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Old 30-11-2008, 02:19
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Question Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

SWIM is curious as to whether any other non-opiate & opioid drugs are blocked by the suboxone preperation of buprenorphine containing 2mg nalaxone.

Would benzos and barbiturates, specifically butalbital, be blocked?
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Re: Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

Alcohol can be affected in some ways as this is what Red Rock has found out from previous experience
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Re: Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

SWIM is not an addict in withdrawels & uses very small amounts of the buprenorphine, nalaxone prep 2 get high (.5-1mg IN or IR) & enjoys the euphoria. SWIM asks because they want to potentiate the euphoria through the use of benzos or barbiturates, possibly alcohol too.

At these doses (.5-1mg) would the "blockade effect" caused by the nalaxone or possibly bupe too, even significantly block out the high/euphoria?
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Re: Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

Swims been using suboxone for quite sometime now about 4mg a day. Swims taken many drugs in combo with it and never has had a problem. But injecting benzos and subs is very dagerous and Swim has heard that most deaths on suboxone are caused by injecting high amounts of benzos with it.

Subs only block opiates as far as swims experience goes. Swims done X and subs xanax and subs ativan and subs klonipin and subs cocaine and subs weed and subs ritalin and subs adderall and subs.

It does change the high in some cases but swim wouldnt say it blocks the high of anything but opiates.
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Re: Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

In SWIM's experience, the effects of weed were diminished by suboxone. this may be due to the fact that THC has a slight binding affinity to the opiate receptors.
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Re: Other, non-opiate & opioid, drugs blockaded by buprenorphine?

SWIM has her own person opinions on the matter, but has had similar experiences of strange reactions to alcohol since being put on buprenorphine. SWIM normally has not had any problems with alcohol. After being put on buprenorphine (scripted 24mg/day however rarely EVER taking a single 8mg pill). SWIM honestly believes she may never have had a bowel movement again at 24mg dose... but given the ridiculous expense of the treatment, stock-piling was the only way to afford long-term maintanence.

The thing with alcohol is that after starting buprenorphine treatment, SWIM could drink, and drink, and drink... everything seemed like normal. Then suddenly SWIM would go from the typical drunken state that was to be expected... Even at large doses of alcohol SWIM is typically more shy than you would think. It was like all of a sudden, all of the alcohol that SWIM had been consuming all night would kick in and put SWIM in a drunken state as she's never been in before. She has gotten totally plastered many times in her younger days, blacked out, the works, but this is different.

Granted, drinking on narcotics may not be the healthiest thing to do, but after repeated occasions SWIM began to wonder. Actually SWIM is really torn because, this drug did change her life completely. It gave her a second chance. So, she does not want to knock it. However she would have went to a methadone clinic long before suboxone/subutex was approved for office based treatment if there was a clinic within a reasonable distance.
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