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Old 18-07-2006, 11:47
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Swim decided to try this substance so he took 100 mg ( 40 drops ). No effects at all in the first 30 minutes so he decided to take 50 mg more. After one hour: a bit of stimulation and daze, but not really intense, swim smokes a lot of cigarettes, difficult to concentrate on something.

But the real effects has come after about (dont remember exactly ) 3 hours or more! weird!

Stimulation is gone and Swim now is feeling soooo relaxed and good, sweet and mellow, every single member of his body is feeling good. The heart is beating at 60 per minute (when it normally beats at 80/90 ) and breathe is slower than normal. He went to bed, stay awake lying for about one hour feeling good and relaxed, then he fall asleep.

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A spot on description of the effects.
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Swim just got Tramadol drops for a back pain and he was thinking about using the Tramadol to get a high, but after reading all these reports swim is confused. Looks like not everyone had a nice high similar to opiates from this substance.

Maybe he should start with 100mg and see what happens?
Read my post directly above yours if you didn't yet.

Swim thought that 150mg would be a good starting point to see if you feel the effects or not. You can then either have fun straight from there or up the dose more. If you space it out then the effect still isn't as strong as when it hits you all at once.


BajEdit: Ah, just saw your above post. Nice man. Lucky for swiy that it worked well!
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Old 22-07-2006, 10:39
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Tramadol First Experience

Dosage: (T+ 0:00) - 2 pills (100mg total)
(T+ 0:45) - 1 pill (50mg)
(T+ 1:00) - 1 pill (50mg)

INTRODUCTORY NOTES

To begin with, SWIM's tramadol experience is a little odd for the following reason:

About a week ago, SWIM's girlfriend overdosed on tramadol. She took 20+ pills while SWIM was out of town visiting friends (she had to work all weekend). SWIM drove out to his friend's house and got a call a day later from his frantic girlfriend saying that the night before she had taken 20 tramadol and then some, but she couldn't remember the exact number. She also explained that she had done this the night before and now could not hold anything down, not even water. She also said she did not want to go to the hospital because she was afraid of them calling her parents. SWIM informed her that if she did not go, she might not live and that she needed medical attention immediately. SWIM's girlfriend told SWIM she would and went to the hospital following her shift at work (which SWIM told her she should not have stayed for). When she got to the hospital she was more dehydrated than they had seen anyone in a long time. They gave her a couple of bags of saline, ran some bloodwork and sent her home. She is fine now, luckily the tramadol contained no acetaminophen (as some types of tramadol pills do, apparently) so the doctors think her liver will be ok, which is one of the things SWIM was worried about. SWIM and her had a conversation about many things the next night including attempted suicides, opiates, etc. At the end of the conversation in which SWIM asked how it felt, she said "Why don't you tell me?" She then presented SWIM with a bag of 10 tramadol.

On to the experience:

EXPERIENTIAL NOTES

SWIM was off work on Friday, and saw a good opportunity try out the tramadol. SWIM took the dosage noted above until the 200mg goal was reached as that is what others on this forum had said had produced the "ceiling" effect.

(SWIM would also like to note that he has very limited exposure to opiates (synthetic or not) and eating pulverized dried poppy seed pods has been the extent of his experience and he has done that only twice.)

T+0:45 - SWIM started to feel lightheaded and noticed an extremely subtle but very huge visual perceptual change. Everything started to look extermely clear. Colours were extremely distinct. SWIM is trance DJ and noticed music was starting to sound excellent; so SWIM decided to spin out a set and noticed that the mixing was extremely easy because the beats were so distinct. SWIM has noticed this same effect on adderall. SWIM's body is also starting to tingle SWIM is also chain smoking. SWIM will take another pill at T+1:00.

T+1:30 - SWIM is noticing a general euphoria, the same euphoria he experienced with the poppies. SWIM is easily distracted at this point and his body temperature feels higher than normal. SWIM's head is very cloudy and the world appears as if it's made of water. Everything is so smooth and serene. SWIM feels that driving a car would be a bad idea at this point. SWIM also feels he could "do stuff" right now. That is, he could clean his house right now if he wanted to. SWIM is buzzing hard. SWIM also notes that he will probably puke sooner or later because he has always puked when on opiates, however, SWIM very much enjoys puking on opiates (as odd as that sounds).

T+2:00 - It's very hard to type now. SWIM really just wants to chill, but for some reason cannot stop reading posts on DF. SWIM is going to go outside and smoke a cigarette and then perhaps make some food to settle his stomach. SWIM still feels quite euphoric as well as hot. The pinch is definately evident in the shoulders and the itching is there as well. SWIM is nodding hard.

T+3:00 - SWIM feels like his temperature has evened out. SWIM chose not to make the food, but is feeling like that would be appropriate since he hasn't eaten all day. Otherwise everything is good. The euphoria has settled to a nice rolling buzz. SWIM would like to take some GHB, but realizes that one should not mix two CNS depressants.... SWIM's energy has also picked up a bit.

T+4:00 - Effects have plateaued and SWIM is going to bed, body temperature is definately decreasing. SWIM takes this opportunity to eat and feels remarkably better. SWIM also calls his girlfriend and talks with her for three hours. It's been a nice night overall. Oddly enough, SWIM also noted that he had no trouble sleeping when he tried to fall asleep after reading for a bit; SWIM also did not puke.

-------- Le matin ----------

All in all the next morning SWIM feels fine. SWIM still feels like his body buzz is still there, and notes that in the past opiates have lasted WELL into the next day. SWIM also understands, however, that he has pretty well run the cycle of the substance down pretty well. SWIM ingested the pills over a one hour period commencing at 8:00pm and finally went to sleep at 5:15am; SWIM woke the next morning at 11:00am. SWIM notes a slight headache and normal heart rate, pulse and blood pressure.

CONCLUSION AND FINAL QUALITATIVE OBSERVATIONS

SWIM, overall, enjoyed the experience. In contrast to poppies it was more intense and was more similar in feeling to what SWIM assumed an "opiate" would feel like. The moment at the 2 hour mark was particularity intense when SWIM was sweating everything seemed to blur and he couldn't stop nodding. SWIM is unsure if he'd do 200mg a second time. He seems to think 100mg might be more a normal dose for him. SWIM also seemed to note a particular empathy that came along with the euphoria; something that had not been present previously in his poppy experiences. SWIM equates this to a low dose of MDMA, in fact much of what he felt, had he not known anything about opiates, could have been said to be very similar to a low (50 - 60mg for SWIM) dose of MDMA and again SWIM did not experience these other things with poppies (perhaps because he was too busy puking).

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Good experience report, the timeline is helpful. Thanks for sharing.

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Old 24-07-2006, 02:33
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Ok, my friend swim is having another tramadol experience so I thought I would share it with you guys as he keeps me informed of it.


Swim ingested 150mg of Tramadol a few hours ago. He didn't notice it hitting but as he had guest over he proceeded to ingest one extra strong margarita and one bottle of beer. He then began to feel a very euphoric drunken feeling spread over him as he finished his meal. He really was/is craving a cigarette at the moment though he is trying to quit so he doesn't have any with him. He feels like partying though.

After the meal swim then forgot about the alcohol he ingested and took another 50mg pill, bringing his total to 200mg. The fourth pill was ingested approximately two and a half hours after the first ones. Now, about thirty minutes later, swim is feeling really great, and thinks this experience even beats his last one, which Bajeda posted on the other page. He feels very uplifted and energetic, though a bit hot and dehydrated so he is trying to drink a good amount of water.

Bajeda will post more if anything else interesting happens to swim - such as the other pill hitting and maybe raising the experience or if he manages to get tobacco or ganj - but he is wondering if there is a high level of danger in this experiment. He is a bit worried for his friend swim, though not especially paranoid that anything especially bad will happen. Swim knows the dangers of mixing alcohol and prescription medicine, but in the case of 200 mg of tramadol and the equivalent of two shots of tequila and one beer is there much danger?
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Old 24-07-2006, 02:40
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I wouldn't worry about it, but would probably call it quits on drinking, the trams, or both. Some ganj would probably be nice, but may sedate you. SWIM gets VERY HEAVILY sedated on trams, no matter what. But especially after smoking. Usually about 5-6 hours after ingestion.
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Old 24-07-2006, 02:44
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I wouldn't worry about it, but would probably call it quits on drinking, the trams, or both. Some ganj would probably be nice, but may sedate you. SWIM gets VERY HEAVILY sedated on trams, no matter what. But especially after smoking. Usually about 5-6 hours after ingestion.
Swim is thinking about upping later on when it wears off a bit more, possibly taking another 50mg of Tramadol or maybe (just maybe) more in another 3 hours or so when he is approaching baseline.

Would swiy recommend smoking before or after upping the dose?
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my friend, swim, has tried tremadol about 10 times just because it was available for free to him. swim was not impressed at all by the effect of tremadol and was very disapointed. he took 150 mg orally and only got a mild relaxed tingly feeling that didnt last long and went away as soon as he got up and did somethin. swim wants to kno of snorting tremadol is more affective??

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my friend, swim, has tried tremadol about 10 times just because it was available for free to him. swim was not impressed at all by the effect of tremadol and was very disapointed. he took 150 mg orally and only got a mild relaxed tingly feeling that didnt last long and went away as soon as he got up and did somethin. swim wants to kno of snorting tremadol is more affective??

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Snorting tramadol doesn't work at all really. Swim doesn't know why, but it produces practically zero effects.

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Ok, my friend swim is having another tramadol experience so I thought I would share it with you guys as he keeps me informed of it.


Swim ingested 150mg of Tramadol a few hours ago. He didn't notice it hitting but as he had guest over he proceeded to ingest one extra strong margarita and one bottle of beer. He then began to feel a very euphoric drunken feeling spread over him as he finished his meal. He really was/is craving a cigarette at the moment though he is trying to quit so he doesn't have any with him. He feels like partying though.

After the meal swim then forgot about the alcohol he ingested and took another 50mg pill, bringing his total to 200mg. The fourth pill was ingested approximately two and a half hours after the first ones. Now, about thirty minutes later, swim is feeling really great, and thinks this experience even beats his last one, which Bajeda posted on the other page. He feels very uplifted and energetic, though a bit hot and dehydrated so he is trying to drink a good amount of water.

Bajeda will post more if anything else interesting happens to swim - such as the other pill hitting and maybe raising the experience or if he manages to get tobacco or ganj - but he is wondering if there is a high level of danger in this experiment. He is a bit worried for his friend swim, though not especially paranoid that anything especially bad will happen.
Swim has enjoyed his past two experiences with tramadol (one is posted on the other page) but he has to say this one is the best! Mixing it with a bit of alcohol has REALLY boosted the effects. Swim feels as though he is in a daze, and feels euphoria enveloping his body. Very nice.

The pill swim took earlier is hitting now and the effects are at full force. So 200mg Tramadol + 3 shots of alcohol = Bliss. Swim is very pleased at the results so far and can't wait to add ganja to the mixture.



BajEdit: Update! Wow! This is crazy. Swim never thought Tramadol could be this intense. Swim is at a full 250 mg dose of Tramadol right now along with the alcohol and he is tweakin! He is listening to hardcore techno right now and while his body is just swaying a bit his mind is going insane on full overdrive. His heart is pounding and he is full of energy! He is about to go cruising and have a cig so he will let Bajeda know how the nicotine feels in this situation. Overall this is a very intense experience that swim never would have thought possible based off of his other Tramadol only experiences.



Day After Update

Ok, so shortly after Bajeda wrote the above comments for swim, swim headed out with a friend armed with a bottle filled with four shots of tequila and a new pack of cigarettes. Shortly after getting into the car swim lit the first cigarette in three days. It was an amazing feeling mixing tobacco with the alcohol/tramadol experience. Swim's jitters and anxiety fell right away and he became much more relaxed. Unfortunately it started him chain smoking the whole night which wasn't especially healthy, but the first few cigarettes were worth it.

Swim was feeling even higher than before when he got to his friend's place. They watched Eddie Murphy - Delerious and laughed their asses off the whole time. Swim felt almost like he was on adderall, or maybe opium, or maybe both. He felt very giddy and talkative and hyper but also was extremely euphoric and slightly dazed. It was a very good feeling.

Hmmm, thinking back, swim actually feels it was almost more like a low dose MDMA roll. The music wasn't very much better, but the euphoric and energetic effects were quite similar, though at a much lower level than MDMA. On the whole it was a very great night for swim.

The only trouble came when swim was about ready to leave to head home as he had work early in the morning. Swim's stomach started aching. He said bye and started driving home. As he got on the highway his stomach was really aching, more towards the upper part rather than the lower (so it may not have been the stomach exactly). When he got into the house it was unbearable. He quickly popped a Pepcid and hopped in bed. He lay there for a while belching up gas and letting the pepcid take effect. Within 10 minutes swim felt fine and fell quickly into sweet deep sleep.

Another interesting effect swim noticed was his dreams. Even before he fell asleep he was having quite pleasant daydreams, and from what he remembers of his dreams that night they were more active than usually and were on the whole more happy and fun and a bit less surreal than usual.


Swim got up to get ready for work after only 5 and a half hours of sleep. He was a bit groggy and quickly ate breakfast (though not much, he wasn't very hungry) before heading off for work. By the time he got to work though he felt GREAT! He felt even better than when he was feeling the effects of the alcohol and tramadol the night before! He was full of energy and enthusiasm and was quite animated for so early on a Monday morning. He worked hard the entire day without complaint and only really felt a bit tired when he was finally heading home, though when he got back he started perking up again. On the whole swim feels pretty darn good, and thinks the effects he felt the next day were alone worth taking the tramadol/alcohol combo the night before!


So in conclusion, swim had a very good experience mixing tramadol with alcohol, way better than expected. Some notes for concern are the risks involved with mixing alcohol and tramadol together and the stomach ache swim suffered from after ingesting more alcohol.

For anyone wishing to try this combination swim would recommend starting with 150mg of Tramadol and the equivalent of two shots of alcohol. The alcohol should be taken after the Tramdol settles in so swiy can gauge the effects. Swim felt best after ingesting a total of 200mg of Tramadol and the equivalent of 3 shots of alcohol. The peak was about an hour after the last drink of alcohol (they were all in sucession) when the last 50mg Tramadol swim took was kicking in (about 2-4 hours after taking the first ones swim thinks, though isn't sure). After ingesting further alcohol swim felt that he got too jittery and hyper and felt like he had taken speed or something, which wasn't too pleasant, especially when he wanted to sit down and watch something. Nicotine helped with those effects though. Plus after ingesting more alcohol swim noticed the stomach problem, so it is probably related given the time lapse between the two drinking session.

Swim would like to wish anyone who is going to try this luck, and asks if they would post their experience here if possible so others can find out the possible recreational uses for this combination. Be safe!

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Old 24-07-2006, 11:43
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Snorting tramadol is not evry effective as it is very water insoluble therefore does not pass through the mucus membrane in the nasal passage. It's a much better idea to simply eat the tablets of tramadol. Oral route with opiates is general the best after injection.

Bajeda, just make sure SWIY is weary of using alchohol all the time with differant substances, combining depressants particularly those that cause Respiretory depression can be dangerous. As i mentioned before Polypharmacy can be very fun until you stop breathing or have a heart attack. Be careful with this.

Apart from that great report.
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Old 25-07-2006, 02:29
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SWIM tried tramadol twice in liquid form. It was a nice expierence and SWIM will do it again
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SWIM tried tramadol twice in liquid form. It was a nice expierence and SWIM will do it again
Could you give a more specific trip report DUMB please.

Many people have varying experiences on Tramadol and it would be good to get another trip report to compare.
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The first time SWIM had about 110ml of it and just spent the duration of the trip walking around outside so content and sedated while writing poetry on a scrap piece of paper. Mostly SWIM just felt a nice warm feeling all over but it was a lot nicer and stronger than SWIM's expierence with codiene and it last much longer. It was enjoyable. There was one point where SWIM had to sit down outside and just stare at the sky. SWIM couldn't move much and felt like he was almost glued to the ground. But for the few hours it lasted SWIM enjoyed it. Maybe it got a little stranger for about ten minutes at the main peak of it all. There was bodyrushes and numbness (that was nice) all over. Also SWIM came close to nodding at points and with eyes closed had some kind of visuals but not strong one's but SWIM's perception was defiantly altered

The second time, well SWIM had about 200ml of it. While a close friend had about the same. SWIM's friend was getting her tatoo done and she said she never felt a thing throughout it except the urge to fall asleep lol.

For SWIM this trip was much stronger than before and SWIM was in much more company with quite a few friends around drinking and a few others using Tramadol at the same time. It was easy and hard to chat if you get what I mean. It was easy as everyone (especially SWIM and SWIM's friend) were chatting with a nice flow but from time to time after a sentence it was like SWIM would just space out for a few moments. And think to himself how he was enjoying it and then get distracted by closing SWIM's eyes. This time the duration was longer and obviously much more intense but there was no rough points at any stage. It was defiantly a different type of buzz with many others around. Plus SWIM this time around was smoking a lot more weed (Mainly due to the amount of people around him). SWIM did kind of nod off a bit once in the bathroom having gone there (For SWIM it's a nice place to go on drugs for some reason) and SWIM ended up cuddling into the three dogs that were in there at the point.

Tramadol is defiantly up there with SWIM's nicest expierences on drugs and SWIM will be trying it again ASAP.

Anyway thats all SWIM can think of for now. SWIM is quite stoned. Hope this little bit of extra detail helped
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swim tried tramadol again and again lately and he find the best way to use it is to take not too high dosages (not more than 200 mg) and mix it with some alcohol, but note: do not drink much when you are on tramadol, just few beers (depending on your alcohol tolerance) or you will feel sick as hell.

swim never experienced a strong high like the one D.U.M.B described.

also, swim thinks tramadol is helping against alcohl's down.
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Here is a summary of SWIM's Tramadol experiences.

in SWIM's country tramadol was available OTC, as it is widely known, but about some weeks ago, he noticed that pharms refuse to sell it OTC, and after investigation he found that it is not OTC anymore.

It is not very important for SWIM cause he has a friend in a pharmacy, so he has access to all drugs available to pharmacies.

when he first tries tramadol he used a low dose of 50mg to be safe. but he feels some nausea after few hours. but he tried 100mg next day and he was puking the whole day.

as there is two kind of tramadol available here: 1.made by locals 2.imported drugs. He didn't know anything about the imported brands. so he used the local brand in his first times. for some reason the local brands make him puke but the imported ones not.

anyway, after that bad experience, he used small doses of tramadol for few days, that somewhat helped his body to get used to them.

he usually take 100mg for a nice day, most of the time with his friend. tramadol makes him somewhat more kind and caring. and he likes to hug every girl he sees on street

and SWIM thinks it is the effects of serotonin. and he is sure tramadol is not only an opiate but a stimulant too. as it is really hard too get nice sleep (deep sleep) while high.

SWIM's best dose is 100mg (first day). and by "first day" he means if he takes another dose next day he may need 150mg to feel like 100mg in first day, and he found the tramadol tolerance to build up very quickly, he easily reach 300mg in a week.

He also experienced withdrawals after only 10 days of everyday dosing. and it was really bad , he don't really remember much about those 10 days, but he remembers alot about those 2 withdrawal days.
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Old 22-08-2006, 15:01
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Could you expand on those two days? It'd be interesting to see if it was more closely related to opiate withdrawal or SSRI withdrawal...
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well, those two days started when SWIM didn't expect any withdrawal (as he thinks it needs at least 2 weeks for a physical addiction).

exactly 26 hours after not taking Tramadol,

9:00 PM - final day:
SWIM feels very hot and he feels a general bad feeling. the bad feeling stays until he sleeps after taking 400mg ibuprofen. but SWIM feels very hot for like 1 hour. but he still sweets night.

1st withdrawal day:
when SWIM wokes up he feels a very strange feeling like he is living it a different age. SWIM means he thinks, the condition and events of those current days does not load into memory and he feels completely different comparing to other days.
he also feels a little bit depressed. which becomes more intense at afternoon, which actually made him cry for no reason.
he had to take shower every few hours cause he sweets alot.
he also had pain in his legs throughout the day, but he feels no need for a painkiller. SWIM also remembers very strange and bad dreams.
but the worst thing was that he feels very bad, he feels very sick. he drinked a lot of water.


2nd withdrawal day:
SWIM feels a lot better but still sweating a lot, and still feels pain in his legs. and that bad feeling remains, and he feels better every hour.
but the sweeting remains for another 3 days.


overall, SWIM thinks that was a bad experience.

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-took 50 drops of tramadol...it did nothing at all....
i'm quite addicted to opiates.... i smoke about 2 g. of h everyday.

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SWIM has HEARD that, for some people (you know how tramadol is, varies pretty greatly from person to person), that a Tramadol high is pretty similar to a Heroin high. SWIM wouldn't know, as he has never had the pleasure of trying Heroin. He says Tramadol makes him feel reeeeeal nice, despite the fact that it is impossible for him to stay awake after 6 hours.

Not sure how accurate this tram~heroin thing is, though. Just something SWIM has read.
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SWIM has HEARD that, for some people (you know how tramadol is, varies pretty greatly from person to person), that a Tramadol high is pretty similar to a Heroin high.
for SWIM, it is similar but yet different.

SWIM feels nice and he feels everything is good, and some feelings resembles those of heroin. (as SWIM has been tried both)

but SWIM also feels a little bit CNS stimulation and he can't sleep deeply (if he can sleep). But as far as he knows the CNS-stimulation part is not experienced by many others.

another difference in SWIM's opinion, is that he can use a lot of Heroin and do not feal nauseous, but using more that 200mg tramadol makes him vomit.

and Heroin is a much better pain-killer in SWIM's opinion. He can cut his hand easily and feel nothing at all, but on tramadol it is impossible.

as SWIY said it is vary greatly from person to person, so all SWIM said is ISwimO.
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As I noticed there were always two groups, the ones who thought tramadol gives you a pleasant high and the other who didn't agree with tramadol having any recreational value.

SWIM always was part of the last half, tried various doses up to 400mg. All SWIM felt was the upper component, couldn't sleep, felt a little energetic and didn't have appetite.

SWIM got sometimes a really bad backpain so he always has some tramadol at home, because it really helps with that. (Probably because that's what it's made for, relieving pain )

Now some evening SWIM got a real bad backpain, which was so bad he couldn't even sit straight up, so he took 150mg tramadol. As usual after some time the pain was completely gone, so SWIM wanted to go to bed. Problem was that he couldn't fall asleep because he almost felt like he took a small line of speed.
Then SWIM realized that he had some nitrazepam lying around. So he thought 10mg of nitrazepam would help him fall asleep. SWIM read somewhere that you shoudn't combine opiates with benzodiazepines so he hesitated for quite a while, but in the end the wish for sleep won over the health issues and SWIM took the nitrazepam.

Now then happened something incredible. Taking these pills alone hadn't any effect on SWIM, but together they produced a euphoria higher than SWIM got from codeine or DHC. SWIM still couldn't fall asleep but felt like being on a quite strong opiate.
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CNS depressants potentiate each other, that's why SWIY might have felt a lot more euphoria, but that's also the reason it's so dangerous to combine CNS depressants, because they potentiate each other alot, also the negative side effects, like respiratory depression.
Though on this field, Tramadol is really a wierd one, which SWIM still doesn't understand, more a stimulant than a depressant.

For SWIM, Tramadol feels like how benzo's should feel for him(SWIM doesn't seem to get the desired effects of it), completely anxiety and stress free, very relaxed and friendly, and much more social.
The only difference is the long duration of the effects(around 8 hours for SWIM), and the light stimulation, something like a few cups of coffee, not any noticable stimulation, but just a "fresh" feeling, like he had a very good night of sleep.
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CNS depressants potentiate each other, that's why SWIY might have felt a lot more euphoria, but that's also the reason it's so dangerous to combine CNS depressants, because they potentiate each other alot, also the negative side effects, like respiratory depression.
Though on this field, Tramadol is really a wierd one, which SWIM still doesn't understand, more a stimulant than a depressant.
That's exactly why SWIM hesitated, very bad thing usually happen when you mix CNS depressants. The only reason SWIM did it after all is that tramadol doesn't seem to be any depressant. As you said tramadol seem to be quite stimulating and SWIM felt the other day really like he had some small amount of speed. With all the usual effects including more stimulating respiratory than depressing it.

SWIM did really a lot of thinking before he mixed those because SWIM is usually very responsible concerning the use of drugs. Just wanted to know you that SWIM isn't the dumbn kind of user who pops every pill he finds.

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Re: Tramadol experiences

SWIM can't really get much in the way of an opioid buzz out of these things, though he is fairly opioid-tolerant and hasn't taken more than about 250mg at a time.

However SWIM did once get stuck for almost two days with no prospect of getting other opiates at all, bar a few left over 150mg slow release trams that he had in his bag but had thought he'd probably never take. SWIM was pretty scared of what was coming next as his habit was pretty big at the time, but was delighted by how much the tramadol eased the rattle. Still didn't feel great but from previous experience he deserved to feel much, much worse.

So if you're one of those who can't get a euphoric hit from these things, they may still be useful to have on standby for emergencies.
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Swim awaits his 100mg tramadol's in the mail and will report back with experiences (hopefully positive)

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