OxyIR vs. OC

[Oxychick]

Swim can get a really really nice high from snorting about 20mgs of OC but 20mgs of OxyIr does absolutely nothing. Why would that be? They are both being crushed into very fine powder so I know that's not the problem.

[mattprice]

swim thinks that it has to do with the route of administration. When the OC is insufflated, it is absorbed through the mucus membrane, and is often more rapid and complete than gastrointestinal absorption (swallowing).

[Oxychick]

Swim is sorry for not being more clear. Both the OC and the OxyIR are administered the same way.

[MrJim]

I know people aren't used to this, but can you please use the full pharmeceutical name for all drugs mentioned. This is an internantional forum and confusion arises any other way. Do not say Oxy, OC, Oxycontin. Say Oxycodone - then describe the specifics of the pill - ie it's dosage and whether it is an instant release or sustained release. Pill manufacturers differ from country to country, but the true drug name remains constant.

[Laudaphun]

SWIM can think of no reason for 20mg oxycodone to have an effect in one case and none in the other. Are you sure that the OxyIR (instant release) are real? All the OxyIR brand (oxycodone) pills as well as generic come in capsules that someone could easily take the real goodies out and replace with something not so good... at least with the ones containing powder instead of beads. They could even open the pill, remove 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever and either leave it light or add filler.

If SWIY is sure that the source is legit, has SWIY tried both named brands as well as generic? Or do they have beads inside the capsule rather than powder? Does SWIY have experience using various oxycodone pill preparations? Someone stealing SWIY capsules that have been tampered with is the only thing SWIM can think of... if that is not the case then SWIM wouldn't even know where to look next.

[canecat5-325]

SWIM is on oxyir 5 mg and will sniff 5-10 to them and its not near as good as taking a oc 40 so there is something to that

[Laudaphun]

10 of those would be a ton of powder.... I'd imagine much more would run down your throat and end up absorbing through the stomach than through the nasal cavities (or whatever the proper term for the area containing the veins where insufflated substances absorb). I would think that the more that ran down the throat, the more it would spread absorption out... meaning some absorbs through the nose, and then a little bit later some runs down to the stomach which would take longer to absorb.

SWIM is on oxyir 5 mg and will sniff 5-10 to them and its not near as good as taking a oc 40 so there is something to that

You gave swim an idea, swim remembers those oxy IR 5mg (oxycodone) capsules contained a lot of powder considering they were only 5mg of active ingredient. Oxycodone is pretty soluable, but a lot of the filler would not be. If someone had some oxyirs lying around that they didn't need immediately, an extraction could be done to separate out some of the filler, resulting in a much smaller pile of powder to snort or less at least. Swim will try that someday when he runs into those little IRs again. It's just an idea, perhaps a good one, maybe not.

Swim used to inject a certain brand of IR by basically doing just this. He'd put 10mg in a spoon (which was a lot of powder). After adding a syringe full of water plus a tiny bit more, the powder would completely absorb all the water, however swim was able to absorb the water back out of the pseudo-slurry with a piece of cotton (most of it anyways). Given the amount of powder and the 1cc syringe, swim really couldn't get more than 10mg in one shot. Swim was able to do that with only 1 of the 3 brands of oxyIR brands he'd tried. But swim is certain that the injection was equal to a 10mg oxycontin (oxycodone) injection so that was a easy way to extract the oxycodone from all the filler. If one was so inclined, they could merely evaporate the water and snort it. It shouldn't take too long to evaporate 1mL of water.

Remember this was only one particular brand and is partially theory based on what swim remembers from past experience. Swim's not sure if it would work with other brands. It would be kind of like a miniature CWE except you wouldn't necessarily need cold water since you would jsut be trying to get rid of the insoluable fillers to make less material for snorting.

[weekender2]

SWIM has had no great amount of luck with the instant release Oxycodones either (at the risk of pill identification, these were the really little orange ones). He'd have thought there'd be no difference between four of those and the name brand 20mg Oxycodone (brand name Oxycontin) that he loves so much. Not only were they not particularly powerful, but my lab rat reports that his nasal passages were redolent with orange goo that he was still expelling the next day. If SWIM ever got a hold of them again he'd probably crush and administer bucally, which he's had a lot of success with in the past.

Moderators, feel free to edit out the pill ID info if you think it inappropriate.

Pax,
Weekender

[OzzBozz]

Hmm
the blue a/215 generic roxicodone 30 mg's are godly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SWIM love those things more than OC40's!!!!

Has SWIY tried the terrible plain white; score mark on one side 30mg oxycodones... they feel liek there only 10 or 11 mg's of oxy said a laughing crab!