Real reasons to want to quit a drug (listed per drug)

[emanresu]

Hey. I'm noticing a large number of people with a simaler problem, including my boy swim. The problem is that a person may use a substance (in this case cocaine but it could be anything, really) and KNOW that they have to stop. They are running out of cash, worried about health, family, etc. Just getting tired of the substance. The person truthfully could quit if they wanted too... the BIG problem is they dont WANT to quit baddly enough. So basically, swim needs to want to quit, but cant figure out how becuase he/she likes the substance. Swim thought it would be helpfull for people if everyone who read this thread added a thought or two on why certain substances are not worth doing. This might help many people get up the motivation, or want, to quit using. Me first...

Cocaine- money trouble

Cocaine- nose health

Cocaine- education

Alcohol- avoiding a possibly serious disease or ten

please add your thoughts

[Matt The Funk]

Benzo's- tolerance and loss of effectiveness
Benzo's- recreational doses may cause SWIM to do stupid things

SWIM believes benzo's are great for anxiety, especially in conjunction with life style changes(which people often don't do, thinking a pill can solve all their problems), but after a short amount of time you will have to increase the dose, among other things.

[INSANEPOOKIE]

If SWIY has the cash: Visit one of those Ibogaine treatment centers and then let us know about the experience

If not that then perhaps:
*IF* SWIY is stable enough in mind and body -- dose with a moderate to high dose of LSD/Shrooms with the specific intention of addressing this issue. This may even require trusted person to simply be a "sitter" or even perhaps a guide.

However, SWIM would truly only recommend the latter if it was legal and available with the help of a professional. It's rather difficult to explain how effective the latter can be. If you read up on how LSD helped boozers in the past, it'll shed some light. It's not a cure all nor magic remedy mind you.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by Matt The Funk

Benzo's- tolerance and loss of effectiveness
Benzo's- recreational doses may cause SWIM to do stupid things

SWIM believes benzo's are great for anxiety, especially in conjunction with life style changes(which people often don't do, thinking a pill can solve all their problems), but after a short amount of time you will have to increase the dose, among other things.

Not to mention the withdrawal than can prove fatal. Even in thereputic doses, one can develop a physical dependence after just 2 weeks.

[Pino]

Weed - Condition, short term memory. Mental problems (e.g.: paranoia).

GHB - Nasty withdrawal, severely damaged sleep pattern due the dopamine rebound.

Speed like substances - Physical damage due to overheating, anorexia and heart problems. Damage to brain. All kind of mental problems. Insomnia. Egocentrism.

Opiates - The costs on the long term.

Dissociatives - Strange form of egocentrism. Possible damage to brain.

Coffee - Insomnia, stress. Panic disorders.

[Matt The Funk]

Caffeine-Ah, to the one who put caffeine. Thank you. SWIM thinks caffeine (coffee) is highly under estimated as a drug. SWIM has had nothing but positive since quitting caffeine use, and using it maybe 2-3 times a month.


In general SWIM thinks it's worth quitting habitual use of most drugs, and that responsible ocassional use is great. SWIM aslo agrees with the whole psychedelics being used to help get off stuff, and break addiction. IF somehow used correctly atleast. SWIM would like to see some research done on stubstances like LSD,"Shrooms", etc and Dissasociative for addiction.

[Perception Addict]

Originally Posted by INSANEPOOKIE

*IF* SWIY is stable enough in mind and body -- dose with a moderate to high dose of LSD/Shrooms with the specific intention of addressing this issue. This may even require trusted person to simply be a "sitter" or even perhaps a guide.

Swim is a huge believer in this, albeit only to those who possess a realization that they wish to make a change, and those with a strong enough sense of self that they will be able to take and benefit from the breakdown of their fears, insufficiencies, arrogancies, etc. As stated above, she would never suggest it to just anyone, it probably doesn't work for everyone.

This said, Swim has seen the positive effects of this in herself and others, not just for addictions, but for other serious life issues of anxiety, post traumatic stress disorder, and depression. It's certainly not fun as it happens, at least in her experience, as it forces one to look at oneself from a very different angle, but in her case it's worked, and later on she's felt extremely glad that such things happened (by accident, bad trip).

[Fight Club]

NIK has a high bottom. He never lost a job, got divorced, went to jail, spent money he didn't have, or injured himself or others. Instead IV cocaine addiciton caused depression and anxiety, and make him lie to himself and the people he loved. For the longest time, it was all he could think about.

FC

[emanresu]

yes all it really takes is realizing the fact that a given drug no longer brings you pleasure, just trouble. Why go out of your way to bring yourself problems?

[Paracelsus]

Pretty much all addicting drugs: Loss of personality & values. You become a simple animal following instincts. You told your social life to go fuck itself.

[Allalong]

Opiates: Physical dependence, post-addiction depression, Tremendous build up in tolerence.

Amphetamine: Sleep deprivation, heart problems, faulty memory and inablity to concentrate, aphasia.

[infekt]

heroin: waking up feeling like shit every morning, cant keep a job or a place to live, depression, lying cheating and stealing for money for dope

benzos: destruction of all relationships without remembering exactly how it happened, seizures from withdrawal (if not death), loss of capability to be responsible

[DMBRaven]

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

Pretty much all addicting drugs: Loss of personality & values. You become a simple animal following instincts. You told your social life to go fuck itself.

so true....unfortunately.

[stramonium]

Fortunately i don`t have the problems i used to have with drugs,but,saying that i have recently been playing with Tramadol to which i developed a habit over a month period and then used Kratom to wean myself off which worked,but now i`m over doing it with that.

Tramadol because i don`t like the thought of being reliant on it for my wellbeing.I also hate the shitty feelings of withdrawal.

Kratom because i can never sleep on the stuff and also because it creates a crutch for daily living which i hate,and the shitty feelings of withdrawal.

Compared to what i used to be like these problems are quite trivial.I was on Heroin,Cocaine,cannabis,alcohol...All four i abused the shit out of,and suffered the consequences`.

[_caesar_]

SWIM has found benzodiazipines great throughout most of his life, for sleep, relaxation and recreation. But unfortunately his addiction and increasingly large daily intake of alpralozam everntually lead to it controlliong his life, balancing a dose that will keep him in check for the day and sometimes slipping up resulting in complete dyscontrol i.e violence, destruction of property his own, the states (including exploding a police car?)

A real reason to quit.