7 stars, Wasn’t the same..

[dj_c]

Okay so on NYE I was at a party, I snorted a gram of coke and drank a shitload of alcohol, I was feeling fucked but knew that no way would I last longer than 2.30am (Tooklast of my coke ataround 1am). So I give a friend a call as I knew he'd be pilling round his flat and most likely have some pretty good shit going on down there, 2 days before NYE I spent the night there and took 2 white stars.. Had a fantastic night, talked shit all night and felt so damn at ease, was still just talking shit when I started coming down, went home and slept, felt fine next day.. Anyways that was a couple of days before.


I've been doing pills for about 6 months now, normally will drop about 3 per night and that will do me. Anyways.. back to NYE..


I goto this guys flat and meet up with a couple of friends who had been in town clubbing before hand, who had the same idea as me.. didn't want the night to end so early with the opportunity of pilling all night to do keep going. Arrived at the flat at i'd say about 2am (ish). I was still feeling quite pissed but the coke was starting to wear off, normally I would get through a pack of 20 ciggies easily when pilling me nut off but only had a few left (coke and beer also make me smoke too much).


Anyways the dealer arrives at the flat, and I bought 5, gave 2 to 1 friend, 1 to another and had 2 for myself.. I single dropped, and was coming up within 20 minutes of being there, I don't remember much about being at the flat or what happened there, I'm more of a person who prefers to roll indoors than goto a club, even though I didn't know most the people there, once i was up i didn't give a shit and vaguely remember just talking shit to anyone. I'm sure white stars a cut with Ket cause I didn't really have the urge to do a lot and have felt like this the 2 times before after doing stars.. But still.. a very pleasurable experience I remember sitting on the soafa rushing and all I could say was 'Yes'. Anyways.. I snorted a 3rd pill that someone was generous enough to give me, I have no idea what the time was when I did this.


All I remember next is me and my friend having a conversation while we were up, but probably already peaked, we decided we wanted to continue on through into the day, must have been about 5.30-6am as it was still dark outside, We walked miles chatting shit all the way and It was the best walk i have ever had.. it seemed like we were gone 5 minutes yet we got so much done in the time we were gone. We had left the flat to go and get some more money to buy another 10 between us to keep on going, So once we got the money, brought a paper from a garage.. and some ciggies we got a taxi back to the flat, we wrere still kinda up but starting to come down, I remember talking shit to the taxi driver all the way and he let us off a couple of quid - nice guy!


Got back to the flat at about 7.30am or so.. tried to read the newspaper but couldnt get into it, was starting to come down quite a bit. The dealer comes back and we had to wait for about 30-45 minutes until he could pick us up another 10. In the meantime he gave us both a snort each.. all this really seemed to do for me is wake me up as I was getting tired and feeling comedown.


The most pills I'd ever done before was 3.5 (stars, too) and this snort was my 4th. It wasn't long after until he picked up for us and as soon as he did we dropped again... I had a sniff of poppers and starting rushing my tits off.. however it wasn't such a nice expirience anymore, I felt a bit of anxiety and paranoia in the room, didn't say anything to anyone.. they were playing some really trippy drum'n'bass. So throughout the night I'd done 5.. I kept thinking to myself, hell if i know why.. but if i take another it will get better.. I took my 6th and it was very strange, I like.. just wanted to sit there not saying anything to anyone I was kinda loosing myself someone was talking to me and the words wasn't registering at all i was like starring straight through him.. My m8 is kinda the same as me and he told me he was having hallecinations, at one point he told me he saw a person in the room and thought she wasn't human, this kinda freaked me out..


Anyways I did it again, I was saying to myself.. if i take another surely i will be fucked and it will get getter. So I dropped my 7th, along with my m8.. and I'm sure you can guess by now, it got worse.


I did manage to goto the toilet and splash water over my face, this made me feel a little bit better but not for long.. I grabbed some water and started sipping on it, I sat down and this was the most strangest part of the expireience, my friend came and sat next to me and both at exactly the same time we kind of came out of whatever world we wee in and started talking about how we felt.


We both felt exactly the same at exactly the same time, we were saying 'I feel better now than I did about 5 minuites ago, my leg was shaking and I was saying, I kind of feel 'up' in a wierd way, he said he feels the same now.. anyways after talking I kinda lost him in the conversation I remember him saying 'Don't fuck up on me now' he was trying to explain something and i didn't understand any of it, I was loosing my mind, couldnt even register what he was saying to me and just had to sit there and ride it through..


I then sat up and after about 5 minutes, I felt a massive sort of 'Crash' - I've never felt anything like it before I just felt so shit Like i couldn't breathe, it was like I was awake but I wasn't. But in a way.. I was relieved because I was kind of coming back to sanity after the crash, I was listening in on conversations and starting to come round - first time i can honestly say I've been happy to come down.


Shortly after we left the flat.. uppon opening the door to the outside world was very strange, we'd been sat in the flat for the last 12 hours with the same people. The comedown was the worse I have ever felt, lasted about 4 days, I didn't feel 'normal' for the first 2 days and the 3rd and 4th was just total spaced out with life... I was depressed, felt like shit.. I really looked hard at my life and it made me never want to touch pills again, we had 2 left (gave the other 2 away). I took the last 2 with me and on the way home chucked them away as the comedown was so bad.


My m8 was still hallucinating on the way home, but not good hallucinating, I walked out of a shop in front of him then he walked in front of me, he turned round and didn't even think I was me but someone else and it phreaked him out.. he was actually making my comedown worse, heh. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had the same sort of expiriences as this? I think it may be something to do with when I got back to the flat, my body would be been drained and I was already starting to comedown, I'm not sure.. Only been doing them for 6 months or so.


I've not had any pills since but I don't feel half as bad now as I did up till about 2 weeks after. I'm trying to have a break for a couple of months now but am kinda finding it hard... done half a gram of coke last weekend and decided to try heroin just once, Didn't find it as good as what i'd imagined, which i'm quite thankful for, really.


Next time I roll I certainly wont be doing stars again, although I do like doing just 2 or 3 but they are very morrish. The next time I roll I want it to be more of a loved up expreience, like xtc is meant to give you... not something cut with all sorts, There are white cherries going around up here atm and i'm told they are mostly MDMA and you wont get much of a comedown, and will get the *real* loved up feeling from the MDMA, which is what I love so much, Anyone had or heard about these pills?


- Dj C

[dj_c]

Shit! Didn't realise I'd typed all that.. lol, if your as bored as I must have been i'm sure you will have a read!

[Tony Blair]

Nah, that was an interesting read, to be honest..



There is lots to type about it, but the short is: If those stars
are the original stars (i.e. Very very strong), then you would have
used pretty much all your serotonin up after the 3rd one, especially if
you'd come down.



Thus, as you found, all you get from the last 4(!) was speedy effects, and nothing too clever.



Go eat some 5htp and give it a month, and then get back to it!

[dj_c]

I've read quite a bit about 5htp, does it really work then? Where could I buy some from at a decent price?


I like to research anything before I take it, hence me signing up to this forum, I think they were original stars ive seen people talk about - very very strong, One thing i forgot to mention, the first time I took stars which was before this, And i should of thought about it before doing 7. I'd took 2.5 the first time and was totally monged out.. had felt fucking awesome! We dropped our first, then took 3 halves and felt really good, had 1 left.. dropped it.. nothing happened, just came down off the first 2 and a half and went to sleep, had some weed in the morning and felt pretty fucked all day.


Is it always the same after taking say.. the 3rd pill of the night? I've never doubled dropped before but does this intensify the effect but not last as long? So say i double dropped.. then single dropped another 2, after my fourth would it still not do anything in the way of keeping me up for longer?


Thanks for the reply m8!

[Tony Blair]

Originally Posted by dj_c

I've read quite a bit about 5htp, does it really work then? Where could I buy some from at a decent price?

Yes. Theres more than enough anecdotal evidence to tell you
so. take 100mg of 5-htp for 5 days after pilling, your brain will
thank you. And if you are going to do pills regularly, get a load
of STRONG Multi-vitamin tablets. Cheap 5-htp? Find the
"good xtc comedown" thread here..

Basically, Ecstasy uses up one hell of a lot of your serotonin, 5-htp get converted back into Serotonin.

Originally Posted by dj_c

I like to research anything before I take it, hence me
signing up to this forum, I think they were original stars ive seen
people talk about - very very strong,

Good. Keep up the research attitude The stars were very strong, especially if they were these : CLICK!

Originally Posted by dj_c

One thing i forgot to mention, the first time I took stars
which was before this, And i should of thought about it before doing 7.
I'd took 2.5 the first time and was totally monged out.. had felt
fucking awesome! We dropped our first, then took 3 halves and felt
really good, had 1 left.. dropped it.. nothing happened, just came down
off the first 2 and a half and went to sleep, had some weed in the
morning and felt pretty fucked all day.

Yep.. You're observant - well noticed.

Originally Posted by dj_c

Is it always the same after taking say.. the 3rd pill of
the night? I've never doubled dropped before but does this intensify
the effect but not last as long? So say i double dropped.. then single
dropped another 2, after my fourth would it still not do anything in
the way of keeping me up for longer?

Always the same after the 3rd? No, it depends on timings / pill strength.

Double dropping makes it MORE than twice as strong; the effect is
exponential (and I say be careful with them stars, they will floor you)

Double dropping will make you use up your serotonin faster, and make
your brain adjust on-the-fly to the effects of E quicker, so yeah,
you'll go up with a bump, have a slightly reduced peak and then come
down with a bump.




Of course, all this depends on the amount of MDMA in the pill, which
we have no way of knowing in this country. Could be 60mg, could
be 120mg. I would say those Stars are 120mg, so thats the
equivelent of double dropping something weaker anyway!




Bottom line is this: You can only have an E experience for
about 6 hours. After that, you'll only get speedy effects from
it, and following that, bad side effects!

Originally Posted by dj_c

Thanks for the reply m8!

No probs. My approach is to drop 1, then virtually double drop a
couple of hours later. You only really peak the once.



Thanks for the thanks! Take care matey