Buprenorphine is a MIRACLE

[alanp007]

Hey all.


Im new to this forum. Ive been on and off of shooting heroin for the past couple years, lately it has been getting really bad (doing 150-200 dollars a day, here thats about 2-3 grams a day) and the withdrawls are terrible. One of my friend gets these buprenorphine pills, theyre orange and I can get half of one from him for 5 dollars. They are GREAT, let me tell you. I know its dangerous to shoot pills, but this is what I do : I wait until I start to feel kind of sick, and I break the half pill in half, and crush a half up into the spoon, add 90 units of water, cook it, stir it, add about another 20 units (because some evaporates), stir it some more, draw it up and shoot it, then i do the other half right after that. You wont get any rush, but you do get a good buzz off of it , and it will last more than enough time. You can do it in the morning and feel it way into the night (your pupils will STILL be pinpoint 18 hrs. later). The best part is, you can be coming off of doing 2 grams a day, and do this maybe 2 or 3 days in a row, and you will have little to no withdrawls. Some side effects are, though, if you ARE on H, you will start withdrawing hardcore instantly, and if you try to dosome Hthe day you do some bup. or the day after, it will NOT WORK, it is a waste of shit (if ur trying to get off the shit tho, theres no point to doing H, it will just make you addicted again right away.) This is just a little tip for anyone who is pretty addicted to H and doesnt really want to just jump to methadone addiction (cuz its worse, shit how it is worse). I found that it works ok for me, it helps alot if u cant get H and u want to quit feeling sick. There are a list of doctors that prescribe it at the mental health site , its like buprenorphine.samhsa.com or something like that (im not sure.) anyhoo, its just a tip, its working great for me right now, hopefully ill be off H soon

[Silver Fox]

DON'T INJECT TABLETS - it's a REALLY STUPID thing to do!!

Buprenorphine / Subutex is designed to be taken SUBLINGUALLY - that is, you stick it under your tongue, and it is absorbed through the mucous membranes and straight into your veins. It is a very rapid form of uptake, WITHIN MINUTES; it is simply not worth the risk or the hassle of cooking and shooting up!

Yes, buprenorphine is a great drug. As you have noticed, it you use it within 36-48 hrs of using heroin or any other opiates, it displaces these opiates from the receptors in the body, and will put you into instant cold-turkey. If you are not prescribed buprenorphine, or do not use it regularly, you need to wait until you are in active withdrawal before you use it.

STICK IT UNDER YOUR TONGUE.
Don't swallow it, as the stomach acids will destroy it and it won't work, you will have wasted that dose.
Don't inject it; it has very rapid onset when absorbed sublingually and it is not worth the risk - you don't get a hit off it, and it's simply dangerous.

For more info about how it works, see my reply to 'Subutex without meth?' submitted by hyperchronic.

Silver Fox

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A life saving post,most commendable

[Jon_F]

The orange bupes are suboxone which is buprenorphine with narcan, which if injected should throw you into severe withdrawl. Hell, I take the SL and if 1 dissolves too fast you don't get the full effect because the narcan overides the drug. That is why those were designed to not be able to be injected. Although the Subutex (which are not orange by the way) can be injected as I hear the ae having a problem with those in Europe. In a bupe detox?maintenance program take home prescriptions are usually the Suboxone. Not calling you a liar, I just think it is very hard to believe.

[Eirias]

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I have seen both Subutex (white oval/footbal-shaped tablets) and
Suboxone (orange 6-sided heaxgonal tablets) on the "street" that were
presumably diverted from patients receiving treatment, as they were not
the analgesic/painkiller forms of buprenorphine (i.e. Buprenex,
etc.). If a patient is allergic to the naloxone in Suboxone, then
they often are given treatment just with Subutex and are supervised in
thier intake of the meds for awhile longer than those who are taking
Suboxone.

A female friend of mine reluctantly went on Suboxone to stop
using heroin (she was very fearful of stopping and potentially
experiencing extreme cravings and withdrawl symptoms), and has been
clean for over 2 months now. Granted, she didn't use heroin for
all that long or in really high doses, and she insufflated/snorted her
dose rather than IV'd it, but she has had few if any cravings,
experienced only the slightest withdrawl symptoms, and is thoroughly
thankful that circumstances allowed her to quit using heroin and begin
to move forward again within her life.

As a skeptic from witnessing people get habituated to methadone
upon trying to do a taper/detox with it, and knowing people who had
relapsed after attempting to stay clean with opiate antagonists such as
ReVia, I was not expecting her to have such excellent results with an
opioid agonist/antagonist combo like Subutex as she did! I at
least thought that even if she had any reduced withdrawl symptoms, that
she'd still have strong cravings for heroinl, and would cease taking
the Suboxone once she was on a take-home dosing regimen. I am
truly impressed at how much she was able to avoid the horrors of opiate
withdrawl syndrome, and additionally surpass any cravings on her road
to recovery!

It's great that we have at least one more tool to help people get off opiates safely, compasionately, and humanely.

[Eirias]

BTW, if you have no morphine-like, sigma-receptor agonist
opiates in your system, then naloxone should not affect the metabolism
of the buprenorphine in the Suboxone tablets. That is, naxolone
is only an antagonist to certain moprhine-related opiates (like
morphine, heroin, codeine, oxy- and hydrocodone, oxy- and
hydromorphine,etc.), and not to several synthetic opioids (including I
believe methadone, propoxyphene aka Darvon, merperidene aka Demerol,
Nubain, LAAM, and buprenorphine). Thus, a person with no opiates
in their system and no opiate tolerance should be able to experience
euphoria from Suboxone, since the nalaxone won't antagonize the
buprenorpine's metabolism.

The naloxone in Suboxone is their to discourage abuse of the
tablets amongst already-established habitual opiate users, since
presumably most individuals who would IV an opiate tablet like Suboxone
would be already chronically using other opiates such as heroin.
If a habituated heroin user goes far enough into withdrawl as to
eliminate most of the heroin or morphine or whatever from their system,
then a tablet containing buprenorphine, with or without naloxone
present and taken by any route of administration, would serve to
attenuate and thus reduce some of the subjective withdrawl
symptoms. This has been verified by anectdotal reports I have
heard firsthand from individuals whom I am personally close with whom
are long-term habitual opiate users, and should also serve to explain
how the author of this thread topic could successfully be able to use
Suboxone (and not just Subutex) to alleviate withdrawl symptoms even
via IV'ing the tablets.



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