Will a Short Xanax Binge produce Intense Withdrawls

[TheNewLeft]

SWIM has just been prescribed 60 0.5mg alprazolam pills.

If i go through 30mg of Xanax is lets say 6-7 days will i experience any intense withdrawal symptoms?

I used to be addicted to Benzo's.....lorazopam and clonazopam...but I was taking upwards of 4mg a day for several months....and detoxing was hell.

but a short little xanax bender shouldn't be too rough right?

TheNewLeft added 81 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...

double post sorry

[bonghed]

yea it will be fine. enjoy

[spacelord]

SWITNL might not experience terrible withdrawal symptoms, but he risks relapse when has been addicted to benzos beforehand. So saying it will be fine is not exactly what is called good advice.

So SWITNL might take them but only if he's sure he can prevent falling back in old patterns of behaviour.

[Solinari]

My fiend went on a 70 x 10mg diazepam binge over about 5 - 6 days and felt rather ropey afterwards, in fact he thought he might have got himself a slight habit. Luckily he found half a 20mg temazepam he knew he had but could never find, thank fuck he found it because it got rid of the brain zap and general rattle feeling.

He wasn't in severe withdrawal or anything, just felt like he hadn't had his methadone for a couple of days (when he had), so i suppose slight withdrawal is possible and saving a couple of pills wouldn't be a bad idea. That can be difficult thought, my fiend always hides a couple of pills around his room for later or the next day, but he always ends up just taking them. Sometimes he forgets and finds then a day or two later which is always a nice surprise, like that half a temazepam, that must have been there for weeks. Actually, he is certain he has half a 10mg diazepam under his wardrobe and he is sure he has another temazepam somewhere, but he feels fine now and can't be fucked looking for them.

[TheNewLeft]

SWIM's not too worried about it....

5-6 days of moderate abuse can't produce withdrawal anywhere near as powerful as 5-6 months of massive abuse

i'm talking ativan, xanax, klonopin and imovane everyday with as much percocet and codeine as SWIM could get his greedy little hands on

[Laudaphun]

SWIM has just been prescribed 60 0.5mg alprazolam pills.

If i go through 30mg of Xanax is lets say 6-7 days will i experience any intense withdrawal symptoms?

I used to be addicted to Benzo's.....lorazopam and clonazopam...but I was taking upwards of 4mg a day for several months....and detoxing was hell.

but a short little xanax bender shouldn't be too rough right?

TheNewLeft added 81 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...

double post sorry


SWIM's marmoset used to take alprazolam in large doses like you speak of... a bottle of 90 would last only a few days. No withdrawl was ever noted. It's actually the smaller doses taken on a regular basis that will bite you in the ass. Probably depends on the individual, but would venture to guess that a person who used benzos very irregularly would not get withdrawl symptoms from only 6-7 days of use, with room for the occasional exception. Prior dependancy can make it easier for dependance to occur since the body will accomodate the drugs much quicker compared to a naive user, something to keep in mind perhaps.

SWIM's marmoset never noticed any sort of withdrawl symptoms from benzo use except when used daily for periods exceeding 30 days (even that was mild) [EDIT: doses were not huge (1-1.5mg alprazolam) and taken once per day], nor has she ever been through the dreaded benzo withdrawl (probably because she has never been deprived of them)... But, she keeps a big bottle of 25mg librium (chlordiazepoxide) capsules buried in the backyard in case such a thing happened. Chlordiazepoxide is the perfect safety net for SWIM's marmoset as she doesn't use them for anything other than a last line of defense, regardless of purpose. For some reason, they just aren't very appealing but do serve their purpose when all else fails. Been awhile since the marmoset has needed one.

[EDIT: The following is a particular case regarding SWIM's marmoset and not a generalization of how other marmosets may react]
SWIM has found that a few months of daily benzo use (a single, therapeutic-sized dose of a short-acting benzo) can go by without causing withdrawl symptoms upon discontinuation... but one month, two months... 6 months, 12 months of daily use can easily go by before someone realizes. Point is, "a few" months can turn into "many" months without a person realizing it... and this can be a blurry line... it "can" be a very subtle transition to dependancy. They are a very sneaky drugs.

[purplehaze]

SWIM's not too worried about it....

5-6 days of moderate abuse can't produce withdrawal anywhere near as powerful as 5-6 months of massive abuse

i'm talking ativan, xanax, klonopin and imovane everyday with as much percocet and codeine as SWIM could get his greedy little hands on

Space it out around 2-3 days in between.
Try not to ever do anything that has the capability of being physically addictive every day. Phaze did fall short some times and party with his friends and do it 2 consecutive days a few times.
But to avoid addiction completely why-not just do it one day and wait a couple days and do it again.

Most likely your not gonna develop an addiction to benzos if you eat the whole bottle in 1-2 days (not recommended)

Taking benzos every day is what causes addiction, i think its like .5Mg everyday for 7 Day's. Some low number.


Phaze found that with xanax to avoid addiction, for him he has a high tolerance to xanax naturally, he would dose around 10Mg for recreational effects and wait around 2-3 days before doing it again. The xanax did not ever give phaze a problem with withdrawal this way, as it was a massive dose spaced out for some time.

Phaze had a prescription to xanax for about 2 years total and never became addicted. Even after his doctor upped his dose and he was getting more pills and more mg.

It's important as you know to limit your use, going on a "binge" with xanax is not recommended by me. Phaze has seen his mother actually have seizures from xanax withdrawal, around 20 to be exact. One time she was walking into the hospital to visit phazes stepfather because he was in ICU he ran his car off the road and it blew up and threw him down a embankment and he had internal bleeding, phaze rushed to get there and his mother had a seizure on entrance. She was walking and just fell back-wards and busted her head on a concrete floor and was put in intensive care as-well. Thats just one story.

Its very important that you space it out, because why go through some shit like that, right?

Also you can't take them recretionally and to cure anxiety, its one or the other. If you dose high amounts at one point in the day and the next day take a low amount like .5mg just to take the edge off, thats still promoting your addiction even in a low dose.

If you take them as directed for anxiety then you shouldn't have much trouble coming off from them with a doctors care. If you take them as phaze described for recreational value you shouldn't have a problem.

Be safe, have fun. Payce.

[Laudaphun]

Space it out around 2-3 days in between.
Try not to ever do anything that has the capability of being physically addictive every day. Phaze did fall short some times and party with his friends and do it 2 consecutive days a few times.
But to avoid addiction completely why-not just do it one day and wait a couple days and do it again.

Most likely your not gonna develop an addiction to benzos if you eat the whole bottle in 1-2 days (not recommended)

Taking benzos every day is what causes addiction, i think its like .5Mg everyday for 7 Day's. Some low number.


Phaze found that with xanax to avoid addiction, for him he has a high tolerance to xanax naturally, he would dose around 10Mg for recreational effects and wait around 2-3 days before doing it again. The xanax did not ever give phaze a problem with withdrawal this way, as it was a massive dose spaced out for some time.

Phaze had a prescription to xanax for about 2 years total and never became addicted. Even after his doctor upped his dose and he was getting more pills and more mg.

It's important as you know to limit your use, going on a "binge" with xanax is not recommended by me. Phaze has seen his mother actually have seizures from xanax withdrawal, around 20 to be exact. One time she was walking into the hospital to visit phazes stepfather because he was in ICU he ran his car off the road and it blew up and threw him down a embankment and he had internal bleeding, phaze rushed to get there and his mother had a seizure on entrance. She was walking and just fell back-wards and busted her head on a concrete floor and was put in intensive care as-well. Thats just one story.

Its very important that you space it out, because why go through some shit like that, right?

Also you can't take them recretionally and to cure anxiety, its one or the other. If you dose high amounts at one point in the day and the next day take a low amount like .5mg just to take the edge off, thats still promoting your addiction even in a low dose.

If you take them as directed for anxiety then you shouldn't have much trouble coming off from them with a doctors care. If you take them as phaze described for recreational value you shouldn't have a problem.

Be safe, have fun. Payce.

Sound advice, stated in a much better way and more clearly than SWIM did. SWIY stated a personal example for his/her marmoset as SWIM did for her marmoset and both of these examples should be viewed as what someone else's marmoset can handle, manage medication, ect... People need to realize that their individual milage may vary (depending upon body chemistry, prior use and familiarity), and that the right dose/dosing schedule for one person will be different than another.

[c17h21no4]

i did a lot of xanax and benzos , those nasty nasty withdrawls that ppl fear so much , are present after months of daily use , actually more than a year , taking 0.25 at first till you use like 1mg daily ... after a year , quitting colk turkey is quite dangerous.
pretty nasty withdrawals may come after about 2 weeks of 2.5 mgs per day it's nothing that bad , edgy , agitated stuff like that , but it's not like quitting cold turkey will give you nasty seizures
there si a popular myth that quitting xanax cold turkey can be life threatning , well that's false , i hope that info was helpfull , and as a friendly advice , try not to use all your xanax in one run , get like 1 week off before you get to your second xanax run ... you'll avoid the anxiety and agitation once you run out

[todaywasyesterday]

As most people have said here, SWIM too also discourages Xanax binging. A very good friend of mine was in the depths of a benzo binge for months, and let me tell you, that guy totally lost himself for a while. The worst part about it was that he was so messed up on the stuff he didn't even realize how badly he was messing up. Benzo's are fun every now and then but doing them all the time is definitely not worth it unless you like the idea of yourself turning into the walking dead.

todaywasyesterday added 0 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

Aw crap I wish I could edit that last post. Dammit.

[Laudaphun]

i did a lot of xanax and benzos , those nasty nasty withdrawls that ppl fear so much , are present after months of daily use , actually more than a year , taking 0.25 at first till you use like 1mg daily ... after a year , quitting colk turkey is quite dangerous.
pretty nasty withdrawals may come after about 2 weeks of 2.5 mgs per day it's nothing that bad , edgy , agitated stuff like that , but it's not like quitting cold turkey will give you nasty seizures
there si a popular myth that quitting xanax cold turkey can be life threatning , well that's false , i hope that info was helpfull , and as a friendly advice , try not to use all your xanax in one run , get like 1 week off before you get to your second xanax run ... you'll avoid the anxiety and agitation once you run out

It most certainly is NOT a myth that quitting alprazolam or any other benzo cold turkey can be life-threatening. In fact it is very true that quitting any benzo cold-turkey is very dangerous and can cause death in a variety of ways. Why would you even say that??? Have you extensively studied the bodily mechanisms involved in the withdrawl of benzodiazepines from the body?

SWIM is refraining her marmoset from using curse words at the moment... Spreading false information is bad enough... but to claim that accurate information is false is <insert word here>... The marmoset is just going to shut up now, so as to not be accused of "flaming"...

[seeingred]

SWIM ovedosed on xanax, swim took many of them...well...the entire bottle of them... this was not a joke for recreational purposes it was an attempted suicide. After this there is a complete time gap. Somehow a whole bottle of wine got drunk, and spilled upon the floor, bruises appeared from swim's falling over, everything swim was actually doing things without actually knowing that swim was doing them. What would that be? Amenesia? Swim might have died or gone into a coma, the last memory was of IVs in swm's arm and then waking up in bed as with a band on her wrist as if nothing had happened...feeling very very calm and happy...that's what amnesia is like- happiness and feeling carefree...but that's just it. You don't care. Don't do Benzos recreationally because the habit will kill your sense of responsibility...and never mix it with alchohol...ODing can be fatal....this was a really half-assed unserious attempt, so...still swim was lucky that swim didn't lose it or something...


" Overdose Overdoses can be mild to severe depending on how much of the drug is taken and if any other depressants have been taken. Xanax overdose reflect the central nervous system depression of the brain and may include one or more of the following symptoms:


Somnolence (http://www.drugs-forum.com/wiki/Somnolence) (difficulty staying awake)
Mental confusion
Hypotension (http://www.drugs-forum.com/wiki/Hypotension)
Impaired motor functions

Impaired or absent reflexes
Impaired balance
Dizziness


Hypoventilation (http://www.drugs-forum.com/wiki/Hypoventilation) (Respiratory Depression)
Coma (http://www.drugs-forum.com/wiki/Coma)
Death (http://www.drugs-forum.com/wiki/Death)

About 50% of the cases of death involving alprazolam were attributed to combined drug toxicity of alprazolam and another drug, most often cocaine and methadone. Only 1% of such deaths was attributed to alprazolam alone.[32] (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/#cite_note-pmid15725773-31)"

seeingred added 6 Minutes and 52 Seconds later...

As most people have said here, SWIM too also discourages Xanax binging. A very good friend of mine was in the depths of a benzo binge for months, and let me tell you, that guy totally lost himself for a while. The worst part about it was that he was so messed up on the stuff he didn't even realize how badly he was messing up. Benzo's are fun every now and then but doing them all the time is definitely not worth it unless you like the idea of yourself turning into the walking dead.

todaywasyesterday added 0 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

Aw crap I wish I could edit that last post. Dammit.


The thing about someone binging on xanax is that suddenly all their cares just fade away.
Music becomes so much smoother sounding and soothing to the ears. Things are less sharp...less bright...
And all the anxieties have gone,mixed with other drugs you can achieve incredible highs and even hallucinate.
Caffeine Pills, Cigarettes, and then xanax seem to have a strange effect.
You are euphoric, peaceful, and it can make you aware of other things too, like spiritually...
But the seduction is the calming effect that it induces on you,
making you worry about nothing, sort of like heroin.
And caffeine seems to potentate most generic drugs, or does it? There isn't much fun
Though on it when you abuse it you just get withdrawal. Swim doesn't abuse it...

seeingred added 7 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...

SWIM's marmoset used to take alprazolam in large doses like you speak of... a bottle of 90 would last only a few days. No withdrawl was ever noted. It's actually the smaller doses taken on a regular basis that will bite you in the ass. Probably depends on the individual, but would venture to guess that a person who used benzos very irregularly would not get withdrawl symptoms from only 6-7 days of use, with room for the occasional exception. Prior dependancy can make it easier for dependance to occur since the body will accomodate the drugs much quicker compared to a naive user, something to keep in mind perhaps.

SWIM's marmoset never noticed any sort of withdrawl symptoms from benzo use except when used daily for periods exceeding 30 days (even that was mild) [EDIT: doses were not huge (1-1.5mg alprazolam) and taken once per day], nor has she ever been through the dreaded benzo withdrawl (probably because she has never been deprived of them)... But, she keeps a big bottle of 25mg librium (chlordiazepoxide) capsules buried in the backyard in case such a thing happened. Chlordiazepoxide is the perfect safety net for SWIM's marmoset as she doesn't use them for anything other than a last line of defense, regardless of purpose. For some reason, they just aren't very appealing but do serve their purpose when all else fails. Been awhile since the marmoset has needed one.

[EDIT: The following is a particular case regarding SWIM's marmoset and not a generalization of how other marmosets may react]
SWIM has found that a few months of daily benzo use (a single, therapeutic-sized dose of a short-acting benzo) can go by without causing withdrawl symptoms upon discontinuation... but one month, two months... 6 months, 12 months of daily use can easily go by before someone realizes. Point is, "a few" months can turn into "many" months without a person realizing it... and this can be a blurry line... it "can" be a very subtle transition to dependancy. They are a very sneaky drugs.


Hm, is that true for anti-psychotics? They are so much stronger in blocking things, and yet their half-life spans are put as sometimes 72 hours?
And about a few months to completely withdraw from effects....?

[Laudaphun]

SWIM's marmoset has no experience with anti-psychotics, however believes that the term "minor tranquillizer" is a bit misleading when it used to categorize benzodiazepines... Also, anti-psychotics or some of the so called, "major tranquillizers" or not typically abused as often as benzodiazpines. More often they are used therapeutically, and in these cases SWIM is guessing that a cocktail of medications would be used. SWIM has heard his psychiatrist telling patients on such cocktails of anti-psychotics and such that he likes to wait a good 3 months or so after removing one medication before changing any of the others.

SWIM would advise caution in experimenting with some of the powerful anti-psychotic drugs as most reports indicate that they can often lead to some rather prolonged and unpleasant experiences. SWIM's marmoset really has no "set in stone" advice about the "major tranquillizers" as I am assuming that is what you are referring to.