Forget Dilaudid, Morphine is better! [Archive]

mr.incognito

24-03-2004, 04:02

<blockquote> Originally posted by Narcosis on 16 February 2004<hr>

Morphine in tablets are very very good! crush and snort and you'll be flying!

its a lot better than dilaudid! its just like heroin...cuz heroin when it reaches your brain it actually is morphine....so heroin only exists in the external form...inside your body it turns from diamorphine to morphine!

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let me guess, you snorted dilaudid and snorted morphine and now think that morphine is better. IV them both and then see which one is better. It is no contest, dilaudid is awsome. (speaking of which I hear a little yellow K calling to me right now ; )

-Mr.Incognito

Woodman

24-03-2004, 05:55

<blockquote> Originally posted by kitchkinet on 19 February 2004<hr>
dilaudid is so much better than heroin or morphine or any other opiate...<hr></blockquote>

kitchkinet,

I've heard that. but I've also heard otherwise.

I can only guess that different people have seperate,and distinct , reactions.

hollywood

02-04-2004, 22:02

I like morphine better than anything.......................................... .............................even coke

OneDiaDem

03-04-2004, 05:43

Morphine sundaes anyone? This is my drug of choice, but one I must stay away from totally. The like gets out of control too easily, and detoxing is extremely ruff.

methadoneman

09-04-2004, 21:23

dilaudid is 2 to 4 times stronger than morphine. if you snort 10 mgs of dilaudid it will make you feel twice as good as snorting 10 mgs of morphine.

hollywood

06-05-2004, 09:35

Morphine is the best, but Ds are so much harder to come off of. I say stay away from both.............................................. ....................................

Guest

23-05-2004, 00:45

I've taken morphine (never snorted it- didn't know that was an option-that's probably why it didn't do a lot for me); now I'm really wanting to try dilaudid.

Here's the problem: I have no idea where/ how to get it. All my friends are totally straight, so I have no connections (it was just blind luck that I got the morphine). Online pharmacies have gotten me nowhere. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? I live in Chicago. Thanks. <img border="0" src= "smileys/smiley5.gif">

junebug

05-06-2004, 05:21

ok- as far as snorting, is it best to do all 10 mgs at once? or space it out a little?

My experience: Snort one 2 mg pill, take one orally, and take another orally an hour or two later. The effects were very pleasant, but mild.

Would I be beter off taking/snorting 5 pills at once?

I am always alone when I take anything, so I am scared of taking too much.

So far the comparison to morphine is very similar, with dilaudid being slightly more "numby/tingly" for lack of a better word.

methadoneman- I've heard the opposite-a few doctorshave told me that morph is the stronger drug, and one who said they're the same in strength.

methadoneman

11-06-2004, 03:39

Dude, how many times have you taken any kind of opiates? You cant depend on another person to tell you the amount to take if you dont know what the fu** your doing especially when you're talking about some of the most powerful shit you can get. You've got to figure this stuff out for yourself. And beleive me, after a while, snortin 30 mgs of anything isn't going to do the same thing for you, but you know this. Hey, for me to get high, I have to take about ten norco 1000 mg vics, then snort about 80 mgs of something pure like morphine, and ive only been on opiates for 1 year! Thats how fast it progresses.

My advice to you would be to stay the hell away from any other drug than weed and alcohol.

But if you really need to know; To me, you sound like you dont have much experience with snorting powerful opiates like morphine, dilaudid, and oxycontin. First start off with 20 mg of morphine or oxy, or if you want to try dilaudid, i think the biggest pills you can get are 8 mg start off with about 12 of this. (Also to increase the high for no more money, pop about 5 extra strength tylonol and wait till you can feel it then snort your pills)

all i know is I researched and found this information on a health web site, as well as being told by doctors, and the experience.

But do not exceed over 40 mgs of d or 80 mgs of m or oxy in an hours time.

once i snorted 160 mgs of oxy and i thought i was going to die.

just remember to be careful and read and research what you are going to do BEFORE you do it so you know at least a little that is going on in any other now situation

junebug

12-06-2004, 22:30

Thanks methadone...

you're right, a good dose for one person might be terrible for the next.

But I actually have more experience than you think: I've been using painkillers on & off for two years. Started with vicodin, went to oxycontin, then morphine, and finally heroin. My tolerance is up there. But I stop using here & there to try to stay one step ahead of full addiction, and to try to bring my tolerance down so I don't need as much.

The only thing is I never snorted any of the pills, and I wasn't sure if the amount you use should be any different than if you take 'em orally, that's all.

Add to that the fact this was my first time with dilaudid, I just wanted to gather as much info about it as possible, you know?

Geetered

28-07-2004, 08:33

Dilaudiid has a better rush, but after the rush is over theres not much of a high... yeah morphine is better IF IV'ED

Kemikaru_Tenshu

28-07-2004, 15:59

Morphine, especially sulfate, has a warm prickly rush that can actually be uncomfortable when you use a large amount. Dilaudid has a great flushing rush with that awesome tightening of the muscles between the shoulder blades. I personally prefer dilaudid for IV. JMHO.

~KT

mike2507

07-08-2004, 23:15

NOT trying to be the ONE that knowes it all abought nothing...BUT EXPERANCE of 15 years of controled use of opiods as well as a number of other Rec drugs redayly avalable as a health care profesional I can give you some in sight as to the why fors in your statments.

Dulidid is a resythsised morphine that has a two pass effect. It has a net value of 2-4 times that of morphine but its best trait is that it first is used by the pleaser center of your brain and goes thru the blood/brain barior with out being metabolised after 12-20 min it is then pass thru the liver then is made in to morphine with the excpected morphine results.

The drug Fyntanal ( Duragisic,ect ) has a similer effect . Its first pass thru the blood stream goes stright to the spinal cord and brain pleaser center and pain receptrs and has the same kick as 80-100 times that of morphine. In its perscription forum ( vers O.R. meds that are IV ) it comes in a patch that is worn on the skin for up to 72 hours. It has abought a 90-95% absorbsone rate when absorbe thru the mucus membrane . It first passes stright in to the blood and then to the pleaser centersand has a mean half life of 20 min then it passes thru the liver were it is then converted to a much smaller doses of morphine.

DO BECARFULL WITH THIS DRUG. a single 75McG/H patch when used as directed is the same effect as taking 280-360 Mg of morphine oraly a day. If you times that times 3 days worth of the drug in each patch thats around 1000 Mgs of morphine in a single dose!

Nicaine

13-01-2005, 03:23

I have alot of experience w/opiates (pill form). IMHO Dilaudid is about 1.5 to 2 times as good as oxycodone (taken orally anyway) and that's saying a lot. It's a more intense buzz, foggier, equally euphoric and more "head in the clouds." Don't even expect to be able to even read a book very well on the stuff, even in pill form it's a "lay down & nod" type of high.

A person can reach a limit with oxycodone & start getting sick of it (the high, the comedown, whatever), but I could easily see someone going up, up, up to infinity dosage w/Dilaudid. Till death do ya part...Edited by: Nicaine

Colby

13-01-2005, 03:28

Morphine is bomb, i used to rail these things to the dome all the time, i compare the high to oxy's i used to love railing these things.. no more for me, too much tolerance now, and i love it way too much

Nicaine

13-01-2005, 03:32

I know the feeling... I rarely do opiates anymore. Maybe a few times a year, when I bump into someone who has some.

Main prob for me is the side effects (dead sex drive, can't shit, can't sleep right, etc). Was wickedly hooked on hydrocodone/vicodins a few years ago... the high ain't even that good, I wouldn't recommend that shit to anyone. Back in the mid 80s I had an almost limitless source for opiates (place of work), my choice at the time was Percocets (now those are good, LOL).Edited by: Nicaine

fkdpunk

15-01-2005, 02:13

narcosis, i highly disagree.

generic hydromorphone(diaudid) is much better

synthetic opiates make for a better euphoria and the gen's are the size of a tic tac. plus theyare measured in 2mg pills(=to about 30mgs of morphine). and theyare stronger, its what the burroughs did whren he didnt have heroin(he was a writer for those of u that dont kno)

peace

bealzabub

17-01-2005, 04:52

dilaudid is so much better than heroin or
morphine or any other opiate...
TRUE DAT!!! http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

bealzabub

17-01-2005, 04:59

dilaudid is so much better than heroin or
morphine or any other opiate...
TRUE DAT!!! http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif
Better rush,totally clean.(remember Burroughs in Drugstore
Coyboy?)

immunity

17-01-2005, 10:06

In a couple of weeks, I'm going to be spending a lot of time in the
hospital, hooked to a PCA. Basically the deal with a PCA is, you get a
button attached to a ton of IV painkiller, and when you want some, you
press it. The only restriction is that it only works every five minutes
(supposedly this stops you from killing yourself). Nobody tracks or
even cares how much you use.

I basically get my choice between Morphine and Dilaudid. I had a very
minor reaction to Morphine a long time ago, so they tend to opt toward
Dilaudid, but if I tell them I'd like to try it again, I'm sure they'll
let me, which is basically why I get a little bit of choice here.

Pretty much everyone in this thread has said that for IV, Dilaudid is
the way to go, so that's probably the plan, but I'd love more opinions
from people experienced with both. I'd like to enjoy this
recreationally, and it will definitely need to function as a
painkiller, as I will be in an awful lot of pain. Thanks for the
opinions.

Inkmanr6

17-01-2005, 11:00

well you really can't go wrong with either of them man!!. They are both gonna be awesome for IV. I would have to say go for Dilaudid for sure though. It is stronger and will get you higher...o yea and it'll get rid of pain better then morphine too. I would be surprised if anyone said go with morphine. Hope this helps you a bit!. I have done both on many occasions and morphine really cannot compete with Dilaudid.

dastardlymonkey

23-01-2005, 01:45

morphine is a better injected drug. dilauded is just a rush. dilauded is a better snorting drug. I do not advise anyone to snort morphine. The filler material is a jello like substance that i am sure destroys your snoz even quicker than most things.

Inkmanr6

23-01-2005, 08:37

I have just snorted and dilaudid kicks morphines butt.

newman

23-01-2005, 11:33

Well here's what I think. I have been on dilaudid for a few years now.

AT one point I was snorting over 100mgs a day. When I first started I liked morphine better (There was just more euphoria) But after a while I prefered dilaudid due to its instant effects of pleasure.

As writen by the pharma. industry, dilaudid is almost 10 times the pain killing strength, but has the euphoria of codeine.

Tomorow is pick up day :)

newman

25-01-2005, 04:02

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gifAh Sweet pick up day. I'm so bad IL end up using my months worth of dilaudid and 642's in 2 weeks at the most. Then end Up in horrible pain Till my next GP Apt. I have a really messed up back and neck.

At least this month I have about 100gr of dried poppy extract. The pods this batch seem to have a good M. content and Very little thebane(spelling). one Gram of the extract is a pretty good Buzz and worked great for my back, with no nausea. http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif I have to say I was pleasantly surprised at the extent of the pain killing effects. I also Use ES robaxacet, celebrex, pennsaid, and elavil Daily for pain. As you can imagine I now have a sensitive stomach and gut, from all the ASA (2-4gr) dailyand celebrex (400mg) daily. So tea or extract is not usually the easiest thing on me.

I have to say the only thing I hate about diaudid is when its gone.

Yea Dilly

Interzone

30-01-2005, 07:32

I don't know about Dilaudid, never had it yet. Hope to try it. I get a monthly dose of 60 ct. 30mg Morhine SR tabs and 40ct. 15 mg morphine fast action release tabs from my doctor. I would like to see if snorting would give a faster relief from pain, but I would'nt suggest the SR tabs, only the quick release kind. I have ended up vomiting up a SR tab onece and it looks like a 1 inch tall cylender of jelly, about 10 times it's dry state.

Jaxonhead

13-02-2005, 11:39

I've been getting 8mg dilaudid, in the white triangular pill for $10
each for about a month. I never snorted one until just about 10 minutes
ago....did about half of it, and am having a very nice warm rush...

Am I overpaying? curious...wow, I should have tried snorting before, this is awfully sweet.

moldie

14-02-2005, 02:40

Jaxonhead - $10 is pretty standard for an 8mg dilaudid where I live. It's a bit more expensive for me than getting dope, but I still shell out cash for dilaudid's at that price.

smilla

14-02-2005, 08:04

well whoever said that morphine pills are better than dilaudid is crazy. D's are so much better and stronger than morphine...deff get the D's over the morphine anyday

VincentVan

15-02-2005, 16:44

<LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="3830578149">Narcosis obviously has never tried heroine. Yes it does turn into morphine into your body, but only after a while. A pretty enjoyable while . </LABEL>

<LABEL SessionId="3830578149">My wiews on morphine are in the topic "morphine abuse" as for dilaudid it´s just a byproduct of opium . Why should you buy a kimberlite ring? Too shy to wear a diamond?</LABEL>

beebopfatboy

16-02-2005, 02:48

I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from a first hand
experience, I KNOW for a fact that dilaudid is much much much better
than morphine will ever be. I was in the hospital for 3 months
straight with severe abdominal pain, a rare disease known as portal
vein thrombosis. I had my choice of IV injections of dilaudid or
a morphine pump. I was given LARGE doses of morphine and LARGE doses of
dilaudid. It wasnt given so much for the pain, but because they
thought i was gunna die, so why not let me die happy. I could honestly
have as much as i wanted, within reason of course. I was getting
2mg dilaudid injections every 2 hours or 1 mg morphine every 10
minutes, it was my choice. Morphine made me feel ok i suppose but
you had to deal with all the itching and after too much it gave me
severe migraines. Dilaudid on the other hand was given and not
even 2 seconds later a huge rush came over my body. My shoulders
became really lose and a heat rush went from the top of my head to the
tips of my toes. Complete bliss. There were no itching side
effects or any nausea, just pure happiness and an appreciation for
life. After the hospital stay i also experimented with both meds in
pill form. Same thing. Dilaudid is morphine x4 without the
shitty side effects. To me, it is a miracle drug. Its just
too bad i pulled through the illness because if i hadn't i would still
be on that wonderful medication... hopefully sometime in the near
future, something else terrible will happen to me so that i can have
some more dilaudid. Not only did it take the pain away, it put me
in a wonderland of no worries and happiness.... even knowing that i
only had a 30% chance of living.... I would be shocked to hear someone
say that morphine could do that for them.

beebopfatboy

16-02-2005, 02:50

DILAUDID IS FUN!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif</font>

beebopfatboy

16-02-2005, 02:53

Inkmanr6

17-02-2005, 01:08

dilaudid is 2 to 4 times stronger than morphine. if
you snort 10 mgs of dilaudid it will make you feel twice as good as
snorting 10 mgs of morphine.

IF YOU WERE TO SNORT 10MG OF DILAUDID IN ONE SHOT, YOU WOULD DIE.... I
HAVE A VERY STRONG OPIATE TOLERANCE AND 4MG OF DILAUDED PUTS ME ON MY
ASS FOR THE DAY.... I really do not suggest anyone ever snort 10mg of
dilaudid, maybe spaced throughout the day, but never ever do it in one
sitting!

I have taken 16mgs of dilaudid barely any tolerance and 8mg with NO tolerance. Always snorted. When I did 16mgs it was pretty intense though!.

Inkmanr6

17-02-2005, 01:10

dilaudid is 2 to 4 times stronger than morphine. if
you snort 10 mgs of dilaudid it will make you feel twice as good as
snorting 10 mgs of morphine.

IF YOU WERE TO SNORT 10MG OF DILAUDID IN ONE SHOT, YOU WOULD DIE.... I
HAVE A VERY STRONG OPIATE TOLERANCE AND 4MG OF DILAUDED PUTS ME ON MY
ASS FOR THE DAY.... I really do not suggest anyone ever snort 10mg of
dilaudid, maybe spaced throughout the day, but never ever do it in one
sitting!

you don't have a high tolerance. I know guys that main line 8mgs. I hardly believe you have a high tolerance if snorting 4mg puts you on your ass for a day http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

smilla

17-02-2005, 08:22

one must consider if they are generic pills...makes a big difference. Ihave had regular dalidaud pills and the generic ones and the generics are deff less potent

hippie_lain

17-02-2005, 08:56

Ive done 16 mg of dilaudid many times and 20 a couple times...20 is way to much. Its really fun to take morphine and hyromorphone at the same timehttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif. Which one do a like better........none cause there all from HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

manda

18-02-2005, 02:25

Drugstore Cowboy!!! I'm so glad someone on this forum mentioned that movie!!! Loved it.

What does it feel like to take orally a normal dose of dilaudid???

motorhead

28-02-2005, 00:19

Tolerence is the key word of this thread. The first time i swallowed an 8mg dilly i was in dreamland for hours and threw up a couple times. Now that ive progressed to the spike eating them does nothin. I can slam 24mgs now and although the rush is wicked the afterwards are nothing compared to that first time i ate one. I dont bother slamming that much cuz the rush from a yellow is pretty damn fine and the fact that i pay 20-25 bucks for an 8 makes me wanna stretch em out a little more-i wish they were 10 bucks here lol.

Anyway the rush from morphine isnt as quite as good i dont think but ive gotten to like it better which is kinda funny. Dont like that pins and needles thing alot tho.

So i vote dillys, and by the way i seen a guy slam 40mgs!!!!!!!!!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif

crazy shiznit

dillydude

04-03-2005, 17:23

Hello to you in , the preoccupation world of dilaudid orally, nasally, or straight to the vein. I'd like to refer back to the posting of the ten mgs. of "hydromorphone" aka dilaudid and or morphine. Of course dilaudid is approximately 2 times as strong as regular morphine, per milligram that is. I have done a fair amount of research into this area, and it all comes back to the same, dilaudid is 2x as strong. I'd also like to add that it depends on the person and their own tolorance. I have taken 4 years to get to where I am now,with an endless supply that is and back to the posting from (Motorhead) I can verify to the guy that can shoot 5 x 8'mgs at once ,cause that person is me, also I'd like to add that i have acquired to be able to pump in 7 x8mgs. at one time , Mind you , I would not reccomend this for anyone without the same tolorance as myself .Before I've started spiking my veins ,I have also been known for eating 32 x 8's over a 20 hour day, awake that is and still be able to walk ,talk and act normally. And as recently as a few weeks ago I've been able to , or should I say the most 8's I've put in my arm in one day is as much as 24 x 8 mg. of dilaudid. However I've since had singed myself into detox,cause you can all probably guess where I was heading. Well so much for the endless supply, My physician was told from myself what I was up to, well you know the rest of the story.

Truly Dillydude

18 days in pain and sober,but we're working on methadone.

Be-Bop

03-10-2005, 20:07

So much one-up-man-ship, is this a competition? Don't tend to find Dilaudids where i live (antarctica), but have been meaning to research Hydromorphone, ie is it under another name? But i don't think so...or not readily available anyway..I've known alot of junkies & cancer patients on pain-relief but i've never heard of anyone with hydromorphone in this country..Morph., 'done, oxy's, dextrophoxephene (spelling?) are given as opiate substitute, or pain relief.....but i've ALWAYS wanted to try Dilaudids, just for the name..rhymes with deluded, & THAT is me, baby!!!..Just to join in on the competition, i've been using for a long time..the most i've ever regularily used was sorta recently (earlier this year) & that was 2.5 grams of heroin/day. Too much $'s required- $1600/day, tho' that was for me & my girlfriend...so for 5g. Good gear tho'....Do i win?

evanisgod

05-10-2005, 18:41

Who cares if dilaudid or morphine is better...take them both along with some oxy and heroin. and dont forget to smoke a little fentanyl

migrainemomma

06-10-2005, 15:02

Love em both but dilaudid is better IV. Morphine is quite as potent.

Be-Bop

06-10-2005, 15:44

Who cares if dilaudid or morphine is better...take them both along with some oxy and heroin. and dont forget to smoke a little fentanyl

Indeed!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifI'll have them all mixed together in a BIG bucket!!!!! Please!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gifhttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gifhttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gif

neurochem

09-10-2005, 23:55

swim feels that morphine gives better euphoria...Though dilaudid is nothing to pass up. For some reason, he scratched himself more on dilaudid.

allyourbase

10-10-2005, 01:30

dilaudid is far stronger than that orally. remember 90% of morphine will be taken by your liver, whereas almost no hydromorphone is lost to that same initial enzymatic process. when eaten 8 mg of hydromorphone is better than 150 mg of morphine. BUT as a dihydromorphinone its also easier to nod on HM and also FAR more easy to OD, so it could be said of course that you can get higher on morphine, simply because of its dose/response, and how little hydromorphone it would take to OD versus the copius amounts of morphine required to even nod.

Be-Bop

12-10-2005, 15:00

I have to say that i don't really like Morphine that much...not for any 'scientific reason', but just from a personal, 'how it feels to me' type angle..

SWIM once had brief access to a 285ml bottle of liquid Morph, taken by an 'friend' from the fridge of his cancer-stricken grandmother (once she was dead..oh dear..i seem to remember morals once.... long ago...), & the 'rush' was fucking 'orrible..all those ultra-mega-pins & needles, you feel like your chest, face & back are on fire!!! It isn't like the nice, warm, satisfyingly itchy, smack pins& needles...but these AWFUL HORRIBLE prickles!!!! Plus, i find Morphine is too 'clear', there is a kinda disassociation from the body, doesn't make me feel particulaly 'stoned'...not the 'floaty', warm liquid sea that heroin lets you drift upon...yeah..give me a nice, big taste of Diacetylmorphine anyday! Anybody got any spare..." just a smidge mate, i know you got some of the yellow shit, c'mon your already stoned"...( anybody seen that fantastic movie, "Ghosts of the civil dead"..1988, Australian, John Hillcoat-Director...Nick Cave makes a brief appearance, & my old painting teacher, Tony Clark {ace guy!} plays the ugly transvestite..see it, or be doomed forever!)

Be-Bop http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gifhttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gifhttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gif

Fantasian

22-05-2006, 23:56

Morphine is much better for pain killing, dilaudid is better for the rush, Both are pretty equal in the overall high. It's all about preferance though i guess.

bandido

02-06-2006, 19:29

then why would they bother to even make it the first place? If morph is better than your h change dealers

raven3davis

02-06-2006, 23:36

Stavrogin

06-06-2006, 13:09

off course morphine is better, but its damn hard to find it.

Fantasian

06-06-2006, 16:14

What is every SWIMS preference when it comes to the "rush" Does SWIM prefer a morphiene rush or a hydromorphone rush. The reason SWIM is asking is because SWIM and all the fishes in his pond love banging hydromorphone and love the rush but part of it is painful. Is the morphiene rush painful in the same way?

There is nothing painful about the morphine rush, SWIFantasian found it on numerous occasions one of the most pleasant experiences he's ever had, however this does also make it one of the most dangerous.

johnny27bt

07-06-2006, 02:19

Fantasian

07-06-2006, 02:28

I've always heard about the horrible histamine effect when the morphine crosses the blood brain barrier, serve pins and needles and some alot of ppl have breathing difficulty, not because of OD but tightness in chest because if the histamine effect. TBH it put me off using Intravenous morphine, although back in the days i would skin pop 40mg in 2 places, or IM when i had the correct needles.
Although as someone said, that morphine does not produce this effect on them and thats great luck. its also suggested when IVing M to shoot it very slow that helps

Again i want to highlight, SWIM has used morphine numerous times and has not experienced anything but relaxation and a euphoric rush when injecting, SWIM tries to inject slowly just as the hospital do when injecting, about 5 mg per 15 seconds. SWIM has never experienced the anti histamine effect you speak of. The only negative effect is the sickness which can be solved with an anti-emetic like cyclizine, buccastem or Ondanstron among others.

bandido

13-06-2006, 03:10

Fantasian

13-06-2006, 14:53

than why does it not work any way close to h than? why would anyone take morph threw all those steps to make h then?? this is onne of the most unthaught out questions I have EVER heard in 40 some years, come on.

Not sure entirely what your trying to say here?

If your saying why do people convert morphine into Diamorphine (heroin) then it's because of a faster transfer to the blood brain barrier. This can be used clinically because diamorphine when given subcutaniously will be absorbed faster and also smaller about of diamorphine can be used to get the same effect as morphine.

People enjoy the experience of diamorphine more because the very attribute i previously stated means that as diamorphine passes through the blood brain barrier faster it means the rush is more intense which is what many drug users seek.

Not entirely sure how this is comparing Dilaudid and morphine but there we go.

Forthesevenlakes

13-06-2006, 16:16

SWIM has never felt anything from dilaudid. His lab rats report "a cerebral high...similar to that of temgesic (subutex/buprenorphone)" However, SWIM has railed 8 mg of the wretched stuff and felt nothing. However, insufflating 30-60 mg morphine has given him a pleasant body high, not quite as mentally overpowering as a similar dosage oxycodone, but very nice and managable. so i'll agree with whoever started this forum that morphine is more fun. alot of rats SWIM has talked to seem to find that morphine has a "darker" feel to it, and SWIM is wondering what could account for that.

bandido

08-09-2006, 20:34

what I ment is that sum guy (who obviously has never done both) said they were the same thing(h and m) because the body converted the h back to m, so they were the same thing!! YA RIGHT GIMME A BREAK.Thats what I meant by why does anyone bother to take m further to get h.

Dr.Jones

12-02-2007, 05:07

Morphine in tablets are very very good! crush and snort and you'll be flying!

its a lot better than dilaudid! its just like heroin...cuz heroin when it reaches your brain it actually is morphine....so heroin only exists in the external form...inside your body it turns from diamorphine to morphine!

By that same logic, codeine is morphine as that is the active metoblite of codeine. Dia-m, codeine, and M, although all pretty much the same drug when its in your brain, are very different highs.

Spare Chaynge

12-02-2007, 08:21

swim has know hydromorphone swim has also known morphine now in swims southern location of texas at the time 4mg hydromorphone cost XXXX dollars. this was very cheap swim got into the practice of insufflating 24mg because swim had used for several years. This would create short lived complete nods unlike nothing swim has ever expirenced. except when he had the unusuall expirence of eating 1200 mg of timed release oc and 3 marinols swim was afraid of the officer coming to his window. morphine lacks in the nod and the price is high in swims previous location. swim no longer uses for many reasons one can guess why

Morphium

26-02-2007, 05:03

In the years and years of doing drugs...since the early 70's, I have experienced every opiate there is to experience.
have even injected "blues" (for the old schoolers who know what that is)..

There has never been anything like heroin and morphine straight up - the feeling in the gut, back, and shoulders cannot be compared with anything.
dilaudid is good, but a bit overrated and overhyped and it definitely is no morphine or heroin.

1. morphine/heroin
2. oxymorphone
3. hydromorphone

Morphium

26-02-2007, 05:05

might I add that Demerol IV'd is a very very nice high aswell.

thbronze

19-03-2007, 19:28

D's are nice,swim has never snorted so wouldn't know that comparison,like anything the first time is the best and never can be replicated,bitch aint it,
morph iv'd to swim much better than d's even up to 16mg.at a time,of course,the big H will knock you on your ass,don't believe D's will do that.
As far as the itching for 10 seconds w/morph thats part of the exsperience in a good way,IMO