Setting - Need tips for friends first trip

[iamsparrow]

My Rampant Rhinocerous has this to say:

"Tomorrow night me and my three best friends are planning to fry at my house. I as well as two of these friends have had experience with LSD. My other friend who is planning on tripping has never had a psychedelic experience before.

I'm generally fairly concerned about properly educating and informing a first timer and I usually feel confident about knowing what to do if a newbie starts to loose control of a trip but this friend in particular has made me a little more worried.

He's the kinda guy that can't control his impulses on even something as mild as weed and he tends to act irrationally in stressful situations.

My concern is that he will loose complete control and do something really stupid. Being that we have to be somewhat discrete in our planned setting, I can't afford for anything bad to happen.

I was wondering if anyone knew of some good house hold remedies for a bad trip. I don't have anything like Valium or Xanax but I got some beers in the fridge and some amphetamines for ADD which usually puts me in a really positive mood. I might also have some old MAOI's in the medicine cabinet.

I don't want to go into a trip with a negative mindset but I will feel better If I'm prepared for a problem."

Any Suggestions for said rhino?

[Chefko]

I never tryed something like that but i think the most important is to
have the right people with you ande be in a good mood.
And of corse its important to feel safe,especially that depends on your people.

[chillinwill]

iamsparrow you need to go back and read the rules since you have just broken the self-incrimination rule! the rules can be found on my signature

[Songcycle67]

No one can do anything to guarantee themselves a good trip. There are many different ideas and preconceptions that make up what a certain person considers "good" and "bad" experience. The best one can do is to make sure that everyone involved, including themselves, is ready for the experience mentally and in a good environment with good friends...preferably a familiar environment.

SWIM has only had one experience where the other person completely lost it and ruined it for him. SWIM planned the experience out carefully, had a good idea of the dose, and made sure they were both safe. Everything planned to the T. It was the other guy's first time and he was a lot like your friend sounds; just very susceptible to psychoactives. So anyway SWIM ends up spending the entire night trying to talk him out of calling his parents to come and pick him up! The guy was completely delusional and scared shitless that SWIM had poisoned him. Every time SWIM tried to comfort him or give him something to eat or drink the guy thought that he was trying to give him more LSD!! SWIM was thinking "Jesus that's the last thing I want to do to this dude!"

It was a total buzzkill/psychotic experience and SWIM didn't trip with anyone else for a couple months after that. Definitely do as much as possible to make sure the person is ready and stable. But SWIM thought his friend was stable and ready enough until he started peaking. It's just impossible to predict these things and that's why no newbs should be dosed or pressured into dosing.

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good advice dude!

[Jatelka]

There are many tips and tricks around here for managing bad trips.

First timers is a little more difficult. There is a thread here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ht=time+sitter

about the flamingo's experience "sitting" her sisters first time with LSD (although the flamingo was not sober): She was apprehensive, but never really had doubts about her sisters reaction. It sounds like your monkey does have doubts?

For the flamingo, and LSD, everything has to be perfect. Don't get her wrong, she has tripped in all sorts of (with hindsight) adverse (ish) conditions. But she has never really doubted people's responses.

[Spare Chaynge]

If swim is worried about what a friend may do... Do not let this friend use psychedelics.

[Panthers007]

Agreed. Just the concern alone is possible to trigger a bad reaction. Not just to the guinea pig - but to the rhino. Abort plan.