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Old 31-12-2008, 16:02
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Opiate WD or Alcohol WD which is worse??

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I have been going to AA/NA meetings and have been trying to sympathize with the "Alcoholics" by comparing to SWIMs opiate kick.
I know some of the symptoms can be the same such as the DT's even though non life threatning with opi's. Gooseflesh seems to be universal as SWImy mom used to work for an alcoholic dentist and always said he shook and had goose flesh while working.
Any SWIYS have "multitalented" experience or opinions?????
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Re: Opiate WD or Alcohol WD which is worse??

Patient X never really experienced physical WD's from alcohol, then again he always he a days rest at least in between binges. Morning shakes sometimes, but that was about it.

Physically, at least for him, it was a lot easier to become hooked on opiates than alchohol (psychologically both were equal in their challenges)
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Re: Opiate WD or Alcohol WD which is worse??

Red Rock has some experience in both but mainly opiates. He has been through alcohol withdrawals and opiate withdrawals. Alcohol withdrawals in his opinion aren't quite as bad as opiate withdrawals; however, alcohol withdrawals can be fatal. Red Rock never got to that point in his alcohol withdrawals but he definitely thinks opiate withdrawals are worse both psychological and physical. Alcohol is almost on par with the opiate withdrawals psychologically but not quite there. This is just his opinion though since his alcohol withdrawals weren't too bad
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Re: Opiate WD or Alcohol WD which is worse??

SWIM thinks there may be levels to alcohol wd. If patient X were to have been steadily drinking 3 liters of whiskey/gin/rum etc for several years then we might have something to compare it to. SWIM knows full well the beast of Methadone/OXY/Suboxone WD and how vicious it can be. The same being for extreme alcoholics having to go into the hospital to detox. SWIM had to be detoxed under med supervision for opiates and knows how that goes. Hats off to you guys who were able to tolerate those first 5-7 days of pure hell. SWIMs habit was a true monster though several grammes a day stacked with subs and done
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Re: Opiate WD or Alcohol WD which is worse??

SWIM was in AA/NA for several years and made a lot of close friends. He heard a lot of stories from people on both alcohol and opiates. SWIM has personally only experienced the opiate withdrawl but due to him talking to a lot of people, he formed an opinion on which was worse.

Generally speaking, he thinks the average opiate withdrawl is easily more painful and uncomfortable. He agrees that there are extreme cases of each but on average he thinks it's easier to come off of alcohol. From a medical stand point however, SWIM believes that it is more likely for an alcoholic to have more serious symptoms such as seizures though..........
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