Your Thoughts On Adults Supplying Kids With Drugs

bubba3 · #1 06-12-2007, 09:33

SWIM knows some adults who arn't you that readily supply kids with various drugs. When I say "drugs" I don't mean weed because I KNOW that is common, and when I say kids I don't mean little ones I mean age 15+. When I say adult I'm not talking about adult by definition I mean like age 35+, someone older that should definitely know better. I am speaking of xanax, oxy, morphine, and klonopin primarily. One of them will also share cocaine, crack, and extacy with kids but not exactly supply. Do any of you know adults like this? Or parents like this?

ExtraordinaryMachine · #2 06-12-2007, 16:15

the first time swim did ecstacy it was a a friend's house and his dad came home while they were rolling and was all excited and told swim to drink orange juice and turned on music he said was amazing on x. he basically hung out the whole night talking about his own experiences with x and other drugs. then later, he brought out this huge bong and loaded a bowl which he said would make the comedown better. he was a pretty cool dude, but swim was baffled that any parent would be EXCITED that their kids were doing drugs.

sweetsugar · #3 08-12-2007, 00:11

where swim comes from the easiest drug to get hold of class A's, and thats not due to lack of contacts.. the streets are flooded with heroin & crack... when all one wants is a bag o' weed! Swim has come accross plently of dealers that are more than willing to sell any kind of drugs to kids, Swim keeps away from these kind..

Cakes · #4 08-12-2007, 03:18

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Or parents like this?

If they were bad I would not do them. and to exclude your child from what you do is to EXCLUDE your child no matter what you do.

EntheogenicTruth · #5 03-04-2008, 05:08

when swim was younger the guy who he got all his acid from was a fair bit older than he. swim did not find this in any way odd. i think that much older people dealing addictive drugs to children is not a good thing. terrible thing to do. especially as children are so impressionable.

*radiometer* · #6 03-04-2008, 05:14

This thread is baffling. What sort of discussion was the original poster trying to generate? What did Cake's reply mean?

Where's the "scratching my head" smilie?

RaverHippie · #7 03-04-2008, 05:40

I've had friends who have had amazing experiences with LSD + parents. It was immensely successful. I would call that an anomaly. For the child to want the drug, and the parents to knowingly allow the drug, excludes a very large proportion of average families. At Least a large percentage of those families I have encountered.

This wasn't a case of the adult just giving away the acid or father giving daughter acid, but a great emotional experience. I know of no friends of mine that have encountered the situation that was posed: someone of significantly older age being the supplier of harder drugs for younger kids. I would have serious ethical objections to such a practice if the older supplier did not act on some sort of judgment aside from profit motive when choosing who to sell to, or if they sold said items without giving any information concerning harm reduction.

EntheogenicTruth · #8 03-04-2008, 06:29

it really depends what you mean by harder drugs though, i define "hard" drugs as ones that have serious physical consequences or that develop dependency, whether psychological or physical. this means that "hard" drugs cover a large group of drugs and more importantly differ between people. oh well they are the ones that matter the ones which become problems.

RaverHippie · #9 03-04-2008, 08:07

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Originally Posted by EntheogenicTruth

it really depends what you mean by harder drugs though, i define "hard" drugs as ones that have serious physical consequences or that develop dependency, whether psychological or physical. this means that "hard" drugs cover a large group of drugs and more importantly differ between people. oh well they are the ones that matter the ones which become problems.

my definition of harder drugs was alluding to the classification given by the OP

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I am speaking of xanax, oxy, morphine, and klonopin primarily. One of them will also share cocaine, crack, and extacy with kids but not exactly supply.

EntheogenicTruth · #10 03-04-2008, 08:18

hmmm i see now. one has to try and identify the motives here. what does a dealer gain by selling kids xanax, oxy, morphine, and klonopin? addicted kids bludging money off their parents and other people causing a rift in proper society. hmmm?

RaverHippie · #11 03-04-2008, 08:52

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Originally Posted by EntheogenicTruth

hmmm i see now. one has to try and identify the motives here. what does a dealer gain by selling kids xanax, oxy, morphine, and klonopin? addicted kids bludging money off their parents and other people causing a rift in proper society. hmmm?

Honestly the more I give it thought I'm thinking, ethically, it should never happen, except in the parental scenario I outlined earlier.

EntheogenicTruth · #12 03-04-2008, 08:55

true, if the motives of the supplier were something other than profit from addicted children then im sure this maaaaay be alright however it would be best thinking ahead with something like this and implementing precautions to avoid long term addiction and safeguards to prevent serious harm should a serious addiction deveop.

tomazco · #13 03-04-2008, 10:53

Imagine it -

"Can I have some meth please"
"I'm going to see some ID... sorry the law says no drugs to under 18's... or over 18's for that matter"

**Lunar Loops** · #14 03-04-2008, 12:00

SWILL is with Radiometer on this one and no amount of head-scratching can make sense of it or what Cakes was saying.

Hard or not, SWILL thinks this is a no-brainer. Are we saying it is OK to give a powerful hallucinogen (which many would not consider a 'hard' drug) to children whose brains are not yet fully developed?

Supply implies nothing more than handing over goods for cash profit with no regard to the potential harm that may be caused to the customer. We may find this acceptable when it comes to an adult who we believe is responsible enough to make their own decisions, but kids?

VERY dangerous ground people when we are supposed to be biased towards harm-reduction.

Why was this thread resurrected anyway?

pinkandfluffy · #15 03-04-2008, 16:46

The kid dealers around here get their stuff from adults. Swim would defiantely turn his nose up at an adult giving a minor crack, heroin, PCP, meth, or any of the other baaaad stuff, but thinks that friendlier drugs, such as weed, E, and some hallucinogens would be acceptable, in moderate doses.

adzket · #16 03-04-2008, 18:14

if the adult that new them did not suply them they would get it else where so its best for them to do it as they no what and how much there taking.off course i do not agree with family members giving kids drugs as this is giving the wrong impression as it should be for the kid to find out as and when they want to

kaczynski · #17 03-04-2008, 18:22

It could be considered "irresponsible" if the individual was selling addictive drugs to naive, susceptible kids with the purpose of getting them hooked so she can scam more and more cash off of them...If it's just a dude who likes to do drugs and doesn't mind hooking other people up then it would be kind of hypocritical for SWIM of all people to criticize her