What is your favourite piperazine research chemical?

[Alfa]

Please describe why you value this piperazine research chemical the most, what dose SWIY took and what duration and effect it had on SWIY.

[plan9fromoutaspace]

bzp on it´s own by far the best. Side Effects are minimal, while lab monkeys suffered temperature fluctations and skin problems from tfmpp. When exposed to mcpp one monkey was so scared that he was hiding under a blanked and shivering. If that monkey could speak he´d say "disgusting" for shure. Another one was running in circles and was looking weird, and was clearly halluzinating. And that with a small test dose of about 10 mg.
But that just as a side note.
Bzp was well tolerated, although doses above 150 mg made the monkeys nervous and cracy, while dosages under 100 mg provided them with a more calm state, which had clearly antidepressent atributes.
We even taught the monkeys to snort the substance, which seemed to provoke a short cocaine like rush which turned into just stimulation after 10 minutes.
Duration of bzp was, when no mega dosages were taken, exactly 6 hours, sleep was no problem, sometimes light, with wakeups in between.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Good input on piperazines.
	good experience post - the experience of the lab monkeys of course

[vcdman]

My pet cat really enjoys BZP. In doses around 150-200mg (sometimes with perhaps 50-100mg top up after 1.5hrs) all ingested orally.

It gives more euphoria than amphetamine yet the mind is still rather clear.

My pet cat can spend the time talking/socializing or be just as content to do odd jobs around the house.

Duration tends to be about 5hrs before the crash which lasts perhaps 1.5 hrs then just some lethargy...

After 8hrs sleep my pet cat function well the next day.

My pet cat enjoys this chem because he can have some and go out to a street market or something similar and really have a ball.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Good input on piperazines.

[Pino]

1. BZP (100-200 mg) - Just a fine stimulant with an serotonin edge. Good working material, seems to be not addicting until now.
2. pFPP (20 - 60 mg) - From a small mdma like euphoria to strong euphoria with kinda psychedelic edge. Causes sleeplessness, but doesn't stimulate one extremely. Long duration 15 hours seems to be normal. That is the real downside to swim. The long duration.

Swim is getting a batch of meopp soon, so he will elaborate on it. Maybe the list changes then.