what would you recomend ?

[adzket]

hi there,


swim only heard of rc's 6 months or so ago whilest doing some research into dmt. they just orded two bottles of exsplosion which i belive to have about 250mg of methylone in them. they are intersted in trying 2c-i and 2c-e aswell as 5-meo-dmt, DiPT, and dpt. and will probibly get around to ordering them in next few months.


i was wondering what rc's people's fof's would recomend to there friends or people who had not done them befor and why. for visual exsperiances long or short trips ect.... what sort of setting would be best for them..


also which people have had realy good times with and bad times with why it was like that ect.. which would you do again if you could only do it once more.... thanks adz.

[sloppo]

For first time trippers, of the chemicals you listed, SWIM recommends a modest dose of 2C-I (16 - 20mg). Good visuals and the trip is pretty clear headed. One draw back is how long the experience lasts.


SWIM always has really good times with psychedelics, never had a bad time. SWIM has seen pretty much only good responses from 2C-I, which he cannot say about 2C-E, 5-meo-DMT, DiPT and dpt, or acid and mushrooms for that matter.





Sloppo

[Sick Jack]

For me, 15-20 mg of 2CI is already a good dose, so be careful !

[Barron]

Yes, for a first time, I would stick to 12-15 mg maximum (plus a boost of 4-5 mg after 3 hours if you can easily handle the situation). Try to taste before 2-3 mgs to check if you do not have any allergy (a friend of mine had allergy to 5-Meo-MIPT, so I guess it can be made to any RC's).


If you go to a party, my opinion is that methylone is the easiest to handle (for a first use, I would recommend a little more than half bottle first, and a restonce you begin to slow down (2-3 hours)).


Big recommandation : once you have take a dose, it can be very long to developp its full effects, especially if you have eaten before.In certain situation, it can take easily2-4 hours (specially with 2c*, it seems) .


Therefore, prepare your material before and stick to that preparation/dosage in any case. Keep always that principle in mind when using RC's, if you don'twanna have bad surprise.


A friend of mine has made this classic mistake with 2 CI (basically, he dobled hisstandarddose of 16 mg), and hedefinitely wouldn't like to do such experience again. With some other Rc's, like 5-Meo-AMT, such mistake can induce moresevere consequences.

[JewishNazi]

Which out of 2C-D and 2C-E would be better for a psychedelic experience with minimal negatives?

[adzket]

thanks every one for your advice. swim has triped befor on acid and mushrooms and they use alot of k although that is a slightly diffirent type of trip. but they just wanted to hear some peoples advice who have atualy done rc's. would you only recomend them for use at home? thanks for the info guys.

[Ephemerides]

SWIM would try 2c-i for his first rc, if he had a choise, at about 15mg or so for the first time, depending on body weight.



I don't think it's easy to have a bad trip on anything lower than 15mg
of 2c-e. I don't know about 2c-d, but from what I've heard it's weaker
and I would assume easier to handle the effects.



SWIM has not had or seen second hand, many bad expereinces of a 2c
chemical. Mindset and setting is the key, as long as that's good,
you'll be fine. Have the right people around, be in a happy mood to
begin with, you'll be fine. Always best to test the shallow water
before you dive in the deep end. Start with low doses.