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Re: Which one of these You consider as"Soft Drug" Medium Drug" Hard Drug"(alcohol,LSD

Current trend after 220 voters 16 may:

Heroine . . . . . . . . . 179. - . 81%
Alcohol (Ethanol) . . .147. - . 66%
Cocaine . . . . . . . . .138. - . 62.7%
Nicotine (cigarettes) 137. - . 62%
Opium (smoking) . . . 74 . - . 33%
MDMA (exctasy) . . . 40 . - . 18%
LSD . . . . . . . . . . . .29 . - . 13%

Mescaline . . . . . . . .25 . - . 11%
DMT . . . . . . . . . . . 23 . - . 10%

Mushrooms . . . . . . .20 . - . 9%
Marijuana . . . . . . . . 7 . - . 2%


Well, i am sore most international community would call this results as clear bullshit (as i have shown it many smarter people who sit next to me & their reaction lol). Anyway, lets keep the poll up, would be great to get 100 votes - but i do not think the 100 or 200 hundred votes will change the order of drugs to much in this list



Also want to thank you vinylmesh for great answer and also others who contribute to this thread, you know who you are


& now same other lists by other sources (many of them are posted here before):


The Top Twenty Most Dangerous Drugs According to BBC Horizon (last update: last updated on2/6/2008 ) - this is made by gov themselves. Actually all this is based on The Lancet study (look @ the bottom of page)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6474053.stm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17760130/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/h...rugsreport.pdf
http://www.listology.com/content_sho...id.32791/Other
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04425055281170 (film abut this)
1 Heroin A
2 Cocaine A
3 Barbiturates (Sedatives) B
4 Methadone (Opioid) A
5 Alcohol Legal
6 Ketamine C
7 Benzodiazepines (Sedatives) C
8 Amphetamine (Speed) B
9 Tobacco legal
10 Buprenorphine (Opioid) C
11 Cannabis C
12 Solvents Legal
13 4-methylthioamphetamine (amphetamine derivative) A
14 LSD A
15 Methylphenidate(Ritalin) B
16 Anabolic steroids C
17 Gamma 4-hydroxybutyric acid (depressant, “date-rape drug”) C
18 Ecstasy A
19 Amyl Nitrate (nitrite inhalants, “poppers”) Legal
20 Khat (plant-derived stimulant) Legal (illegal in USA)

(basically good but....cannabis more bad then solvents?! I do not think so, also a lot of the others in this list is invalid even on their own website, look next list... but it's good start considering that it's gov supported study)

It's good to add to the previous list this list - I took them, add them to almost logical order by harm and then also calculated death rate based on these numbers (but ofcourse statistic numbers does not mean facts, but still, fun to see... It's all based on BBC own website Similar list was posted before but this is updated one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/prog.../drugs/survey/

1 Heroin (brown, skag, gear, smack) UK users: 300,000 UK deaths/year: 700 Class-A (death rate: 0.23 % (4th) )
2 Cocaine & Crack (Charlie, coke, base) UK users: 780,000 UK deaths/year: 214 Class-A (death rate 0.027 % (7th) )
3 Tobacco (nicotine, cigarettes, cigars) UK users: 10 million UK deaths: 114,000 (20% of UK deaths) Legal (death rate:1.4% (1st) )
4 Benzodiazepines ( benzos, downers) UK users: 100,000 UK deaths/year: 406 Class C (Death rate 0.406% (3nd) )
5 Alcohol (beer, vodka, whiskey etc) UK users: 40 million UK deaths/year: 40,000, Legal (death rate: 0.1 % (6th) )
6 Street methadone ( the precious, slime, green) UK (illegal) users: 33,000, UK deaths/year: 295 Legal? (death rate 0.89 % (2th) )
7 Solvents (clue, paint, casoline etc) UK users: 30,000 UK deaths/year: 50-60 Legal ( death rate 0.183% (5th) )
8 Amphetamine (speed, whiz, dexies or billys) UK users: 430,000 UK deaths/year: 35 Class-A & B ( 0.0081% (8th) )
9 Barbiturates ( pink ladies, red devils,depression, anxiety & insomnia pils ) UK users: NA UK deaths/year: 20 Class-C
11 Anabolic steroids UK (illegal) users: 42,000 UK deaths/year: 0, Class-C
12 Ketamine (special K, vitamin K) UK users: 100,000 UK deaths: 1, Class-C (death rate 0.001% (9th))
13 GHB (liquid ecstasy) UK users: NA UK deaths/year: 3, Class-C (could be fatal whit alcohol or overdose )
14 4-MTA ( flatliner, goldeneagle). UK users: NA, UK deaths/year: 0. Class-A (many deaths in USA)
15 Alkyl nitrites (poppers, liquid gold) UK users: 400,000 UK deaths: 0 recorded. Legal
16 Ecstasy (E, hug drug, love drug) UK users: 500,000 UK deaths/year: 27. Class-A ( death rate 0.0054% (10th) )
17 Cannabis ( dope, hash and bob ) UK users: 3 million UK deaths/year: 1 Class-C (death rate 0.000033 % (11th) )
18 Khat (Abyssinian tea, African salad) UK users: 40,000 UK deaths per year: 0 Legal (70-80% of adult males use khat in Yemenis)
18 Buprenorphines ( subbies, temmies ) UK users: unknown UK deaths/year: 2 Class C
20 Methylphenidate ( vitamin R ) UK users: 15,000 UK deaths/year: 0 Class A
21 LSD ( Lucy, trips, paper mushrooms ) UK users: 83,000 UK deaths/year: 0 Class A
& i might add:
21 DMT - natural in our body and in many plants, not addictive and likely drug that can not be abused or used as party drug Class A
22 Psilocybin Mushroooms (just in Holland 4 million dosages per year was bought from stores (home uses unknown) & we had 0 death's Class A


It's kind of funny to see that tobacco will kill you around 259 times more then Ecstasy & 51 times more often then Crack/Cocaine by % xD
You should also consider add to the alcohol (that looked so good) all the injuries, fights, breakup's, etc caused by alcohol to get real picture... People themselves vote on BBC to be 3 most dangerous drugs in this order: Alcohol, Heroin & Tobacco.




Correlation between mean scores from the independent experts and the specialist addiction psychiatrists
1=heroin. 2=cocaine. 3=alcohol. 4=barbiturates. 5=amphetamine. 6=methadone. 7=benzodiazepines. 8=solvents. 9=buprenorphine. 10=tobacco. 11=ecstasy. 12=cannabis. 13=LSD. 14=steroids.



Main article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(m ean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg
Data source is the March 24, 2007 article: Nutt, David, Leslie A King, William Saulsbury, Colin Blakemore. "Development of a rational scale to assess the harm of drugs of potential misuse" The Lancet 2007


(also on this link you can arrange different drugs by harm and by other parameters)



http://www.impactlab.com/2007/07/09/...oxicity-chart/
This is a very revealing chart that shows how dangerous our illegal drugs are. Notice that over half are far less lethal than alcohol. And that most common spice - nutmeg - is one of the most dangerous.



Ten Most Dangerous Drugs By Dr. Ben Kim on March 25, 2007
http://drbenkim.com/ten-most-dangerous-drugs.html

1 Heroin - popular street names include smack, skag, and junk.
2 Cocaine - often referred to as snow, flake, coke, and blow.
3 Barbiturates - popular slang names include yellow jackets, reds, blues, Amy's, and rainbows.
4 Street Methadone
5 Alcohol
6 Ketamine - a powerful hallucinogen, often referred to as Special K.
7 Benzodiazepines - a family of sedative drugs.
8 Amphetamines - known as greenies among baseball players.
9 Tobacco
10 Buprenorphine - also called bupe or subbies.

The remaining drugs that were assessed in this study ranked as follows:

11 Cannabis - includes marijuana.
12 Solvents - volatile substances that can be inhaled, such as glue, nail polish remover, paints, hair spray, and lighter fuel (gas).
13 4-MTA - is a derivative of amphetamine and has similar effects to ecstasy.
14 LSD
15 Methylphenidate - central nervous system stimulant, commonly sold as ritalin.
16 Anabolic steroids
17 GHB - short for Gamma hydroxybutyrate, a powerful central nervous system depressant, most commonly known as the date rape drug.
18 Ecstasy
19 Alkyl nitrates - group of drugs commonly referred to as poppers.
20 Khat - an amphetamine-like stimulant.



Which Drug is Most Addictive?
A List Ranking the Addictive Properties of Commonly Abused Drugs
http://www.troubleblog.com/addiction...-drugs-0408560

100 - Nicotine
99 - Ice, Glass (Methamphetamine smoked)
98 - Crack
93 - Crystal Meth (Methamphetamine injected)
85 - Valium (Diazepam)
83 - Quaalude (Methaqualone)
82 - Seconal (Secobarbital)
81 - Alcohol
80 - Heroin
78 - Crank (Amphetamine taken nasally)
72 - Cocaine
68 - Caffeine
57 - PCP (Phencyclidine)
21 - Marijuana
20 - Ecstasy (MDMA)
18 - Psilocybin Mushrooms
18 - LSD
18 - Mescaline

Research was conducted by John Hastings, and the full text article can be found at "In Health" journal



The Most Addictive Drugs info for parents
http://www.drugrehabtreatment.com/mo...ive-drugs.html
( Dr. Jack E. Henningfield of the National Institute on Drug Abuse and Dr. Neal L. Benowitz of the University of California at San Francisco attempted to define the most addictive drugs by ranking six psychoactive substances on the five criteria they found most applicable to addiction)
1 Nicotine
2 Heroin
3 Cocaine
4 Alcohol
5 Caffeine
6 Marijuana

(so this is not list 6 MOST but of these 6 - most addictive. Like you can see Marijuana is below caffeine)


Top 10 most dangerous drugs
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article....&in_page_id=34

Source: The Lancet and the BBC

Data from The Lancet (The Lancet is the world's leading general medical journal and specialty journals in Oncology, Neurology and Infectious Diseases). This is same list basically that was first one in here from BCC Horizont

Development of a rational scale to assess the harm of drugs of potential misuse
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...04644/fulltext
Assessment parameters for these graphs:

Mean harm scores for 20 substances
Classification under the Misuse of Drugs Act, where appropriate, is shown by the colour of each bar.





http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...gs_to_use.html
June 11, 2007 by Jason Freeden (Owner of DrugContent.com & Proffessional writer) - Pinocchio will write him professional letter later asking if he needs some mental health himself)

1. Heroin
2. Methamphetamine aka Crystal Meth
3. OxyContin ©
4. LSD (very addictive and dangerous)
5. MDMA aka Ecstasy (Very addictive) All in all, this is a very dangerous medication to take,

(this article sounds (aside of BS) like its made for junkyes to advertise different legal medications to get high,just look all the ©'s there )



More links:


Which drugs are the most addictive?
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/.../basicfax5.htm
(ratings for: Withdrawal Reinforcement Tolerance Dependence Intoxication)

http://onlineworldsecurity.com/main-...-21st-century/ - Well, you think heroin is most dangerous, think again :P

I also find that good source to find all most dangerous effects by common medications is from lawyers websites, here is 2 first ones i found:

Dangerous (medical) Drug List
http://www.jrlawfirm.com/specific_drugs.htm

http://productliability.lawyercentra...2-8821-37.html
Virtual Drug – the most dangerous drug of the 21st century….

Reputation Comments on this post:
  
  Very useful post compiling top ten most dangerous/addictive etc etc drugs

Last edited by Waffa; 16-04-2009 at 19:24. Reason: added some hyperlinks about nutmeg etc
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