Experiences - Odd LSD - Anyone experienced something similar?

[audiocide]

A fictional account from a friend who seems to just constantly bother me about posting drug-related questions in a help and safety forum.

Recently I acquired some blotter with lots of "cut here" lines on it. Each line changed color every time it hit an intersection and while there was a pattern it was still interesting. Anyhow.

I dosed what a friend (who has access to medical grade scales) tells me should average out at around 180ug. No odd taste or anything peculiar from the get go. Come-up lasted the same, the duration was as long as expected, but a few things were funny.

Before I go into more detail I'll give you informational stuffs. I last dosed Two weeks ago. Unmeasured (by me) amount, on two squares of blotter paper. Went just as well as every other decent trip I've had since the late sixties. I acquired it from the same guy I have been for a good decade now, so I doubt he came across a bad batch.

Onto the problems. I noticed a very relaxed feeling, in that I didn't want to do much of anything. The same stomach conditions existed (a light snack - banana or other fruit and some water for company) down there, just like I've been doing for years. But I felt sedated. I noticed no difference in body load and this was in no way comparable to any "unclean" feeling trips I have had.

Another thing that shocked me was that my hallucinations were incredibly mild. This was not disappointing but just surprising, as usually I have very extreme visuals.

The intensity of the trip and the mindfuck was still there like always, but it seemed like I had a rough comedown. This has never, not even once happened to me with LSD.

So my question is, what do you think I was doing wrong that could possibly contribute most to this odd experience? I smoked a healthy amount of salvia (if one exists) a few months ago, but besides that, I have stuck to marijuana and LSD. I can think of absolutely no strange circumstances and I was in the same mood I always trip in - happy and very satisfied from start to finish.

If you have any questions please ask, I want to get to the bottom of this.

Also, if you can relate to any personal experiences of a friend (wonderful) please do, and try to... ask this friend what they thought was the problem.

I highly doubt anything besides LSD. Perhaps a certain imbalance of any specific stereoisomers of the LSD or an odd batch in general? Three friends say that this is just like all the rest, so I assume this could be a physical condition of my own?

Just whatever, thanks for the help.

--mic

[raven3davis]

The bad comedown could have been the result of a number of factors. Mind set is very important and if things are on your mind coming back to reality might blow donkey. Also what is your tolerance like? You say you stuck to lsd and weed but how often were you taking lsd? Elaborate on rough come down. Was is phsyically or emotionally rough. Even though you might not be able to think of anything that was on your mind that might have influenced the comedown, there might have been some latent feelings in your subconscious.

How long had you been up previous to this and how was your phsyical state. It really could have been a number of things.

[Pinkavvy]

so... the first question that came to mind when reading your post is how does your friend know that the blotter contains 180ug? How does his 'medical grade' tell you that a certain peice of paper contains 180ug?

You said the come on and duration was what you expected... how long? Give us numbers.

Now, of course your connection would intentionally rip you off or give you something other than lsd, but he would if he didn't know that what he received this time wasn't lsd.

All of the problems you experienced sound like common side effects of LSA.

[audiocide]

Continue the whole SWIMming trend here. Fictional, roleplaying, blah blah blah. Not me saying this.

For one, I doubt it was LSA. This reminds me of the morning glory trip, but no nausea. To elaborate...

The trip itself was very positive, I loved it. Like every other two-hit LSD trip, it lasted (for me) a total (enjoyable) time of 8-10 hours. I start to kinda ignore it after it fades out so far, so there is no real end as far as I am concerned.

Come-up took approx. 45 minutes to notice any at all, and an hour to be powerful enough not to ignore.

Physically the first the I noticed was that the normal "get up and do" kind of feeling was gone and I felt almost tired. Couldn't have slept, but I just felt physically happy with sitting, and that hasn't ever happened to me with LSD, and I've been dosing on average of 20-25 times per year for decades now save for a couple of off months.

Now I was sitting and completely enjoying the experience, I got that same connected-to-myself feeling that I always get, and that sort of in-touch ability to just know things.

But funnily enough the hallucinations were mild. They were unignorable but to a veteran such as myself they weren't too great.

However, I sampled some of this sheet before this time and got perfect, average-expectancy results.

And not to say the trip was weaker... It seemed almost more intense than the first few, but what boggles me is that I wasn't exactly "gone" in the sense of what LSD does to you in your own mind. I felt very here, but still incredibly fried.

Emotionally, nothing has been bothering me recently and I am telling you now, if there was something like that going on it would be the first thing I'd post. I first figured the effects were hindered due to a physical condition or a certain change I am not yet aware of. Do any of you believe this as a possibility?

Also, about my friend. He buys wholesale and drops onto his own sheets... Sells huge to everyone except me. We've been friends since first grade, so it may have an influence on this. He is very very careful when diluting the product to make sure that each drop holds approximately what he wants it to and puts it through some sort of test every time he stirs up a new container to make sure that he can get a decent consistency with dosage near 100ug. He told me these showed up (after measuring 20 individual doses for the sake of the product) as having an average of a little over 90ug, so I went with it.

In the past years, when he says 50ug per square and I take two, it feels just as right as it does when i take one of his 100ug squares. Now this could be placebo, but after ten years I figure I'd start to notice if he seemed incorrect, and I haven't yet which is why this alarmed me.

And finally, the come-down. After peaking for a good time I started noticing that I was very comfortable just laying down but I didn't like this and wanted to do something. So I went outside to split wood, something that can be incredibly entertaining with a hydraulic logsplitter and a psychedelic mindframe. However I kept getting frustrated at myself because first I walked out to the splitter (1/4mile away) and forgot the ATV. SO I went back and made sure it had a hitch and all, and went to get the splitter.

Then I forgot about the wood and how it was right next to the splitter anyhow. So I unhooked the splitter next to my porch and got the small-cargo trailer/bed thing. Loaded up as much wood as would fit.

Drove back and lost three logs on the way. Frustration.

And so I spent the entire duration of the planing-off-to-level splitting wood. Eventually I noticed that my frustration was silly and just gave up on thinking about it anymore.

So yeah, that's... A lot.

--mic

[raven3davis]

SWIM thinks that the bad comedown was just a result of the activities which caused your frustration. LSD as you know can extremely intensify your current state of mind so a small amount of frustration can become a serious problem when tripping on lsd. You just have to relax and go with the flow. Dont get bent out of shape over such frivolous occurances. If you begin to get frusturated about something just do something else to take your mind off of the frustration. It seems like you just let your emotions take control of you and this lead to a bad comedown. Like many SWIMs have said, the trip depends so much on your mind set. If you let yourself get frusturated during a trip your mind set will be changed and your trip can take a drastic turn for the worst. Just keep a positive mind and dont sweat the small things. peace