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Originally Posted by outriderx
hi
SWIm got 10g of powdered and dehydrated amanita. does he still need to heat-treat it ?
he is thinking about 5gs - waiting - maybe another 5 grams dose wise..
how long does it take to get effects / how long should he wait?
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I shouldn't think you'd need to heat it - it's probably been heated to dry it out anyway, and as I understand the chemistry of the process, it's the drying out that's more important than the heating anyway. I remember seeing some research someone posted on another forum where some A. muscaria were boiled at above 100C in a pressure cooker for many hours, and even after that the amount of ibotenic acid that had converted to muscimol was minimal. So heating is useful as a way of drying, but it's the drying that's really important. Also, muscimol breaks down at about 175C, so overheating them could ruin them, which is why I'm a bit sceptical about the 'effects' people get from smoking them being anything more than placebo.
As for dose, SWIM's never got anything more than a very mild effect from them (SWIM's last dose, something like 16-18g in two installments, had no noticeable effects at all). But then, erowid has reports of people tripping balls, or whatever the dissociative equivalent is called, on about 10g, so 5g + 5g if and when you think it'd be a good idea to top up is probably about right.
07-11-2008, 18:46
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