Bolts Review

[Euphoric]

SWIM tried bolts a couple of days ago. SWIM and a friend took one each. One consists of:
Standardized nutmeg extract, synthetic equivalent of piper nigrum extracts, 1-bezylpiperazine (200mg), dicalcium phosphate magnesium sterate.

Pills were taken at around 8:45pm. SWIM and friend watched the simpsons and family guy. At around 10pm SWIM started to feel different, lighter, happier. The come up was quite smooth. He and friend walked to a store to get juice. Came back and watched TV a little longer. At about 10:30 SWIM and his friend got invited to another friend's house. SWIM is very chatty and over the roughly half hour walk there, the two talk a bunch, and SWIM feels pretty good. It's around 11pm when they arrive. They shoot the shit with a few familiar people. SWIM is still feeling high and good.

They go to a rooftop, where they talk and observe people on the street and everyone but SWIM is drinking alcohol. SWIM sticks to juice and water. His mouth is very dry, which is unpleasant but expected. Around midnight friends of friends arrive. SWIM doesn't feel as chatty anymore, and maybe a little uncomfortable, but still quite good. He is getting spaced out sometimes and listening more than participating in conversations. The group including SWIM went out to a bar for an hour or so. SWIM got pretty bored there. Wasn't really feeling social or high enough to sit there with a stupid grin on his face, so he just sat there and observed others. It was around four am when SWIM and his friend arrived back at the place of residence. They both took a gravol and went to bed. SWIM woke up often, probably hourly to pee. He managed to sleep, but sometimes after he awoke he felt his heart was beating pretty fast.

No hangover the next day, perhaps a little more tired than usual. The pills are definitely not worth the monetary price in SWIM's opinion, and the health risks still seem to be unclear. Probably wouldn't bother repeating the experience, though he has liked bzp/tfmpp combos in the past so he's not ruling out piperazines entirely, but probably no more bzp on it's own. The stimulation and euphoria were quite light, and the dry mouth quite heavy. in SWIM's opinion.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Thanks for sharing, good report. I hadn't heard of this combination jet.

[Pino]

Swim can imagine that the combination nutmeg + bzp will result in a really dry mouth. Nutmeg itself causes dehydration. It has also some stimulatory effects on the cns, like tachycardia. The majority of the people don't like the effects of nutmeg -including swim-.

In swims experience the BZP alone causes some dry mouth, but not overly. Just chewing some gum and sipping some water once in a while will fix it.
On low dosages it has the same effects as dextroamphetamine ISHO (100 mg bzp ~ 7.5 mg dextroamphetamine) . It has somewhat more glitches (less concentration etc). In the range 50-250 mg, it doesn't give swim a terrible dry mouth -at >200 mg it is more pronounced, but still not very dry-. Swim never tried higher dosages, because 200 mg is too much in swims opinion.
Nutmeg on its own causes a really uncomfortable dry mouth.

Another thing about nutmeg is, that it's alkaloids first has to be metabolized to be effective. The onset can be 2 hours or more. This can account for the the turning point in swiys experience around midnight. Around that time the nutmeg probably kicked in.

Swim doesn't think the bzp is the evildoer here, swim suspects nutmeg more. Swim thinks it is best to avoid bolts. Nutmeg doesn't appear to swim to be a party drugs.

Anyways, interesting report. Thanks for sharing.

[Euphoric]

SWIM suspects the amount of nutmeg would be negligible though, considering the size of the pills and the other ingredients. SWIM thought that recreational doses of nutmeg powder were over one gram. SWIM has weighed a red devil pill which are very close in size to Bolts, and it was only 460mg. Assuming bolts are the same weight, and 200mg of that is bzp, plus some other stuff, there isn't much room for nutmeg, probably no more than would be used in food. That being said, SWIM thought that when it comes to ingredient listing, it's supposed to be in order of the amount present per ingredient (SWIM listed them in order as they were on the package), which would mean nutmeg is the primary ingredient. Perhaps the nutmeg is actually nutmeg extract. Maybe someone else knows or is willing to do the research, but the net is painfully slow right now, so it will have to wait.

[Thirdedge]

Originally Posted by Euphoric

That being said, SWIM thought that when it comes to ingredient listing, it's supposed to be in order of the amount present per ingredient (SWIM listed them in order as they were on the package), which would mean nutmeg is the primary ingredient.

Perhaps the nutmeg is actually nutmeg extract. Maybe someone else knows or is willing to do the research, but the net is painfully slow right now, so it will have to wait.

That applies to foods, not London Underground legal highs.

The nutmeg is claimed to be standardized extract.

[Pino]

Swim missed something. Synthetic equivalent of Piper nigrum extracts can be anything from tfmpp to meopp or something completely different. The exact formula can probably only be know by analysis. It probably isn't pure bzp, however swim shouldn't try bzp in swiys case again or maybe you could, but only in lower dosages like >100mg.