Experiences - N.d.e.,dejavu,brain damage!

[MuffyMuff]

hi everybody!swim has got few question & he hope someone can answer.
1)after 1/2 g of mdma & 1/2 g of k, that friend was tripping hard and then he had a dejavu. Swim conviced himself that at the end of the scene (at the end of dejavu)he would be dead. infact when the last frame disappeared, swim told himself"ok now i'm dead". Then he felt like someone was picking him up, and he landed in another world that luckly was more near from reality.
so swim's question is "can we call this experience a near death exp?".swim tell me that he didn't see any black tunnel or light , but he was really sure that he was died.
2)are dejavu common in k experience? swim often gives to dejavu some misterious meaning (like"this is what i saw when i was born so i must die now that i'm seeing it again")
3)a friend of swim told him that he must not be scared of k becouse k was projected to be a pharmaceutical, so k works for a determinate time and then you always come out of the trip. on the contrary lsd is more unmanageable and there's more chance to fuck your brain. Is that true?


sorry for the language...swim hopes you can understand what he mean.
thank you!

[Paracelsus]

I'm not sure if I perfectly understand what SWIM went through, but that doesn't sound like a deja vu to me. A deja vu (French for "already seen" or "seen before") is when you have the false impression that an event you just observed already happened in the past, exactly as it just happened (i.e. a false sense of familiarity). Deja vu's happen and are not serious, as far as I know.

I'm not too familiar with near-death experiences, so I can't give a verdict on that one.

Regarding safety, ketamine is used medically in doses that are higher than those used recreationally, and is generally safe in those doses. Which basically means that acute recreational use of ketamine is usually safe and that impressions of death are just that - impressions. Chronic use of ketamine is another story. Psychological ddiction, weird though patterns, etc.

[Panthers007]

While the dosage of ketamine may be within safe parameters - the 1/2gm of MDMA is above and beyond what could be considered a recreational amount. One of the symptoms/experiences that manifest on overdoses of MDMA is the impression one has been there before. One is rolling up the car window. Then one is seeing oneself rolling up the car window in the past. Then one is rolling up the car window. Rather like a Mobius strip - like traveling back in time repeatedly to the same event that is about to take place. This is toxicity - not a typical MDMA(or ketamine) response.

[VitaminK22]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

While the dosage of ketamine may be within safe parameters - the 1/2gm of MDMA is above and beyond what could be considered a recreational amount. One of the symptoms/experiences that manifest on overdoses of MDMA is the impression one has been there before. One is rolling up the car window. Then one is seeing oneself rolling up the car window in the past. Then one is rolling up the car window. Rather like a Mobius strip - like traveling back in time repeatedly to the same event that is about to take place. This is toxicity - not a typical MDMA(or ketamine) response.

ohhhh thats wot that is? Swim has had a sense that his brain is going in a loop when he has taken xtc and ket together, for example, swim took like 8 xtc pills within a 5 hour gap, then started on the ket and when he first started to feel the trippy effects of the ket, swim felt like his trips were going nowhere and time had stopped, his trips were exactly the same for some amount of time, swim doesnt know how long because it was like time had stopped, so it could have been 1ms or 1 hour.
Swim has also had a massive dejavu trip where he was like the creator of the universe and he was making new worlds, all the worlds he made were all familiar, like he remembers them from a dream or somethin.

errrr toxicity sounds like a bad thing, does this mean swim will have to see a doctor
lol, but seriously, can it cause any real harm??