Combinations - 8mg DOC followed by a combo of MDA/MDMA and weed

[raven3davis]

THis is purely fition. Some guy at a club told SWIM this story. Who knows the accuracy of the following word but they are believed to be plausible

SWim gets out of school at about 1:00. He chills for a while and realized he wanted to take 8mg. He took the dose at 4:30. The first effects could be

noticed in less than an hour. While the DOC started to kick in SWIM just closed his eyes and listened to some headphones. It gradualy got more intense and by about 5:30 the walls started to have a clear reflection that changed in hues mostly of red. It lookd like another wall which was made up of different colors was forming off of my wall making it look more 3 dimensionl. About 2 hours after SWIM took the dose he started to feel it pretty good.



Unfortunately at about the 2 or so hour mark SWIM had to puke. He hadnt eaten much before which he thought might be best but then again he did down the DOC with drpepper and the doc was in vodka so maybe this mixture somehow upseted his stomach. Anyone notice that taking a solution seems to cause more nausia for some reason. Perhaps kicks in a bit faster but for some reason mixtures always upset swims stomach.

7:00

So while SWIM was puking his eyes were watering excessively. When he was done puking his whole visions was too blurry to distinguish objects from one another. SWIM looked around his back yard for a while noticing all the trees and the grass. THe grass moved in unison like a serpent. The individuality in each blade of grass was easily observed but also the concept that each piece of grass is somehow connected. Different shades of green were cast from the blades of grass and SWIM was very aware with all of his sences. He spotted a massive racoon which swiftly ran away but SWIM thought about the racoon for a long time. This racoon hides in SWIMs attic and disturbes SWIM when he tries to sleep. Sometimes it sound like the racoon is killing some other animal. SWIMs cat often wanders in the attic so SWIM was scared the racoon might have attacked his cat.



SWIM thought long and hard about that racoon, and how it ran into the woods, perhaps to tend to its children and start contributing to the cycle of the no good, garbage eating, cat hurting raccoons.

SWIM stood in his back yard for a few minutes just thinking about nature and watching the different forms of life express their inner selves, showing SWIM that they were alive and intellegent.

+3hrs 7:30

SWIM decided he should go ride his motorcycle for a little bit. SWIM does not condone this action, but this is completely fiction and only the dream of some club hopper who has a vivid imagination.

While driving the bike SWIM felt like his fate was in the motions of the clutch, the brakes and the throttle. The feeling that at any time SWIM's life could have been cut short was truly amazing. SWIM knows his abilities on a motorcycle and he did not push the limits. SWIM is an experienced rider and private roads were taken where no other cars traveled. Driving a bike makes you feel free, but when on DOC it makes you feel like you are in complete crontrol of your destiny. When SWIM pulled the throttle he felt as if the world was passing him by. He traveled through miles of road that felt like mear meteres. He passed through short rodes that felt like miles. THe driving was not difficult at all. SWIM is a great rider and the depth perception changes at this time were not so noticable.

7:45
When SWIM got home he popped in a music dvd and watched that for a bit. The television made a reflection through the whole room that had trails and breathing characteristics. Each ray reflected has a trail of its own and each trail was a different color. SWIM noticed a lot of reds blues and greens. Each tail also breathed and was constantly changing hues. The body high at this point was amazing. SWIM would compare the body sensations very similar to MDMA. Not identical, but the body sensations that DOC gives you are almost level with the intensity of the body sensations with a good dose of MDMA. SWIM was very impressed by then general euphoria and body buzz. The visuals at this point were similar to lsd in some respects but with much less vivid visuals, with much less meaning and significance.

8:45

at this time SWIMs friend drives him around town. Lights look amazing. Various colors of rays were illuminated from cars headlights and all lights were heavily moving and breathing. It got to the point where one light would change colors, and the new colors would illuninate a trail with fading hues until the trail faded away. The depth of the visuals were impressive but SWIM feels a higher dose would be required to hit that next level. SWIM was at a roaring level three still at this point.

9:45 - SWIM comes back home and he is still seing some nice tracers and breating but the visuals had lost much of their depth at this time. SWIM was doing some posting while tripping at this time so the intensity of the trip had died down signifantly. At this point if SWIM would compare it to LSD he would say the intensity stayed at about the level of 1 hit of good acid.

10:00 SWIMs friend calls him to see if he wants to go to a club. SWIM says hell yea and gets in friends car to go to the club. Before swim and friends went in the club, they were offered pills which were 130mg of a mixture of mda and mdma,in capsules.

By 11:00 when swim got the "mollys" he wasnt tripping much anymore. SWIM had been tripping for 7.5 hours but the effects were rapidly declining in the visual aspect. Minor breathing could still be seen but SWIM at this time was at a low ++. The time for SWIMs DOC trip was relivively short. Vomiting could posibly had something to do with it, or the fact that swim isnt very sensitive to somethings.

SWIM took the molly as soon as he got it and headed to the club. Swim got to the club at about 11:10 and went in the club and started hanging out with some friends. SWIM and friends were not rolling yet so they just walked around the club scoping out some chicks and whatnot. After sitting down for a while and walking around the x started to kick in. The mixture was nice. The music felt great and made SWIMs whole body tingle. Swim was ready to get down with the music and get down with some women. By the time the x had kicked in fully, by about 12:00 swim and friends started dancing with some girls. Coorination was kind of hard when grinding but managable. SWIM and friends were chatting with some ladies and asking them some questions like how old they were and such. SWIM had been dancing with this one girl for a while and was getting pretty into it but then he grabbed her friend and got inbetween then two and giving both of them some action. For a while, swim was just rolling his balls off dancing with these BEAUTIFUL women having a blast. Eventualy swim and boys parted their ways with the girls but they would meet up in the near future.

SWIM started walking around the club some more and found another hot chick. His friend was already dancing with her, but SWIM introduced himself to the girl and SWIM and friend both started dancing with her. She was beautiful, and she coukd work it. That went on for a bit and then SWIM decided to go chill on a couch.

It was probably about 1:00am at this point. Was was relaxing on the couch feeling the music. his eyes were just fluttering and he felt great surges of energy flow through his body. By this time the trip was pretty much over. Some visuals could still be seen but that may have been from the MDA. In SWIMs opinion, if he wouldnt have taken the MDMA he would have been completely down from the trip. THe X seemed to keep the trip at a low level two for about another hour.

The girls swim had been dancing with came and sat down next to him on a couch. SWIM felt very comftorable talking to his new friend about college and such, also recommending her different colleges and swims prespective on each, since he had either attended, or had friends who had attended. It wasnt like some XTC where you just cant stop talking. It was easy to talk without any anxiety and easy to carry on a meaningful conversation was far from a uncontrolable ramble from a speed tab. SWIM felt like he got to know one of the girls pretty well. Her friend asked swim if he wanted a lapdance and SWIM said "hell yea cmon girl." She said maybe later and SWIM just replied "okay." Then just before she left to go back to the dance floor she jumped on top of SWIM and gave him an incredible lapdance. OHHH WEEE> ROLLING BALLS getting a lapdance from a beautiful female. When she was done she kissed SWIM on the cheek and went back to the dance floor.

SWIM continued to talk to his other new girl friend but then their crew had to leave at about 1:30. Good byes wers said and numbers were aquired ))(maybe a round two next weekend with them!)

SWIM and his boys left the club at 2:00 and went to the warehouse where some poi was being thrown and a dj was doing some mixing. SWIM was still rolling but the visuals from the DOC were gone. The MDMA/MDA did seem to kick in the body sensations from the DOC though. Swims body felt great and he felt as if he was experiencing the afterglow of the trip during the peak of the MDMA roll. SWIM went home at 3:00 amand was still feeling the "molly" a bit. By 4 he was pretty much down from everything and ready to go to bed.

SWIM looked back on the night and realized how wonderfully it turned out. DOC is a magnificant phenethylamine with none of the negatives of some phens with all the positive of some tryptamines. Maybe swims experience would have been stronger if he would have thrown up. Either way peak of the DOC experience might have been comparable to 3 hits of good lsd.

This trip was right on the line between great and mindblowing/life changing. SWIM plans to experient with this chem lots more, perhaps without diluting it. SWIM has no doubts that his body can handle 12 mg and this might be the next dose he takes. If he absorbs it all and doesnt throw up.....GREAT,,,,but if you throws up as normal at the 2 hour mark atleast he will get a bit higher of a dose in. SWIM experienced a shorter trip that others have been reporting. DOC and LSD do share many similarities in terms of the visuals, but SWIM thinks high doses of lsd produce much more vivid, thought inspiring visuls. The introspection was definitely there, but no where the on the level it is with LSD. Man have compared these two but SWIM finds a massive dose of lsd blows DOC out of the water. Good, pure, high powered acid taken in multiple amounts does the trick every time. Complete awe inspiring visuals leaving the tripper to believe in un heard of concepts. The body sensations with DOC are quite spectacular.

SWIM also hit a joint of some weed in the club. Some guy passed him a joint so he took a drag. It was a good hit and if nothing else, it kicked the roll in a a bit more.

SWIM is trying to get as detailed with these reports as possible so he can start submitting to rowid. any suggestions on the trip report would be nice. mayn some slepping, grammar etc, but forgive swim is is barred out right now. Corrections will be made later tommorw but feel free to comment. anyone experience nausia with liquid doses also? SWIM would definitely like to find out a way to reduce the chances of vomiting to ensure he gets his full dose. Plugging might be a good method too, if anyone has any exprience with that please share. The dose might be even a bit lower, but no doubt would you absorb it all! PEACE and leave questions about the trip swim will be glad to answer. feel free to request for more details also, it might help in the submission. thanks, duce

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	an amazing trip report, good job!
	Beautiful,detailed trip report: Very hot on emotions/feelings!
	awesome report

[Pinkavvy]

An amazing trip report! Well written, good details. DOC is one of the best treasures swim has encountered.

[Nagognog2]

Well done! Thanks go to swim, the walls, the headlights on Mars, and the racoon.

[raven3davis]

Other SWIMs are saying that this did not sound like DOC since of the shorter duration. Any clue why it isnt lasting too long? It is definitely DOC though no doubt about that. A researcher in Belgium tested the same stuff along with a few more SWIMs, its pure.

[oldman]

good report, I also know a dude named swim that has tried DOC up to about 4-5mgs. he usually weighs his out, dumps it on his tongue and gulps a sip of water. he's heard that gargling with mouthwash prior to this can be of some benefit speeding up the onset (exposes mucous membranes more or something). It doesn't seem to take more than an hour to start for him anyway though.

his experiences sound similar to yours. like LSD as far as the breathing and color beauty but does seem to lack the energenic waves he recalls LSD having (although it has been about 14 years since he did acid) the beginning does somewhat resemble MDMA in that you get a nice euphoric body buzz and feel a little tired now and then but that's about it for their similarities he says. he would also agree with you that it has more of a tryptamine feel to it than a phenethyl. fairly easy load at the levels he's done. would also agree that the duration is not quite as long as he had anticipated, but he usually takes some sleep meds to knock him out after several hours (still usually restless sleep), and would also say that the next day he is always in an unusually good humor and feels mentally content so it may very well have longer after effects then the obvious visuals.

the combo you're friend tried sounds interesting. my buddy swim was wondering about doing something similar with m1. if anyone has any experience with that input would be graciously appreciated.

as for puking, it does appear from many accounts here that after 6mgs the probability for puking increases exponentially. a lot of reports say this stuff is kinda toxic after that level and that's why you puke. 12mgs is a very high dose. I would seriously reconsider for your brain's sake but you'll do what you want I'm sure. maybe read up on insulfation here, but I never recommend that route for anything really. swims shoved enough things up there in his lifetime. plugging? couldn't tell you but it's your ass.

one last note, swim does seem to get some insight and becomes philosophical with DOC but finds he has a hard time articulating what he wants to say. it's like the concept is there in his head he just can't spit it out right. what people say seems interesting though and not difficult to follow. he finds that watching a good movie on it is fun. it usually seems more real he says. not real sensual material though on its own is the only drawback (maybe gas too) he says, but then you can't always have it all.

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good post on the subject of DOC. Very similar to swims views and also helped swim think about a thing or two himself. ...

[raven3davis]

SWIM is having some revelations today he said. It is like a late late afterglow. he is just realizing what he went thorugh. Now he notices every crack in the road,every branch of a tree, and every distant shout or sound of a horn. He is being especially obervative and has a "taste in his mind." Feels similar to the DOC trip or an lsd trip. SWIM has no clue if anyone can interpret tha saying "taste in his head," but its just a wierd feeling. A good feeling though. Like he is just a bit more connected to everything and aware of the endless changes occuring. Everything is so much more evident, and it is so much more obvious that there are so many factors leading to every choice we make and what happens because of ours and others decisions. Also the impact of the natural world in general is much more pronounced and visual. WOW WOW time just goes on and thats that. Its been a few days since the trip but that was one good combo foafoafoafoafoaf of swims lil cuz told me. THe duration wasnt too long and the good x just had him sailing smooth without a crash. It wasnt like speedy X. SWIM was talking to chicks but he wasnt just rambling out of his ass. He was having meaningful conversations with some girls he met and was having a blast.

SWIM had a great time. Maybe that is too high, snorting it sounds like a good alternative. Maybe since SWIM puked it weakened the dose, or maybe this chem just doesnt get too much powerful. Who knows, only subsequent tests will be able to reveal this. Snorting seems very appealing though. SWIM read a report on 4mg done up the nose and it sounded incredible but maybe the guy wasnt experienced enough.

SWIM's overall thought process is still a bit altered he has also been having crazy ass dreams lately. Will update as more happens. It seems this is one of the higher rated RCs. SWIM would rank it just past 2c-e probably and right with miprocin (4-ho-MIPT) and shrooms but not quite like DMT. Actually in SWIMS opinion it is a bit like miprocin, with a more phenethylamine body feeling if that makes sence. Plugging sounds like a much better method because 4mg plugging might have much better effects. Who knows maybe some could comment.