DOB

[geordie]

i have some DOB but to be honest i dont quite like the sound of having to deal with the effects for 36 hours. Dont get me wrong, i want to experiance it but 36 hours? that has to be tooo much for anyone. it comes in 2mg doses and i was just wondering if anyone out there had tried this chemical at this dose or there about and could tell me what it was like?
cheers

[Ximot]

from erowid:

Threshold0.2 mg
Light0.2 - 0.75 mg
Common0.75 - 1.75 mg
Strong1.75 - 2.5 mg
Heavy2.5 - 3.5 mg
Overdose3.5 + mg

Caution :Reactions and experiences may vary dramatically from person to person.

DOB Duration Oral
Total Duration 7 - 17 hrs
Onset& nbsp;30 - 90 mins
Coming Up60 - 90 mins
Plateau 3 - 8 hrs
Coming Down3 - 8 hrs
After Effects4 - 8 hrs
Hangover / Day After - - -

CONTRA-INDICATIONS
DOB can be quite harmful at high doses. Significant overdoses can cause serious vasso-constriction of the extremeties...possibly resulting in nerve damange and/or gangrene. There are unconfirmed reports of two people who accidentally ingested 75mg (over 30x the regular dosage) and needed to have their legs amputated because their circulation had shut off and caused gangrene in their legs.

The use of DOB can be a problem for those with circulatory problems, heart ailments, glaucoma, hypertension, hepatic or renal disease, aneurism, or stroke history.

DRUG INTERACTIONS
DOB can be dangerous if mixed improperly with other drugs especially MAOI's or other liver-enzyme affecting chemicals. Mixing with stimulants is not recommended.

GHB:
For some people, GHB has little psychoactive effect during a DOB experience, though it can be used to help sleep at the end.

ALCOHOL:
There seem to be some cross-tolerance between DOB and alcohol. This means if you have been or are going to be drinking alcohol during your DOB experience, the dosage of DOB should be lower.



sounds to me like you want to be carefl with this one . . . perhaps you have a way of splitting your dose? 2mg sounds like quite a blast already.

here's shulgin's findings (note that found the duration to be longer than erowid). I wonder aboout the isomer thing though. Do you know exactly what you've got there? I've never had the chance to try it, but it seems a fascinating substance, though I'd pick my day very carefully...


DOSAGE: 1.0 - 3.0 mg.

DURATION: 18 - 30 h.

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 0.4 mg) There was a distinct enhancement of visual perception, and some strengthening of colors. A clean, cold feeling of wind on the skin. I felt an enriched emotional affect, a comfortable and good feeling, and easy sleeping with colorful and important dreams.

(with 2.0 mg) There was a continuous tremor at the physical level, and an incredible Moebius strip representation of reality at the intellectual level. I was able to enter into personal problems easily, and get out again when I chose to. During the next day, there were brief lapses of attention, or little fugue states, and it was not until the following evening that I was completely myself again.

(with 2.8 mg) About three hours into this I had a severe cramp, and had a near fainting response to the pain, and yet there was no pain! I felt that I was very near a loss of consciousness, and this was most disturbing. There were flashes of depersonalization. I saw rings around the moon with prismatic colors, and there were long-lasting "after-images" following any viewings of points of light. I was still a good plus 1 at 14 hours, but did manage to sleep. It was the next day before I was again at baseline.

(with 3.0 mg) This was a complex, but a very good day. It involved making a large pot of chicken-vegetable soup, and listening to H.L., my favorite Saturday morning fundamentalist Christian radio preacher, bless Tim. The Democrats are not exactly all anti-American dupes of Moscow (or the Devil), but to H.L., they are practically, almost, next-door to it. The Rapture is supposed to happen tomorrow according to a certain book, newly published (just in time, looks like) and he is busy softening the possible disappointment of those who may find themselves unchanged Monday morning. Wunnerful. It's been one heck of a good experiment, and I can't understand why we waited nine years to try this gorgeous stuff. Without going into the cosmic and delicious details, let's just say it's a great material and a good level.

(with 0.5 mg of the "R" isomer) I am underway, and this is a smooth intoxication. I am completely functional, but still really a plus two. I would not choose to drive a car. Not very far. I felt a rather quick dropping to a plus-one at the fifth hour, but there is a residual stimulation still the following morning.

(with 1.0 mg of the "R" isomer) By the fourth hour I am absolutely a +++ and am searching the kitchen for food. But what I eat is only so-so. There is not the introspection or intensity of 2.0 milligrams of the racemate material, but this is a rewarding place nonethless. At the 18th hour, there was some fitful sleep, with bizarre dreams. The next day I was still hungry for altered spaces, and successfully challenged the residual plus one with LSD and, as is usually the case, acid cut right through the detritus and allowed a direct shot up to a +++ again.

(with 1.5 mg of the "R" isomer) This is a +++ but it is vaguely irrational. I feel a heavy body load, but then the temperature outside is over a hundred degrees and I may not be in the best of all physical environments. I would not wish any higher dosage. There were cat-naps at the twelth hour, but most symptoms were still there at the 18th hour. A good experience. It would be interesting to compare this, some day, with 3.0 milligrams of the racemate.

(with 0.5 mg of the "S" isomer) There are no effects at all.

(with 1.0 mg of the "S" isomer) There is something warm and nice at a couple of hours into this, but I am no more than threshold, and the effects are very slight. By the fifth hour there are no longer any effects.

regarding the overdose concern by erowid above, let's hope nobody ever puts this in pills at the wrong dosage. total nightmare. if this substance were more common and many had acess to it, surely plenty of calamities would happen. all it takes is one day of being high on something else and thinking that some dob might be a good idea and accidentally mismeasuring the dose (e.g. 10mg instead of 1) . . . scary.

[Ximot]

oh, and 36 hours should be fine... if you like tripping and know yourself pretty well. After a while surely the novelty wears off and you just keep tripping as if were normal.

I mean, many people have been high on stuff non stop for a day and a night and more (where's the methheads out there?).

[Neo1]

DOB sounds like one of those substances that can be deep and rewarding
but very dangerous. I'm glad it's not available at every crack-house in
town. Surprised you found it, Geordie.



Saying that tho, DOB is one substance that I've been wanting to try for
years, ever since reding PIHKAL. Dunno, there's something about
the halogenated amphetamines that piques my interest. Not quite enough
to amputate my legs for tho



Has anyone out there tried the iodine version, DOI?

[LuvsToSmokeDust]

DOB is freak'n sweet. It feels identical to LSD, but the high lasts longer and it isn't destroyed by heat so you don't have to worrie about it getting ruined by some joker leaving it near a heater and having the person come back later saying the stuff was bunk.

[cyalume]

wow 3.5mg to overdose.. better invest in a high quality scale, you cant really eyeball doses that small