Injecting - MS Contin 30mg

[myfavoriteaccident88]

So swim just received 50 MS Contin 30mg pills. Swim also has 500ml of Acetic Anhydride.

Swim has heard from a very very old junkie that this is the best way to turn the pills into heroin. And swim is a chemist, and it seems like it works! But hasnt tried it yet, heres what swim will try doing.


1- get your ms pill,
2- take the colour off it,
3- crush in spoon, add equal amount of baking powder
4- add weeee bit of water
5- gently heat over stove element till sorta 'orange'
6- remove from stove element
7- add 5-6 drops of AA
8- wrap this up in tin foil
9- put in oven and bake at 80C until swiy cant smell the AA.
10 remove tinfoil
11 add water,
12 return to gentle heat over stove element,
13 voila, add filter, suck, blast, enjoy!



Basically when u add water and baking soda to the MS contin, ur turning the morphine sulphate into morphine freebase. Then you heat the mass to remove the water. Now you add the Acetic Ahydride to the morphine freebase. After heating, this of course makes Heroin acetate. Then after evaping the AA, you add water to get a mix of Heroin Acetate, and basically vinegar. Filter, and slam... perfect and easy!

[samuraigecko]

Since baking powder and baking soda are already known not to bond with the morphine molecule then one cannot see how this would work.

Isnt this basically the same recipe SWIyou already posted as the homebake?

BTW SWIyou owe me $10,000 remember . . . . LOL

One can acetylate Morphine sulphate without having to release it from being a salt form first.

Hope this has been of help

[myfavoriteaccident88]

wait what!... baking soda (sodium bicarbonate will definatly get rid of the sulphate part of the morphine, ive never read anything that says it wouldnt. Can swiy give a little info on that?

Also swim has NEVER heard of morphine sulphate being able to acetylate without being freebase, does swiy have an article or anything to prove this?

If it was true it would be amazing.

[samuraigecko]

any form of morphine can be acetylated in both positions 3 and 6 in pretty much any state, even as a salt. Since the bonding acts with the 3-hydroxyl group and 6-hydroxyl group in the morphine molecule when acetylating then being either a sulphate or HCl salt makes no difference.

If one were to acetylate pisitions 3 and 6 in morphine sulphate then one would assume that the result would be Diacetylmorphine Sulphate rather than Diacetylmorphine Hydrochloride.

From another forum
"..to get H you need to turn the two hydroxy (OH) groups into acetyl groups by using 1 part M with 1 part acetic anhydride (which smells like pickles and gives you away to authorities, from what I've read), or 1 part M to 2 parts acetyl chloride (better choice, cheap, but still may be suspicious).

M already comes as a "salt" within the tar--it has a positive charge, while the counter ion (balancing negative charge to give a neutral salt) molecule is called meconate (meconic acid minus one hydrogen, giving it a neg. charge). At neutral pH (7) M should definitely be in the meconate salt form in the tar. Since pharmaceutical companies always give you salts in the pills (hydrocodone bitartrate, oxycodone hydrochloride, morphine sulphate, and codeine phosphate) this seems the most logical option to me...."

So it seems that by using an aqueous solution with the addition of acetyl chloride one may be able to achieve DiaMorphine Hydrochloride from any Morphine salt. Especially if it is already present as a Morphine HCl which one does not think is common (please correct if wrong).

One does stand corrected about one point SWIyou made though, which is a part of what SWIyou said which one misunderstood. NaHCO3 can release the sulphate but it also needs an ion exchange. One is not quite sure how this works just yet so he may have prematurely enunciated. LOL. Sulphates however are quite easily removed from Morphine by reverse basing. Example: Using Calcium carbonate to re-basify the Morphine and thus freeing it from the salt form. from here an acetate is easily made with the use of acetic andrahyde or another salt can be obtained by using acetyl chloride in an aqueous solution which will of course produce a hydrochloride. The end result of the latter would be Diamorphine HCl.

Reverse basing would work slightly differently that what SWIyou have described. To reverse base one must again precipitate the Morphine from its bond as a salt. Calcium carbonate is the most useful medium for this as Morphine actually does bond to the calcium carbonate structure to form calcium Morphinate (true morphine base). This would work by firstly dissolving the salt form in an aqueous solution and then precipitating the morphine molecule out of said solution via the way described. The reason why one misunderstood what SWIyou said about the Sodium Bicarbonate is because Morphine does not bond to sodium bicarbonate to form sodium morpinate.

This is where the misunderstanding took place because what SWIyou are describing is using the sodium bicarb to release the sulphate and not bond to the morphine right?

One will look a little more into this though because ones understanding of this was a little different and it has now become quite interesting.

Hope some of this has helped.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by myfavoriteaccident88

Basically when u add water and baking soda to the MS contin, ur turning the morphine sulphate into morphine freebase. Then you heat the mass to remove the water. Now you add the Acetic Ahydride to the morphine freebase. After heating, this of course makes Heroin acetate. Then after evaping the AA, you add water to get a mix of Heroin Acetate, and basically vinegar. Filter, and slam... perfect and easy!

sorry for the back to backs there, just trying to help one and another understand this lil thing. The part in which one made bold does seem to indicate that baking soda is indeed the precipitant SWIYou are suggesting. This is not the case, Morphine will not bond to sodium bicarb, but it will bond to Calcium carb when performing reverse basing.

One believes that the sulphate can be seperated from the morphine using bicarb but this is done with an ion exchange using gas phasing methods. It seems more logical and easier just to dissolve the salt itself and precipitate the morphine with something known to bond with the morphine structure (namely calcium carbonate). Perhaps SWIY can try both precedures and let the swimmers know. Meanwhile one will continue to research this particular thing to see if he can substantiate anything else for SWIY

Peace