cold water clean enough?

[allyourbase]

I have two questions.


the first is regarding cold water extraction of hydrocodone bitartrate. can you get it clean enough to use IV? will the aceto hurt you? could one do straight cold water extraction to IV with no drying?


next is regarding pentazocine, the questions I have are basicly like those above, except Id like to know if its worth it. is pentazocine any fun? is it really an opiate like high or is it one of those mild near agonists that do nothing but waste money? I know that some is mixed with nalaxone to prevent IVing, but If one could get them without the nalaxone and IVed them would it be nice?


can aceto hurt if IVed???? I mean it doesnt seem half as bad as some of the stuff junk is cut with.....but still better safe than sorry.Edited by: allyourbase

[motorhead]

I have the same idea exept i want to clean percocets for the oxycodone. I beleive that a proper and thorough CWE should remove most of the acetominephen for IV use. I still havent gotten my materials yet(soon, hopefully), but i plan to post my results in my percocet thread in the opiate and opiod chem forum.


Isnt that nalaxone a bitch? Talwins are available to me, but they contain nalaxone to prevent IV use. I havent seen an extraction on this forum. Anyone with a method, please post. I will look elsewhere for this one as well.

[moldie]

I've cleaned percocets with the cwe and injected without any further refinement. I was very nervous at first because I didn't know if injecting apap would be some horrible mistake, it turns out that it's fairly harmless. I don't do it so often though because it's a time consuming processand the idea in my mind behind injecting is instant gratification. Oxycodone is only about 10% more potent injected than it is eaten, and you deffinately lose 10% of your yield during the extraction. I don't know about the potency differences that exist with hydrocodone though (i've only done hyrdocodone a few times in my life), it might be worthwhile.

[allyourbase]

hey motorhead, dont buy talwin, buy talecet, no nalaxone

[motorhead]

hehe, would if i could. The pain meds around here are not of a big variety and the brands available are becoming rare, fast. I know the CWE is a big pain in the ass, but if i want to get an opie highmore than once a month i dont see any alternatives. Well growing poppies, but thats next spring.