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Nightshades Atropine plants like Datura(Angel trumpet), Mandrake & Bella Donna

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Old 02-08-2005, 06:54
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have read through most of the posting on this board about Datura and
Angel trumpet. I have read some people smoke it, some have felt effects
from just handeling the plant, and making tea from the plant. </span><br style="font-family: times new roman,times,serif;">
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I have seen many different species of the Brugmansia (angel trumpet). The species include: </span></font>aurea, </font>candida, </font>suaveolens, </font>versicolor </span></font>.</span>
I have a plant that is now producing a single large (12 inch) white
flower. I figures it should weight a good bit as well. </span><br style="font-family: times new roman,times,serif;">
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Can the plant product (leaves and flowers) be dried before use? </span><br style="font-family: times new roman,times,serif;">
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Can the
alkaloids be extracted by making tea, and then further dried?
possibly extracted with grain alcohol? Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated! Thanks a lot!</span></font></span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></font>
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Old 03-08-2005, 03:05
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From erowid datura vault


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<DIV =1>As a general rule, Erowid neither recommends nor discourages the use of any psychoactive, however, in the case of tropane alkaloid-containing Solanaceae plants, we think it is important to note that an overwhelming majority of those who describe to us their use of Datura (and to a lesser extent, Belladonna, Brugmansia and Brunfelsia) find their experiences extremely mentally and physically unpleasant and not infrequently physically dangerous.

There is no way to guess a reasonable dose, because potency of the plant material itself and appropriate dose for an individual appear to vary so much. The question of what "reasonable" means for something that so often leads to such ridiculously negative effects is hard to say.

As an admixture plant in some traditional ayahuasca brews, smoking blends, or other preparations, parts of these plants are generally used in very low doses. Because of the serious adverse consequences associated with tropane alkaloids (scopolamine, atropine, hyoscyamine) intoxication and the wide variation in doses used, we are unwilling to even speculate about specific dosages for the leaves, flowers, and seeds of these plants.

If you are considering ingesting Datura-group plants, please read extensively from the collected experience reports and never take them without a reliable, sober sitter who understands the likely health issues and who can stop you from walking in front of traffic. Please note that fatalities from ingesting Datura do occur and hospitalizations seem to be quite common, in spite of the relatively low rates of psychoactive use of these plants.
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<DIV =1>http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_dose.shtml</DIV>
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Old 05-08-2005, 21:51
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I won't repeate what was posted above me, but I will say that is very good advice.



Yes, the plant can be dried before use, but doesn't need be.



IMHO, extracts from any sort of tropane producing plant could be very dangerous.



The dosage one needs to obtain effects is too close to the dosage needed to do some serious damage.

One can obtain effects from just the plant material alone, so I would not see why you would want to make an extract.



This sounds like a bad idea.





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Old 05-08-2005, 22:29
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angels trumpet is toxic yo, i mean maybe if you prepare it right but i read the farmers almanac on the crapper and it says that a small dose is lethal to humans, maybe i'm wrong but if i'm right then i'll feel like i did something good
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Old 07-08-2005, 14:34
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You're right, and I think everyone here understands the dangers of Datura use.
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