards anyone, in any manner. Just something he almost got off his chest soon after discovering the benefits of BZP in his body, nobody else's.
13-02-2007, 02:59
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