Experiences - Crack - IV vs. Smoking

[PitBull884]

SWIM is an IV coke user and in SWIM's neck of the woods crack is much more available than powder, So because of that SWIM breaks down the crack to IV it. The past few days, SWIM's dealer has had some less than average gear and was wondering if SWIM was to smoke this crack instead of breaking it down and slamming it would the high be better? Keep in mind also that SWIM has only been doing coke regularly for approx. 2 months and before that he had a heroin habit for a good while. That is the main reason SWIM IV's coke because needle fever is a REAL bitch and SWIM is totally in love with her !!!

[therealjoseph]

Heard that the high from injecting crack lasts longer then smoking. So if one was looking for the most intense high for the least amount of money I guess that they would want to inject, but that shit has to burn the users vein man.

You probably already know this if your familiar with injecting crack but I've heard that users should be sure to use vinegar rather then citric acid.

Not positive on any of this though.

[BoxStar]

Generally the flash from smoking is much shorter and less intense although it has a faster onset; smoking (more properly inhaling vaporized cocaine) it’s also bad for the lungs but on the other hand is safer with regard to overdosing and won’t leave track marks everywhere.

Injecting can also be bad for the lungs if particles are injected which can block capillaries systemically; the overdose potential is very large (around 75-80% of all overdoses), a habit to slamming coke will quickly create track marks since the time between injections to maintain effects is very short and its probably the best way to fuck SWIY veins really good, extravasating cocaine (missing the vein, particularly the most superficial ones, like the ones in the hands) can create ischemic lesions where the skin dies and is replaced by scars which don’t look pretty and are permanent and the vasoconstriction caused by coke makes hitting veins harder which increases the chance of accidents.

Slamming crack when properly done with a proper acid could be/probably is safer that slamming that white powder that is sold as cocaine in the western world because of the cuts and crack usually has higher purity.

The best is to use high-grade distilled white vinegar if access to pharmaceutical grade acids is not possible, never use lemon juice or other fruit juices; pharmaceutical grade citric acid can usually be obtained from needle exchanges or from chemical suppliers and it’s the best option, the best filtering device available is a must; in any case slamming an acid is very bad for veins so the least amount possible should be used.

With regard to addiction potential SWIM has read multiple, conflicting scientific papers on the subject some say smoking is the most addictive route of administration due its shorter duration of effects and easy process of administration; however others point that while from observation it may seem that crack smokers are more impulsive this may be simply because the shorter duration of effects while injection allows for the greatest amounts of cocaine to be injected in the shortest time creating a more intense and longer flash but with time it becomes even more impulsive with a more profound dependence, studies done on primates say that IV cocaine is very likely the most addictive drug ever.

In SWIM experience nothing beats IV cocaine in its potential to get anyone “hooked on feeling” beyond oblivion, overdose dangers and having a extremely overwhelming flash with high doses.

Some words from SWIM experience; smoking/slamming coke is not a sustainable habit in any way, it’s really bad for SWIY health, most cokeheads with daily IV habit stop it altogether or reduce it to a few hits “every now and then” or end up dead or with several health problems at the least.

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excellent posts, with good advice and harm reduction considerations, thanks

[kurmanthefrog]

Crack does not have higher purity than regular cocaine. So-called "crack" is impure coke (not a complete freebase form). Though coke may or may not be cut, crack will aways be "cut" with baking soda and the likes, so it is unfair to say that crack has higher purity than coke. On average, street coke is more pure than crack.

[BoxStar]

Originally Posted by therealjoseph

Somebody can be familiar with something without doing it. I'm familiar with murder but I don't kill. Over-cautiousness is fine though. I apologize if it seemed like I was accusing you of any illegal activities though, as that was definitely not my intention.

Thanks for the information though, that's very interesting. I wonder if It's really worth the $ savings for somebody to inject baking-soda into there veins. Or maybe the way somebody would prepare it prevents that somehow?

Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) is actually pretty much harmless when injected intravenously; extravasating a large (and/or very concentrated solutions) amount is dangerous since it can “liquefy” tissues and cause lesions which can be dangerous, and it’s the main danger regarding slamming sodium bicarbonate, very high doses could have systemic effects that could be dangerous, but of all the cuts around its probably the safest one.

[General Grievous]

swim is into coke and its cousins...hes shot coke too..but in his opinion fuck the slamming! just smoke it....and stop iving cocaine its lame...iving is for ice and heroin...he speaks first hand as a long time coke user who recently shot up the coke...yea its nice...but look at it this way....would swiy rather spend 100 bucks on injecting crack for a short high...or smoking 100 bucks worth and lasting longer? answer that