Effects - Was it BZP?

[actarus]

Swim likes mdma.
But as everybody knows, pills sold as ecstasy contain very often anything but ecstasy/mdma, and seems that many X pills are in fact BZP pills.
He had some pills that definetely were not X, he felt a strong rush, felt very "up", awake, also pretty fucked up, but he didn't notice any enjoyable effect, at least compared to those of mdma.
Swim'd like to know what generally are the effects of BZP?

[Zoidberg]

That sounds a lot like mcpp. The high, in SWIMs experience, was stimulating and made him feel a bit strange, but there was none of the euphoria and empathy associated with mdma.

[geezaman]

NO one can tell you what it was. People can only speculate and apply logic to the situation. It could have been a variety of different individual drugs or a mixture of different drugs.

In relation specifically to mCPP SWIM would have expected actarus would have experienced nausea and visual effects if it was mCPP. From SWIMs reading (and experiences) her believes mCPP is the dirtiest of the piperazine's with the highest body-load and most unpleasant effects, and these would have been reported had it been mCPP.

As already said it could be absolutly anything, anything including your suggestion of BZP. However BZP is often mixed with other piperazines to give the optimum (or most like "E") effect. Meopp & BZP, and, BZP & TMFPP have both been reported as similar to E but with much less luved up effects, and these combinations are alot kinder with less unpleasantness, so SWIM would suggest these are more likely than mCPP or BZP alone.
Peace
Geezaman

[actarus]

geezaman's absolutely right, of course nobody can tell what that dirty pill was.
One sure thing -considering swim was expecting mdma effects- what he experienced was rather unpleasant.
The 2 following days were pretty fuckin harsh, with stomach pain and feeling like shit, which lead swim to even worry a bit.
Now swim's fine and back to his healty state but not ever again he'll swallow some unknown pill passed as ecstasy.