Opinions - Are tryptamines more benign than phenethylamines ? The hangover and what to choose?

[Ezy Ryder]

SWIM has a few lsd, lsa, shroms, and couple datura´s madnees. Fell that very spiritual, fun, shifting in perspectives, sacred and turn in a different person after so much that only use it approximately 6-8 months apart to fell in the mood for it. But is seeking for a more recreational/sociabilizer/fun one even therapeutic psychedelic, considering 2-CI or moxy for these periods of absence ...But SWIM fell that trypts are more benign in the body and mind than phens, considering hppd too, but not afraid of it because lsd caused it sometimes. SWIM have a neutral to sick brief contact with the most common phen, the E pills. In the case the

pills seem to contain mda too, because of abnormal duration and trip little

different from common pills reported by others. In a apartment only with
with GF, SWIM ingested a pill and a hour after more half and felt it very very mild emotionally opened and music enhancement , closer to a placebo, but was there.

And in the finishing some annoying weak oev/cev more like waves in watermark.

SWIM girlfriend (no previous experience and less wheight) assuming this

will not cause hallucinations(although swimn explained to her they generaly are

very good and is far from be terrifying. But her fear is basically from see

snakes and these sort of things) decided to ingested only .5 pill and have

first a laughing atack and after difficult past repressed energy flow and

crying , but after the effect wore off she only said that was horrible but very interesting and after months without mention about it she thanked me and said that thing have shown a dimension of herself that she have always neglected. SWINM didn’t understand her very well in the occasion but was to try a higher dose of the same pills in a campsite: 1 pill and two hours after the other pill and only after more two hours SWINM fell that horrible sensation of could not focus in any matter of life without fell guilty or extreme sad or anger(but after that SWINM now thinks that was a bad forced state of mind).But the worst was after that, felling paranoid seeming like a ufo was landing in the campsite, some deliriums and satanic CEV's like the back of pocker cards of red, blue and yellow simple geometric patterns of the skin of a dragon in my front. Not

counting the sick felling and the extreme hangover in the next day. What do you suggest to SWINM ? How bad is 2-ci hangover? Any big chances to have bad hppd?

[Niteflights]

Swim has always felt that, in general, phens have a more toxic neurochemical signature than trypts. It seems the fragile structure inherent in most tryptamines allow them to break down into easily metabolized byproducts much more readily than some of the highly stable phens.

Most disheartening to SWIM is the sensation of a plastic film in the brain with 2cb... a lovely chemical but with some very unnatural feeling side effects.

After years of extensive research with most tryptamines, SWIM must say he never felt nearly any of the side effects that are common with phens.

On a side note, Hoffman seemed to age much better than Shulgin. Don't know if the phens have the nootropic effects either!

best,
Andrei