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Old 22-02-2012, 02:52
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

My lady friend was given a 10gram bag of pentedrone from a very reliable source.
First time she started taking it with 5mg allergy test in mouthe and spat out.
An hour later bombed 50mg slight effects within 45min. relaxed and mildly euphoric lasting only for 60 mins.
Bombed 100mg feeling effects within 30mins of dose lasting mild effects for 90 mins .
Bombed 200mg feeling effects within 20mins .
effects still only mild-medium euphoric relaxed and talkative 120mins.
Bombed 250mg only mild -medium effects as above .
The euphoric relaxed feelings on doses 200mg-250mg last only 120mins approx.
Could not get to sleep all nite felt wide awake and talkative after initial euphoric relaxed feelings.
Body weight 58kg fortnightly rec user.
Substance tastes and smells unpleasant.
Seems in our opinion that this substance is not good value for the effects obtained.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:13
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

SWIM ordered a 0.5 g packet of "Raving dragon voodoo dust", and the manufacture told SWIM that it is 100% pentedrone.

SWIM bumped a very small amount, perhaps a few mg, and got quite the energetic and euphoric high for about an hour and a half, and then was back to about baseline. Mouth was quite numb from a numby too. A surprisingly close experience to cocaine overall, but perhaps more of a coke/speed feeling since SWIM wasn't yacked, rather SWIM was able to concentrate on and complete tasks like when on adderall.

Pupils are still constricted and SWIM feels a little different, but it's pretty much over. Not much comedown, but SWIM didn't do that much and smoked some cannabis.

More extensive experiments to come tomorrow since it'll be the weekend.
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Old 04-03-2012, 16:54
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

SWIM had a great weekend using this. Yesterday SWIM was high on it for the entire day, redosing about once an hour with tiny bumps of this substance. When SWIM decided he'd done enough work, SWIM took some kratom and went to sleep 4 hours later, and slept for over 10 hours. No signs of a comedown at all today, which is quite surprising to SWIM.

The experience when using this is very much like amphetamine, except it only lasts 1-2 hours per dose which is REALLY nice. SWIM can be high on this upper all day and sleep at night. There's also more euphoria and rush than straight up amphetamine, and it comes back with each dose even well into a "binge".

Of course, SWIM is not going to use this everyday since it is clearly addictive as all heck, like almost all other uppers.

SWIM would also like to note that less than half of a 0.5g bag was used all weekend, even with sharing some of it.

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Old 11-03-2012, 03:47
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

SWIM ended up having to flush their pentedrone down the toilet. This stuff is quite addictive not surprisingly. SWIM sensed the warning signs since they've had experience with nicotine addiction, and SWIM knows it's just not worth the trouble.
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Old 19-03-2012, 14:31
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

How would SWIY compare pentedrone to other a-PVP or Ethylphenidate. Does it leave your cats clearheaded and able to work or is it more suitable for partying. What do you guys think? Is it more like 4-mec or more like a-PVP?
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Old 07-04-2012, 18:42
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

vendor calls pentedrone this: 2-(methylamino)-1-phenyl-1-pentanone, monohydrochloride
anyway -
rats been insufflating it for about 14 hours now. its a mellow thing. barely noticeable really. if the rats had some sleep and a month of rehab then it might sparkle their horse more.
this stuff would be for a fresh brain is what the astronomers think.

the rats report:
pupils arent even affected really.
chem is white crystally/fluffy with rocks here and there.
burn feels sharp and quick going up the nose.
numbing around the teeth is neat though.
first started with 15mg bumps. then went quickly to 150mg rails.
rats report some internal organ irritation. the stuff probably damages the insides pretty good if it hurts this quick. rats body has been chem free for a week too. so, no other reasons for the pain.
overall - its a light and relaxing stim with not much excitement.

a-SalviaLover - it is the astronomer's opinion that A-PVP has a heavier presence than this pentedrone stuff. Pentedrone is probably safer on the cardiovascular system, though. Where Pentedrone might be harder on the internal organs. The astronomer could work on pentedrone without much trouble - but would rather just have a full night's rest.

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Old 09-04-2012, 05:53
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Re: Pentedrone & other new RCs

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SWIM dreamt he went on a bit of binge with this to see what it can do, with the first dose around 6:40pm nasally, 8pm 125mg oral, 1am-6am snorted lines of various size at different times. It had SWIM feeling very alert and good even at 6am when he would be tired without it. That SWIM hasn't had negative side effects from what is probably a pretty large amount over less than 12 hours makes SWIM think this chemical isn't anymore dangerous than Mephedrone, Buphedrone, Methcathione or other ketones. While the snorted amounts were unmeasured and not kept track off, SWIM probably went through at least half a gram, maybe more. It reminds SWIM a lot of buphedrone or 3-FMC.

More clearheaded and focused feeling than mephedrone, which makes SWIM feel impaired and want to lay back with his eyes shut listening to music rather than get stuff done. With Pentedrone SWIM feels the stimulation, but doesn't feel impaired.
After this SWIM never had a desire to do it again, its not a chemical to get excited about. It will give an effect and isn't inactive, but it doesn't compare to amphetamine, proplyhexedrine or other better stimulants out there. If SWIM had things he needed to do while already tired and this was the only stimulant available, then SWIM might consider trying it again for a boost. Although it is not something SWIM would seek to do again, as the effects weren't very impressive. Since this was a very new chemical when SWIM first posted on it and could find no experience reports or information on it from others, SWIM didn't spend very much time with this one beyond what was posted about.
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Old 27-04-2012, 22:53
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

swim aint proud of it.

April 26 2012

11:00am - 10mg insufflated
11:30am - 10mg
12:10pm - 15mg
2:45pm - 20mg
4:45pm - 20mg
6:55pm - 20mg
8:40pm - 25mg
10:40pm - 25mg
11:30pm - 35mg

april 27th
2:00am - 30mg
3:40am - 30mg
5:10am - 40mg
7:40am - 15mg
9:10am - 30mg
10:45am - 40mg
11:55am - 40mg
2:05pm - 50mg
3:20pm - 60mg
5:30pm - 40mg
8:00pm - 50mg
8:45pm - 40mg
11:00pm - 66mg
got 7-8hrs of sleep.

april 28th

8:40am - 50-60mg
10:00am - 50mg
10:10am - 25mg
12:20pm - 55mg
2:25pm - 45mg
3:20pm - 40mg

thats it. I need to severely practice self control.

All insufflated. Still have exactly 100mg to research. and i'll be glad to have no more after that. Need friends. Need something to live for.
I like the duration. sleep is sort of possible 2 hrs after last analysis.
Anyways, better than no research. Thought the dose would be smaller like mdpv but not at all.
Very much like meth imo. When you think tolerance has won you push it up a lil higher carefully ofcourse and your brain feels like its sizzlin with tingles and all that. i would think this class of drugs would be less toxic so hopefully i'll be alright.

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Old 27-04-2012, 23:03
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

Ehm, you´re not going to do the whole gram are you?
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Old 28-04-2012, 17:15
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

Yes alfa i read you. Right after 66mg were analyzed though. Thank you for those supportive words btw.

I should mention for 6 days straight 2mg phenezapam was made valuable. Proved very effective. Then a gram of pentedrone showed up and it felt like the phen took away from the pentedrone the first few bumps.
Also inderal has been popped frequently during this to maybe lower blood pressure.

i've read other reports of people doing 100-250mg orally and certian amounts insufflated leading up to half grams and grams gone in several hours. Its now exactly 1 1/2 days since this begun. half gram in about 12 hrs cant be that bad can it? im about to weigh the remainder and go from there. Staying up the rest of nite and not doing anymore will not be fun. Maybe ya'll know something i dont. Please share if ya dont mind. I'll try take it easy the rest of the nite. Im used to meth a little too much.

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Decided to get under the covers after thinking about what alfa and hookedonhelping told me. Fell asleep farely easily within 30min. No phen was taken or anything. I like even after many hours of overstimulation you can fall asleep almost right away.

Pentedrone has more of a dirty meth feel to it and upping the dose will still provide euphoria unlike mdpv which tolerance to its euphoria comes quickly. Mdpv is real clean, no tension in the head or tingles or anything but has the worst comedown ive experienced. pentedrones comedown is not as bad.

50mg was administered and then 40mg about 30min later and that was the farthest out there i've been. My eyes were moving a lil and a deep dark feeling came over me for about an hour. NO good.

I hate stimulates. Love psychedelics . Please be careful.

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Old 18-06-2012, 03:27
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

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An hour later bombed 50mg slight effects within 45min. relaxed and mildly euphoric lasting only for 60 mins.
Bombed 100mg feeling effects within 30mins of dose lasting mild effects for 90 mins .
Bombed 200mg feeling effects within 20mins .
effects still only mild-medium euphoric relaxed and talkative 120mins.
Bombed 250mg only mild -medium effects as above .
The euphoric relaxed feelings on doses 200mg-250mg last only 120mins approx.
Could not get to sleep all nite felt wide awake and talkative after initial euphoric relaxed feelings.
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Its now exactly 1 1/2 days since this begun. half gram in about 12 hrs cant be that bad can it?
... Fell asleep farely easily within 30min. No phen was taken or anything. I like even after many hours of overstimulation you can fall asleep almost right away.
Looking at these two experience report excerpts, it seems impossible for the substances to be the same thing. They appear to be nearly opposite! One is relaxing and is taken in huge doses, then prevents sleep. The other is stimulating at a fifth of the dose and allows for sleep 2 hours after administration...?!?

Local experience report: A musician received something labeled "ETC" instead of the gram of pentedrone he ordered, but he believes that the "ETC" label is being used for pentedrone by the vendor because this is the same thing that happened to someone else, and the vendor isn't responding to questions about the mystery "ETC" label.

The musician's reports to me were very much like those from Methimatician but without the binging. Musician used smaller amounts like so:

Day 1: insufflated 20mg upon awakening (coffee substitute!)
Day 2: insufflated 30mg upon awakening, combined with 5mg 5-Meo-MiPT
Day 3: Oral 30mg combined with 8mg 5-Meo-MiPT

In the first case, he enjoyed a nice bounce to get him started, though it was different from coffee. Without the act of making, drinking, tasting, and smelling coffee, it's hard to compare, says he. But he felt as though it was cleaner and easier to handle than caffeine. He compared it to opening the curtains and windows to see brighter light and smell a fresh breeze. It didn't last long, but he thinks that his lack of desire for re-dose was because he used so little and had planned on only using it once that day.

On Day 2 he felt more jittery; he would have preferred to take less of each substance because it made it hard for him to concentrate and get anything done, but mostly he didn't like feeling too speedy. There wasn't much euphoria.

Day 3 experience was much better; with a stronger hit of the psychedelic tryptamine and the slower, gentler onset of the stimulant, he only experienced a period of about 10 minutes of being uncomfortable (sweaty palms and other classic CNS stimulant effects), then it mellowed into a long sustained lucid period in which he meditated with a group of people, spoke with them effectively, and enjoyed a lot of socializing later on. There was no mania or unusually extroverted behavior. He felt more confident and relaxed than usual, and his thoughts were clear. Feedback from others let him know that he wasn't just imagining that he was thinking and speaking clearly; it was actually happening.

About 4 hours after he took his Day 3 combo, he re-dosed with 20mg insufflated "ETC" or pentedrone (none of us seems to know what substances we're really talking about so let's not pretend that this current report is bunk, please!) The bump recharged his batteries for a couple hours and he gradually relaxed out of both the stimulant and psychedelic effects of his cocktail, leaving him mellow and ready for a good night's sleep. His final dose of the ETC/pent was sniffed 4 hours before going to bed, which gave him plenty of time to wind down from a good day.

Day 4: He felt tempted but didn't do more. He still has some and will surely try more of it in the future, but for now he's content and feels like this is a safe one if binges can be avoided.
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Old 18-06-2012, 03:54
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Edit-question answered thanks

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Old 24-06-2012, 06:12
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

SWIM LOVES pentedrone. Friend's bought it online and got me a FATTY ass bag on SWIM's birthday. Snorting it is VERY smooth in comparison to crank and coke. AWESOME STUFF. Feels JUST like crank when you have enough and lasts JUST as long. Dancing is AMAZING on this drug, like being on Pink Chanels (X) again.

ONE OF SWIM's favorite. By far.

As far as comedown, SWIM cannot offer a viable source, when SWIM does it, at least a hit of Meth is taken along with a couple pills.

The first experience, was a hit of crank, 4-vic's, 2 hydromorphone and then 4 short fat lines Pentedrone. Comedown was challenging? It... was SOOO HARD to sleep, worse than Crank, but was ticking like crazy. Other than the ticking, it's fuk'n bomb

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P.s, don't know dosage, because SWIM is a fiend on it. Takes all his and then takes others when they don't want it. So.... Yeah..

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Old 26-07-2012, 12:15
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

Mr.X, a person i've met at some bar, told me several stories about pentedrone. He knew several cases of people experimenting with this RC. Being of scientific nature, he analysed all the experiences, wrote them down, made some conclusions and told me about his research. I've never met him again, but here I do share his knowledge.

CASE1

Mr.A had a quite serious 4-mec party on friday, which finished in the morning, 0800. The saturday was devoted for sleeping, recovering, but somehow mr.A. got out to town and encountered a friend of his around 1900. Friend offered him to try some new thin - pentedrone. Mr. A got a bag containing around 600 miligrams and was told to try 1/4 of it (such dose was recommended by friend's supplier). The action took place in the open-air yard of popular place.

Mr. A insufflated the recommended amount.

00 01 - slightly burnig sensation, easy taste, nowhere as harsh as 4-mec.
00 10 - waiting for effects, talking to the friend, everything's normal
00 30 - feeling too happy. It's not like euphoria, just happiness for no obvious reason. Mr. A was quite tired, it was bit hard to speak with people, he wanted to sit down and listen more. Now he's talking and can't stop. Eyes are opened, fatique is gone.
01 20 - still feeling great, talking a lot, running around the yard, meeting his old friends. Consciousness is great, clarity is great. Everything seems clear, not unlike on 4-mec and other RCs that give stronger euphoric feeling and some easy confusion.
01 40 - quite a strong kick back to reality. Most of the energy's gone, talkativity is quite lower, everything seems much sadder, there's quite strong wish to redose and get back to that happy social world. Although, Mr. A is a very social mister, so he overcomes these symptoms quickly, yet the bitter taste remains. The colleague of Mr. A, Mrs. A, who also participated in experiment, has the same experience, yet for her the comedown is even more harsh. She justifies it by pointing out that she was much more tired and didn't want to go to the city at all.

Later, they get to the party, lay their hands on methylone and 4-mec and can't tell about the feeling next day because of the RCS mixed.

CASE2

Mr. B kept 0,5 grams of pentedrone at home, acquired from the same source as mr A. It was friday, week or two without any substances and alcohol. Mr.B. got home at 2200 with his friend Mr. C., who had already drunk one whiskey and three long islands - he was quite drunk, alcohol already took effect on the speech.

00 00 Mr. B. prepared two 80 miligram (eyeballed) lines, for both of them
00 10 Mr.C reports that he doesn't feel sleepy anymore and that he's feeling the energy rushing back to his body.
00 20 Mr. B. felt his throat went numb. First he almost panicked thinking of allergy, but then he noticed he just can't feel how he swallows drinks or saliva, but he can do it quite well. No reason to panic, yet the feeling isn't very pleasant.
00 30 Mr. B and Mr.C starts cleaning the flat. Vacuum cleaner, folding clothes, washing tables etc. They both feel very energetic, happy with no particular reason, also light body rushing, maybe a slight subtle euphoria. They talk a lot, starting from easy casual topics, going to more serious intimate topics. Speaking doesn't stop.
01 00 Effects continue - talking, happyness. Cleaning the flat gives a lot of joy and interest for both of them. Mr B. finds out that Mr.C had also felt numbness in throat yet weaker. Mr. C seems absolutely sober, like no drinks were ingested.
01 30 they start to feel the effects of pentedrone disappearing, but delay the plan to redose until they get back to the baseline.
01 10 they're feeling normal, so they hit another line each. practically of the same size
01 20 happyness, talkativeness and other effects come back. The flat is cleaned so both misters leave out for the town. It's around 0030.
01 40 they go to the outdoor caffe in the center. Mood is great, energy levels are great, they seem to talk too much, are happy, laugh a lot, and a friend of Mr. B, Mrs. B., easily notices that they're too energetic, lound and active to be sober.
02 00 the active effects of the substance are gone, yet the mood is still lifted, as constant chatting, meeting people and dancing keeps the raised mood at that level. Mr.B. is sober whole evening, while Mr.C. starts drinking
03 00 Mr.C. is somewhere lost drinking with someone, but Mr.C feels back onto the baseline. Almost back, as he feels much more energetic than he was before, also there's no little wish to sleep. Also - no side effects, no ache or bad feelings at heart. The come down is easy, takes it's time. Nowhere near the experiences of Mr. A. and Mrs. A.
04 00 Mr.B feels quite tired physically, yet emotional state is still fine. Dancing, chatting and messing around continues.
05 00 Mr. B and Mr.C each gets a small shot (50mgs) of 4-mec. Mr.C claims that it slowed him down, while Mr.B. feels back on track again.
06 00 Mr. B. gets home to sleep, Mr. C continues drinking, doesn't sleep at all and after two more hours leaves to the trip around local region park.

Mr.B had no trouble sleeping, the next morning was great, no exhaustion, no aches, everything was great and there was no track of anything left from last night.

CASE3

Mr.D ordered some Pentedrone from the trusted vendor. The bag was marked with ETC (etcath), yet mr.D had already done some research, proving that these two were the same (at least at the specified vendor). This new pentedrone looked the same as Mr. D had seen before (source from first two cases), pure white, snowy, sticky, adhesive. Hard to make a line, because it keeps sticking to tself, to the card, to everything. Mr.E, a friend, had come over, and both misters decided to give pentedrone a try. hey both measured 40 miligrams (as they found such dose as a good dose on the forums) and inssuflated it.

00 01 - insufflation
00 05 - Mr.E smokes a cigarette, says he starts to feel something.
00 20 - they both feel some happiness, some easy rushing, slight euphoria. Mr. D feels talkative and energetic, while Mr. E says that the compound is quite strong, sits on the couch and silently listens to Mr.D / observates his condition.
00 40 - Mr.D feels great, Mr.E also claims that the feeling is great, but quite strong. Mr.D. also notices slight bodyload - the hear, and barely noticed difficulty to breath. Breathing is ease, but you can't take the full lungs of air.
01 00 - Mr. E is gone, Mr. D is concentrated on house chores, everything goes smooth, great concentration, great mood. The feeling has absolute clarity and pleasant physical feelings.
01 30 - Mr. D starts to feel the effects disappearing
02 00 - Mr. D goes shopping. He feels much more tired than he was before the try. Also, the clarity is gone, mr.D has some problems concentrating, sometimes gets stuck in the middle of the sentence, forgets what to pick up from the shelves of shopping mal.
02 20 - Mr. D meets a friend. He notices the Mr. D's unability to concentrate and mentions it.
03 00 - Mr. D feels sleepy, exhausted, concentration is still hard.
03 15 - Mr. D gets to bed, falls asleep almost immediately.

Next day - no aftereffects, mood is great, productivity is absolutely normal.

CASE4

Mr. F has pentedrone from the same source as Mr.D had. He brings a gram to the house party with 8 people. Mr. F. had barely slept last night and was working all day, so he feels sleepy, tired, and plans to stay at party for hour or two and then go to sleep. 22.00 he arrives to the party and, feeling so tired, eyeballs a line of pentedrone, that he thinks, should be around 50 miligrams.

00 10 - feeling energy coming up.
00 20 - talkativeness, mood a bit better (but no "awesome and great unreasonably happyness"), energy's here, sleepyness gone, party going's up. Perfect stimulant, Mr. F feels great.
01 20 - effects are gone, tiredness are back. Mr. F. decides to redose the same amount.
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this continues for the rest 6 hours. Mr.F. tries to keep redoses as separate as possible, ex., when he feels the effects gone, he still waits for 10-30 minutes, before insufflating another 30-60 miligrams. So the party goes on, Mr.F feels good, chatty, he participates quite well, as he hadn't had a hard night and day before. The energy's there, concentration, slight euphoria, which is slighter and slighter after every redose.

The thing Mr.F starts to notice is that the bigger dose/smaller gap between doses gives little effects. The stimulation is weaker every time, and shorter lived everyt time too. And the negative - side effects and the tiredness starts to add up. Every come down is harder and harder, and later, body load do not disappear after getting another line. At 0630 in the morning Mr. F do not want to touch the compound anymore as he doesn't feel very well.

07 00 - Mr.F notices that his thoughts are scrambled, and instead of the clarity and concentration he got at the start of the eve, his sentences stop in the middle, thoughts wander away, and when talking about topic and finding arguments, he finds himself speaking the argument, but forgetting what was the topic.
09 00 - Mr.F decides to try sleeping, as he feels exhausted, it's hard to speak and concentrate. Although he manages to keep his eyes closed, he can't sleep.
10 30 - side effects strike hard, he sweats a lot, usually feeling unnatural warm/hot. He tries to calm down, breathe at regular rhythm and get asleep bu that do not work. Racing heart, pain in the head, pain in the chest, heavy breathing. It continues for several hours.
12 30 - still no sleep, same side effects, maybe they're going a bit easier, and overall feel gets better
13 00 - small trip to local shop. Mr. F buys two bananas and isotonic drink (juices, b vitamins, c vitamin, etc.). Eats them, sits down and listens to two people talking. Mr. F. feels totally sober, sentences make sense again, and concentration is back to normal. Yet physicaly he feels exhausted, side effects are still here.
14 00 - mr.F is back to his home, having sex. It's exhausting, yet feels ok, erection is there, and orgasm is much stronger than on being sober.
15 00 - mr.F lastly falls asleep, but wakes up every 30 minutes to go to the toilet to take a piss. While he tried to sleep, he also went to take a piss every 20-30 minutes, yet the amounts were small.
17 00 - mr.F wakes up, still tired, but the side effects are almost gone. Yet overall feel is bad, tired, unhappy.
23 00 - mr.F gets asleep at last in his bed.

next day - everything's ok, but the experience, although starting well and full of good emotions is tainted with the side effects, remembrence of body loads and heavy feeling experiences.

CASE5-6-7
As Mr. X told me, these took place between the time of CASE2 and CASE4. These were one time shots of 40-50 mg lines, insufflated. Used as stimulant, to get back on foot during various summer festivals or on other occassions. Various misters and mistresses reported that all these worked well, giving little happines, slight euphoria, barely noticeable body load, little-to no side effects, good stimulation, good clarity and good concentrations.

OVERALL

GOOD
Very potent and strong stimulant, starting at low doses
Increased talkativeness
Increased mood,
Boring things start to look more interesting
Concentration, clarity of thought
Energy, lots of energy
Slight euphoria
Pleasurable rush
Unexplainable happyness, everything seems great, allright
Sobers person up

BAD
Consistence - hard to measure, sticks to everything, hard to snort, hard to make a line
Slight anxiety
Wish to redose
Noticeable comedown (Harder after each redosing)
Big quantity needed to reach the wondrous state of "unexplainable happy and so so happy and in such a good mood"
Hard to sleep.
Tolerance builds up quickly.
Slight jaw clenching.
Body load - tension, weight on lungs, racing heart (large quantities)
Hard to concentrate (large quantities)
Sweating, changes in temperature (large quantities)
Headaches (large quantities)

UGLY
Body load adds up after each redose.
Effects do not get up and gets weaker after each redose.
Tiredness is heavier and heavier after each redose.

CONCLUSION
In short. It's very pleasant, very potent and strong stimulant, which leaves person's head clear, helps him concentrate, gives him much energy and objectively improves his mood. It's enjoyable, social, can be used in clubs, parties, home parties, and even when cleaning your room.

The danger lurks in the redosing. It almost doesn't help, and the side effects, tiredness, everything adds up very quickly. So innocent looking fourth line could bring you to the state you don't want to be in. It has low ceiling, after which the good effects do not increase, but the side effects gets heavier and heavier.

If person plans to take one-two shots during the whole night, it will be good, it will be great. It will help in every aforementioned aspect, and the side effects will be little to none. But Mr.X strongly advises against regular redosing or using more than 150 mgs per night. It's good for recreational use, but only in small / rare amounts.

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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

In my experience:

Duration: 1-2 hour peak (dose dependant), 4-10 hour duration (dose dependant)

Dosage: Starts at around 10-15mg similar to MDPV, but redoses do not dramatically increase both the positive and negative effects like MDPV and so I have easily consumed over 100mg+ in a matter of hours before despite 25mg being quite similar to 15mg MDPV which is usually my max dose in a 3+ hour span.

This does not seem to cause anywhere near as bad a comedown as MDPV despite feeling rather similar to me, and anxiety, paranoia, physical discomfort etc are less prevalent - however it's important to remember that is NO evidence of it being safer and so it's important to try keep your doses low even if you feel fine!
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Since this chem turns to oily yellow freebase when baking soda is applied similarly to mdpv and a-pvp I have a hunch that this will smoke cleaner and more potent as a freebase by mixing with water and baking soda, heating and smoking all in one step.
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

Pentedrone experiences:
Subject: 80Kg, age 23. Prior experience with: methiopropamine, dimethocaine, ethylphenidate, desoxypipadrol.
Also taking: 3mg risperidone daily and 0.5mg benztropine twice daily. This may have played a significant role.
In possession of 25g of the substance.


ROAs: Variable – IN predominantly, experimented with buccal/sublingual, rectal, oral

Effects:
A numbing of the area targeted noted in intranasal and buccal/sublingual. An intense (*very* intense) burning was noticed before the numbing, especially with increased doses. This was noticed in rectal as well.

IN:
10mg as a first hit. Tolerance builds quickly. After 3 days, I was doing 3 lines @ 50mg each.
Experience varied, but usually after 2-3 minutes, the pain subsided (tears and phlegm were produced immediately and intensely). About the time that faded, a general body high began. This was not exactly clear-headed. I don’t think it has any use as a replacement for ADD medications.
Subject enjoyed the acute pain, but not the long-lasting, slowly but not too quickly hint of blood in the phlegm.. For this, the soft palate remained inflamed for days after administration, causing phlegm to drip into the laryngopharynx, leading to the development of flu-like symptoms. [This after many doses)
Because of this pain, subject attempted buccal administration.

Buccal:
Effective dosage was higher, more like 30-50mg at first and then scaling up, like that.
Effective buzz, feeling on top of the world (I have no experience with hard, hard stuff, so I don’t know)

However, it ripped off the outermost layer of the epithelium there, causing both acute pain, and canker sores throughout the most. Chemical burn.

Rectal:
Attempted via 113mL enema device with lower volume.
Some efficacy, but it seemed to be more an irritant laxative, and so while the burn was there, it was hard to know how much was absorbed by fecal matter and how much not. (50mL of 250mg administered in such fashion.
Decided it was not a viable solution due to the residual effects on rectum/anus.


Might have been administered incorrectly, although nothing escaped until 30 minutes later when the irritation forced a bowel movement.

After a period of not using due to discomfort, subject tried the following:
Oral 250mg:
Just fell asleep. Nothing good seemed to happen. Strange, no?It reminds me of the time I couldn’t sleep and 1000mg of caffeine knocked me out. I feel that it most likely becomes sedative at higher doses.

Either the risperidone changed its effects on me, or what I had (white crystal powder) was not actually pentedrone

Recommendation: Not worth it, although I'm still going to finish off my bag, pain regardless.. DMC was so much nicer and cleaner, Personally, I'd rather try to get actual amfets.

I posted a first review on this thread:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=193930 (replace the end of the thread you're reading with this number.

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Ludwig Boltzmann tried bioassaying these, even though a physicist.

These included Dimethocaine, ethylphenidate, 2-dpmp, 4-MEC, and Pentedrone.

Dimethocaine was enjoyable but required large doses and was not useful for getting things done

Ethylphenidate seemed very subtle. I didn't really feel much from it.

2-DPMP gave me the biggest rush I've ever had when I took it the fiirst time, and it was never again even close. It's very dangerous in my opinion because it lasts so long *and* it's so potent. So your compulsion to get another rush 30 minutes later? You'll be regretting it for 12 hours.

If administered by doctors and planned, it could be useful.

MPA mostly provided jitteriness, suspecting adrenergic activity to be primary.

Favorite so far is pentedrone. Motivated, euphoric, lasting a few hours of euphoria and then 3 -4 more of being generally stimulated. Moreish, I'd say, but it was quite functional and wasn't very jittery.
Also, I noticed that it had a ceiling effect.

To balance out the dopamine/serotonin (assumed) preferential activity for the Pentedrone, small amounts of MPA were added. This made tasks seem more urgent, not just more doable.

My two cents as of yet.


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Ok so I'd like to throw my 2 cents in here... A friend of mine received 1 g from a very reputable supplier that he has been using for a while and has always been exactly what it should be... After a little research he tried 1mg allergy test, waited and then snorted 5mg. He was slightly stimulated and cleaned for 3 hrs then went to sleep with no problems. The next day, him and his wife tried 10mg snorted each at 6pm... They waited, felt good, very coke like... The "rush wore off so they started doing small bumps (10-30mg) and finished at about midnight... All in all, they went through, 350mg together... The euphoria wears off within 20-30 min and subsides to a amphetamine like tweak. This lasted for the next 36 hrs... They both did not sleep that night or the next. They did not take any more... Something interesting is that while in this strung out state, they tried everything to go to sleep and nothing worked... Xanax did nothing, diphenhydrinate did nothing, cannabis did nothing, alcohol did nothing. A 50mg hit of Dmt did nothing other than making him sweat... This is some serious shit... Finally after 36hrs they were able to drink themselves to sleep. if you are looking to do this, please be careful, that is all... Fight the urge to so more and are how you feel before going any further...
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Who the fuck takes DMT to go to sleep....

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anyway, i tried penedrone a couple of time, and imo its even less enjoyeble then 4-mec (wich is total shit), some stimulation, no euphoria, annoying bodyload and NO SLEEP.

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He didn't take dmt to go to sleep... He tried drinking, smoking cannabis, taking melatonin and nothing even gave a hint that he had taken anything... This pentadrone overpowered everything he took so in the name of research he took the strongest chem he had just to see if anything could touch it... It didn't which got him thinking this would be a good ripcord for trips??? Say if someone was having a bad trip or freakin out this would presumably pull then right out of it and sober them up in a jiffy... Maybe had a couple too many drinks at the bar? Just a little bump and back to sober... As for the dmt, after being up for 36hrs+ and taking several things to try and come down to no effect, he wasn't in the soundest of mind sets but it must have seemed like a good test to which he was suprised and not at the same time... He knew this was serious shit... That's all...
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AFOAF will be receiving a few grams of this in the next few weeks. He knows it's still a little while a way but he wanted too let everyone know he will be sure too post the dosing and effects with each dose as soon as he can.
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SWIM recieved there Pentedrone in the mail today it came in nice little clear crystals resembling some actual bath salts, it's a very nice clean high a 10 mg dose insuffulated is enough too get SWIM lifted and energized too accomplish tasks, and that 10 mg dose will last SWIM about 2 hours.

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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

Pent has been my doc for over a year.
Functional, low load, not TOO fiendish... AM -125-150mg rails with starbucks, 50 bumps throughout day If i'm good, mabye get a 150 for dinner then crash comfortably with Jimmy F late night. then get up for work and do it all over again. Funny...unlike other rc's or drugs in general, I have very few regrets with pent. guess it depends on what your looking for. a stim with few side effects and doesn't give you away to those lookin g for your tell take bloodshot eyes... I degress. I really like apvp but more for chillin at night. much more euph than my daylight hours can tolerate. the effects of the combination seem very attractive to me. Before i get another clinical trial going....any previous experiendce? haven't seen any information on this combo...anywhere. If I don't hear from anyone on this major tom will report back soon......
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Re: Pentedrone Drug Info

This is a reply to Boltzmann comments on my description of pentedrone in another thread. It can be found here, my opinion is post #46, Boltzmann's - #47. As my reply is solely about pentedrone and continuing the discussion in the mentioned thread would be considered offtopic, i'm replying here.

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3. pentedrone - it's like supercocaine, light tingling and pleasurable body feeling, truly extreme mood lift, which comes only few minutes after insufflation, talkativeness like no other and energy to do the talking. Yet one must be very cautious with the doses as side effects build up quickly and comedown could be harsh after prolonged use.
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Mild euphoria and mood boost, fast onset, and terrible side effects. Strong dislike would be a gentle summary of my feeling on this compound. Supercocaine? No. Not by a long shot. If ever one compound was meant to coyly hint at possible grand euphoria or significant usefulness while never providing, pentedrone would be that compound.

Pentedrone would be the siren singing you to shipwreck.

My current reply:

I understand your wish to warn people about this substance, but i'm feeling unjustly attacked. So to defend the storyteller's description of pentedrone:

Well, the guy never mentioned such things like the "grand euphoria" - there was none, only "light tingling and pleasurable body feeling". And the guy already emphasized the side effects - out of two sentences used to describe the substance, one was used to warn people about them, building up quickly and getting quite harsh.

For him it was like cocaine. He rarely had euphoria on cocaine. He got talkative on cocaine. He got mood lift with cocaine. He got energy with cocaine. So, definition supercocaine matches his cocaine experience, as pentedrone was better for him at all three - energy, chattyness, mood lift.

Of course, if someone tries to chase the euphoria and consumes risky amount of substance, it can turn to hell. But as with all the things, it must be approached cautiously, and the goodness of the substance is subjective.

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