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Old 07-04-2008, 22:23
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Experiment advice needed

SWIM has been testing the effects of Grapefruit Juice on opiates (specifically Norco tablets)for the past week with what seems like some considerable success, but in an effort to lessen any possible placebo effect tainting the experiments SWIM has devised the following method.
SWIM purchased 14 (at 25 cents US each) small round toy containers from a local supermarket vending machine (I’m sure the clerks thought SWIM was some weirdo middle aged man with a little plastic ring fetish! – SWIM is also sure that the long rain coat, false beard and sun glasses didn’t help either ). SWIM plans on (now this is the part SWIM needs help with) creating 14 parachutes – with 7 containing 5mg of Hydro (crushed Norco) and 7 containing something of a similar weight and feel.
SWIM will mark the bottom of each container as either H or P then place either the Hydro or Placebo in a marked container. Each day for a week SWIM will draw a container and consume the contents along with following the same GFJ dosage at the proper time (same times and amounts each day). SWIM will then like to place the empty containers in some manner that would allow SWIM to know on which day it was used (without looking at it or being able to tell if it was H or P). Along with that SWIM will try to follow the same diet and activity patterns each day, all the while recording (keeping a log) any perceivable effects of the dosing. In this way SWIM hopes to be able to tell if any effects of potentiating by GFJ is either a real effect or just a placebo reaction.

Could any or the very sharp posters on this site be able to spot any holes in SWIM’s plan? Any suggestions at all? Also any suggestions on what should be used in the Placebo Parachutes?

Thanks so much and SWIM looks forward to sharing any and all results of this test with our community.

MODS - please forgive me for not adding this to the sticky as I am hoping to get more exposure with a new thread. If this could be moved or merged at a later date that would be great!

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p.s. SWIM is not this poster just someone this poster may know – this poster would never be caught dead at a grocery store children’s toy vending machine in a raincoat, beard and sunglasses!!
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Old 07-04-2008, 22:30
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Re: Experiment advice needed

Sounds good since you dont know when you are taking the placebo. Since vicodin has a bunch of acetominophen in it, tylenol would probably be good for the placebo.
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Re: Experiment advice needed

SWIM's not sure that this experiment can test that. SWIY really needs a way to not know if SWIY has had the GF juice or not. That is to say, if SWIY takes the placebo and feels something, it would confirm the placebo, but if SWIY takes the placebo and feels nothing, it would neither confirm or deny that SWIY is actually feeling something when the Nor and GF were combined.

How SWIY would sneak itself GF juice, SWIM does not know, but that's really what must be done. SWIY will feel the effects of the Nor every day, and if it feels stronger after the GF, but you didn't know SWIY had GF juice, then you could say it likely did. If it felt stronger after drinking the placebo and the GF juice, or did not change after taking either the juices, then SWIY would know it was placebo effect. Does that make sense? It doesn't always to SWIM when he talks, lol.
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