Ketamine in the wake of E/MDMA

[Conkermon]

I also posted this in the Ketamine folder but I guess it is equally appropriate to put it here, plus this forum is more active

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SWIM has always had a problem after taking E/MDMA where he vomits. A few hours after taking the first pill he begins to feel ill and usually vomits at some point.

SWIM is going to a rave soon and it's a relatively long coach ride away, he was wondering if he attained some Ket how likely is it that taking K on the coach back will nullify his sickness and make him feel less grimey on the journey home?

SWIM is aware that mixing any drugs is risky, is a very experienced E/MDMA user but has never taken K (although he will before the rave).

Alternatively, how would taking K at the rave be? He is aware that many clubbers do take K in the clubs and was wondering if only taking periodic bumps he would have an enjoyable time? Although everyone has a different experience, some opinions would be very much appreciated.

[podge]

Check out the thread on kitty flipping ( search "mdma ketamine" in the forum search engine or look through the combinations section ) to find out more about mixing K and MDMA - it can be very powerful.

Swim would advise swiy try K on its own first before mixing it with MDMA, just to get a feel for the experience, swim thinks K is far more powerful than MDMA so there isnt really a need to mix it. Swim wouldnt take it at a rave unless it was small bumps at a time, wouldnt fancy k-holing in that sort of enviroment, swim prefers taking it solo when in bed. But everybody is different.

[Conkermon]

Thanks for the informative reply mate, "kitty flipping" lol there is a name for everything drug related. Cheers.

[Lettish]

Originally Posted by podge

Check out the thread on kitty flipping ( search "mdma ketamine" in the forum search engine or look through the combinations section ) to find out more about mixing K and MDMA - it can be very powerful.

Swim would advise swiy try K on its own first before mixing it with MDMA, just to get a feel for the experience, swim thinks K is far more powerful than MDMA so there isnt really a need to mix it. Swim wouldnt take it at a rave unless it was small bumps at a time, wouldnt fancy k-holing in that sort of enviroment, swim prefers taking it solo when in bed. But everybody is different.

Swim agrees with Swip. Swiy should try Ket in a small dose on its own in a safe environment first. Swim did this recently and is so glad he did because a few weeks later, Swim's friend wanted him to do a line of Ket on an E comedown, but because Swim knew what Ket was like, Swim refused. Swim nearly buckled from constant pressure to do it, but because Swim knew what Ket did to him the first time, he stayed strong and refused. Swim thinks if he would have done a line of Ket when pressured, he would've gone really deep into K-Hell.

Swim recommends, if Swiy wants to do Ket in a club, do it in very small doses so Swiy is not completely Ketamised. Swiy doesn't want that paranoia and anxiety in that environment, trust Swim.

Hydroxy

[incognitosheep]

Just remember that ket can be very overpowering sometimes.

In small doses, SWIY will feel slightly off-balance, and at higher doses, SWIY will probably not want to even move!

SWIM has never understood the whole k-in-clubs thing.

[johno.]

K is definitely not a club drug IMO. But if you did want to do both on the one night, doing K first would be your best bet. Few bumps of K, eat a pill about 10 mins later. The K will hit u pretty much instantly and last about half an hour or so, so the pill should kick in as the K wears off. That's been my recent strategy anyway

[radiometer]

I can't possibly see recommending ketamine to help with post-MDMA nausea. What about ketamine is suggesting itself as an anti-nausea drug to you?

Perhaps try some ranitidine (Zantac)? My buddy Eddie was once lured by the apparent popularity of taking ketamine on the comedown MDMA, but he tried a couple small snorts and didn't like the disorienting feeling. It interfered with what he had been gatting fomr the MDMA trip. YMMV. Eddie thinks this combo is attractive to those who like to feel "fucked up" in a somewhat unsophisticated manner.

[Boe !]

The comedown from MDMA or LSD being in a relaxed surrounding (chillout area at a psychedelic party) is a perfect situation for using ketamine.