Experiences - Not too young for LSD

[suninmy_MOUTH]

That post by SWIY is closed, but SWIM wanted to put his two cents in. Hope this is not bad form in the forum... still a newbie here though. So, SWIM tripped for his first time at 13. Not only was it some of the strongest stuff he would ever get compared to future trips, but he did it with a friend after school. On a weekday!! Crazy SWIM knows. SWIM and his friend thought it would be over after a few hours and then everything would be ok. HAha, those yellow blotters! Also SWIM took two b/c that's what the dude who sold it said to do. Total asshole in retrospect! Good thing that there are forums like this where one can seek the advice of elders nowadays.

Just to finish the little story though, SWIM and his friend freaked out and tried to call SWIMs mom saying he wanted to stay over there. Managed to do that ok, but then said they were going to sleep the SWIMs friend's Dad. At like 4:30 in the afternoon. Had the music on... Hendrix and for some reason the CD was skipping right when in 'Hey Joe'... he says "I shot her...." kept doing that over and over. We were out of our minds! Not to mention intense visuals going on! Not long after, the Dad came to see what the hell was going on. Basically figured out we were on something, and SWIM's friend got a big smack across the face, then SWIM's friend's Dad called SWIMs Mom and told her to pick her son up! Was tripping balls at that point, but Mom was cool about it! Didn't really talk, and just let me hang out in the reck room to relax. Did say though that if SWIM did it again, there would be hell to pay. Well, SWIM did it about 30 more times over the next few years. Moved on to other drugs around 16-17, and now never comes across the stuff. Different circles SWIM assumes.

Wait wait, there is a point to all this. Although if SWIY checks the other forums, SWIY might understand why SWIM is rambling at high speeds now.

So SWIM wanted to say that he doesn't think SWIY is too young to do LSD. If SWIY has already done other drugs, like SWIY mentioned he had, SWIY appears to be the curious type... at least in the case of drugs. However, SWIYs raising doubts about doing it, asking for advice, shows someone who is also mature enough to understand consequences of action, and not blindly doing whatever others are doing. SWIM wasnt so careful at that age, but SWIM think it was a good thing to experiment with all sorts of drugs at a young age. For some, it gets the curiosity out of their system, and by the time high school is over, SWIY knows what he likes and doesn't, and choose a little more wisely what to do. Or even more wisely would be to not do anything at all! But that's not so easy if curiosity is coupled with an addictive personality. Plus, if SWIY did get caught doing LSD or another drug before 18, by the cops or otherwise, it SWIY will usually be lectured and then let go. When SWIY becomes an adult, there are things at risk, i.e., family, job, etc. and cops are less likely, in SWIMs localized experience to be so easy going.

So SWIM says do it with a friend or two. And if they are willing, one additional friend who doesn't do it, just to manage the situation in case of a freak out, or an adult needs to be spoken with. But not tripping and watching over people who are can be fun for a while, but impossible to relate with and hence lame after a couple hours. Get in a nice enviroment, with plenty of things to goof around with. Good music, some odd movies that would only be good on acid, and make sure SWIY have a buffer zone of a few hours longer than you expect the trip to last where you are at. Best trip ever was at a friend's furnished basement, parents gone for the weekend, and a big forest just past the back yard for crazy little excursions. SWIM found it so exciting but had deep paranoia about going outside while tripping. Feared people would see him and know instantly. Yet the woods were usually empty and full of things to get SWIM tripping out. Oh, and also in the basement were six old TVs, stacked like a pyramid, all hooked into one VCR with a little gizmo made in electronics class, and SWIM had this great video by The Orb. Everything in sequence with a non-stop mix about 60 min. SWIM is sure there are better visual aids today, but get something SWIY thinks would be nice if the room started melting...!! Well, not exactly, but SWIY will see what SWIM means.

SWIM kinda doubts anyone will read this far, but thanks if SWIY did. And for that specific SWIY, since SWIY already did shrooms, it's really not that big a difference. SWIM is sure purists and big time shroomers and acid hears will totally disagree, but SWIY has laid the ground work for what LSD would be like. If SWIY thought that was fun, go ahead a put a tab on your tongue and enjoy!

Shit SWIM is coming down now from his coke... need to write... fading... need for more coke... rising... but gonna save the rest for the weekend. Or at least try!

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by suninmy_MOUTH

Good thing that there are forums like this where one can seek the advice of elders nowadays.

As long as one's over 18 of course.

Personally I think 13 is way too young to be taking LSD. SWIY's story and the chaos involved reflects that. Perhaps it isn't so much about being able to handle it physically or mentally, although that is a factor too no doubt, it's the parental ramifications that cause the problem.

[suninmy_MOUTH]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

As long as one's over 18 of course.

Personally I think 13 is way too young to be taking LSD. SWIY's story and the chaos involved reflects that. Perhaps it isn't so much about being able to handle it physically or mentally, although that is a factor too no doubt, it's the parental ramifications that cause the problem.

SWIM agrees with the aim of what SWIY is saying, well, understand the sense of it. SWIM was trying to say in that roundabout reply, that the factors SWIY mentions... physical/mental/parental are different for all, and only SWIY could decide if he is ready. SWIM knows some ppl who were quite (holy fuck, SWIM stop ed typing at this point for about 5 min now... what the hell is that word when someone acts like an adult at a very young age? too much coke on the brain now, ugh!) for their age, who were more comfortable hanging out with people in their late teens early 20s. SWIM was not at all like that, a total immature child up to his early 20s. Which most likely added to a number of freak outs on acid, and if his constitution were different, like that of the aforementioned type, maybe he would have managed himself better. Age seems to be relative as are parents. SWIY would know best if worst case scenario parents found out. If it is off to military school, then maybe waiting till one is out of the house would be apt, if not much else than a stern lecture, might be worth the risk.

Hmm, SWIM does see another point, perhaps the main point of discouraging usage before 18. When SWIM was an early teenager, SWIM didnt feel that young, but seeing kids around now that are that age, do really seem to be.. well just kids. SWIM supposes it would be best not to encourage someone that young to do any kind of drugs. Looking back though, is was that childish, care-free attitude that made LSD, shrooms, etc, doable. Now SWIM doesnt think he would enjoy such a long state of impairment. So if SWIM didnt do it then, he might never have done it at all. Up to SWIY is that is better or not.

Originally Posted by Mona Lisa

I can see Sunniny's point in that youngsters under 18 are not as likely to be held accountable if caught.

But I still think it's inappropriate, especially as a 13 year old's brain is still developing. It's especially inapproprite for an adult to give someone underage (certainly under 16) drugs in my opinion because they should be in a position of trust.

It's a similar sort of thing when sex is involved, I feel.

True, true! Esp with this US senator Foley business, and the recent school attacks, makes you realize that kids are still vulnerable and do perhaps need a certain amount of protection.

SWIM still thinks though, in his own case at least, that he is a different and better person, than before he started doing all types of drugs, and was able at a young age to go against the protection of adults... and be a little crazy. For SWIM, that was what growing up was about and aided in developing his mind in a certain way. The way that he is today, and he wouldn't have it any other way!

Ok, time to get a little shut-eye. Apologies if SWIMs way of thinking is more reprehensible than it seems to him. Not intended to be a harmful post, just honest.

[Mona Lisa]

I can see Sunniny's point in that youngsters under 18 are not as likely to be held accountable if caught.

But I still think it's inappropriate, especially as a 13 year old's brain is still developing. It's especially inapproprite for an adult to give someone underage (certainly under 16) drugs in my opinion because they should be in a position of trust.

It's a similar sort of thing when sex is involved, I feel.