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Old 09-10-2007, 04:35
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Something to get through the day...

So, SWIM is very thankful for stumbling apon this site and would like to say hello to everyone. Anyways, SWIM is pretty tired with societies bullshit; work and class. SWIM has never really done any hard drugs and never plans to. SWIM has tried cannabis, alcohol, DXM, and some others. SWIM is looking for something to get through his boring day and is open to ANY suggestions...
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:07
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Re: Something to get through the day...

hmm...what kind of effect is swiy looking for?

If this is for work/class am guessing maybe a stimulating effect for focus...or is work/class real completely unchallenging and one is looking for a downer to not get chill and not care about it?

Hos does legality play a role in this? Oh, just read say ANY suggestions so I am guessing swiy is willing to tread the line of legality?

What about opiates? Has swiy tried those? prescription opiates like oxyconting and mscontin are nice as they have a good amount of opiates in them and no acetomenophen as wth the -cets and the -dans and the like.

But these can be difficult to aquire...the king of egypt recently has gotten into cooked opium. He purchased P. Somniforum pods via a popular online auction site and followed the procedure layed out in this thread here: The Improved Guide for "flake - cooked" opium.


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OK, First one would like to thank everyone else's friends for the support SWIM received in the previous thread. One has created THIS thread as an improved guide at SWIM's request because he thought that the information that One provided was at some points a little vague and could be elaborated on for those whom wish to have more accurate research.

NEW IMPROVED IDIOT PROOF GUIDE FOR FLAKE or COOKED OPIUM!
- EVERYTHING mentioned in this guide will assume that one is starting with 10 grams of material and all calculation will be based on that starting amount, further calculations for different amounts are easily obtained by simple maths. This material can either be the latex (raw opium gum), poppy pods (either fresh or dried) and poppy seed. (One must mention here that SWIM says that although poppy seed can be used for this method, it produces a lower grade of resulting material. The reason it is mentioned here is because some SWIY's only have access to poppy seed.)

NOTE: At no point should ANY boiling or bubbling occur at any time, if it has then one would end up with something that is low grade at best.

STEP 1: For opium gum, cut it up into small match head size pieces - the same goes for fresh poppy heads. For dried poppy heads and / or poppy seed, grind it up into a coarse powder. The reason for this is that extraction takes place easier and quicker because alot of small particles have a larger surface area to extract from than one large particle.
STEP 2: You need a pot containing 10 times the weight / volume (W/V) of water than that of the starting material. Since hypothetically we are starting with 10 grams we will need 1000ml (1 liter) of water. (for 1 gram you would need 100ml, for 3 - 300ml etc etc). Bring this volume of water up to 70 degrees Celsius (158 F).
STEP 3: Add your material to this liquid and let it steep for 2 hours stirring occasionally. One should notice the level of the water on the side of the pot, if this level drops down due to evaporation then water is added from a warm kettle kept on hand during this period. (The reason SWIM has extended the time period is because different densities will extract at different rates, so 2 hours is preferred to allow for this.)
STEP 4: Once the steeping period is over the liquid should have gone an amber / brown color. Take it off the heat and strain it immediately through 4 stacked fine coffee filters. One will notice (for gum and fresh material) that a lot of gray wax-like sludge is left in the filter, this is a latex by-product and is discarded because it contains nothing of use. For dry material and seeds you will have the same wax like substance along with a heap of sludge left over from the ground pods or seeds, this is also now useless and should be discarded. The reason for it being strained immediately is because of heat expansion. Heat will expand all other particles in the liquid but the filter will not let them pass through, this filters almost everything except for the alkaloids and some other water soluble materials.
STEP 5: Once filtered off into another pot allow this liquid to cool to room temperature. This is where one needs to adjust pH level of the liquid. The pH of 7.00 is considered neutral at 25 ℃ (77 F) because at this pH the concentration of H3O+ approximately equals the concentration of OH− in pure water. pH below 7.0 is considered "acidic" and it is an acidic solution one needs to proceed. Adjust the pH of the liquid to 6.5 with citric acid once it has cooled to room temperature using pH test strips available from an aquarium and garden supply stores. The reason for the pH adjustment is that the week acid binds to specific opiates making them more active and in certain circumstances binding to an alkaloid making it into a higher level alkaloid. The pH also dictates how readily available the alkaloids are in the blood, for more information on this Google for pH.
STEP 6: preheat an oven to 50 degrees Celsius (122 F). Put the resulting pH adjusted liquid into shallow glass baking dishes. Place the baking dishes into the oven to allow the water content to be evaporated off. This is a safe way for evaporation to take place because the point at which opiate alkaloids are dispersed and destroyed into vapor is 80 degrees Celsius (176 F). This is also the reason why water extraction should take place at 70 degrees Celsius.
STEP 7: Once the liquid has lost almost all of its water content turn the oven off and open the oven door leaving the baking dishes in there so that the substance in the dishes can loose the rest of its water content naturally. This will usually happen rather rapidly as the oven and surrounding atmosphere cools. It is easy to visually determine when something has lost the majority of its water content, the liquid will appear to look muddy and "stiffer".
STEP 8: Once the material has lost all of its water content one would be left with an amber / brown crystalline substance on the bottom of the baking dishes. This is scraped up carefully (it is very light and can "flick" off into oblivion) with a plastic scraper, SWIM uses an old credit card . The resulting scraped up material is still rather pliable even though it is rather crystalline in appearance and is easily pushed back into a ball. When you do this the color of it gets a little darker again.
RESULT: If one has performed this correctly then one would be left with a substance known as "flake" or the "cooked" form of opium. When it is smoked correctly it should melt and vaporize pretty much the same as H does rather than slightly burn and and sizzle like raw opium. It should leave very little residue when smoked unlike raw opium which turns into a hard little ball once it is expended. This form is also good for eating, dissolving into liquid to drink, making capsules out of, etc etc. . . This is (in SWIM's opinion a little more dangerous because cooked opium is much more potent than poppy pod tea or poppy grounds in equivalent quantity. Smoking is more controlled in his opinion because you can start by smoking a smaller quantity and working your way up.
NOTE: If one were to want this process to go a little quicker one could evaporate off a fair amount of the water before introducing the liquid into the baking trays. If one is to do this the temperature should be kept at or under 70 degrees Celsius to prevent alkaloid loss. SWIM's opinion though is "the slower the evaporation and the lower the temperatures - the better the result".
APPROXIMATES: Water can contain only a certain amount of alkaloids before it reaches what is known as the "saturation point". This is the point at which no more alkaloids will be absorbed into the water because there are no bonding points left in the water to bind to. This usually occurs at around 500mg per 100ml @ 70 degrees Celsius. Once that bonding occurs no opiate molecule loss should occur if the solution is kept under that temperature. This is not to say that the molecules are not still in the solution as the water evaporates, it is merely stating that as the water evaporates the molecules then bond back onto themselves resulting in the cooked form of opium SWIM described. SWIM's tests and experience in equivalences seems to indicate that 1 gram of cooked opium contains around 500mg of opiate alkaloids. Research shows that farmed varieties of Papaver Somniferum contain on average around 10 to 15 percent morphine in that alkaloid content. Using this scale one would deduce that 1 gram of cooked opium would contain on average around 50mg of morphine. Therefor a match head sized piece weighing in at 0.1 grams should contain on average around 5mg of morphine (not including other alkaloids remember). Using the reverse mathematics should tell one the alkaloid content of the starting liquid once cooled and pH adjusted. Happy research and remember, this is all for research purposes only. SWIM and One are not suggesting in any way to perform this operation or to perform any activity deemed to be illegal in ones own country.

Hope this has helped more . . . . cheers
If one has opiate nieve as I am guess swiy is then this may have a great amount of downing effect on swim and make him unmotivated. but for swim he has a tolerance to opiates and likes to take between 0.5 and 2 grams orally to get a nice opiate euphoria going. This can help him get through his day.

In addition, swim has noticed tramadol to be a GREAT DRUG to make time past faster when are at work and it is somewhat stimulating for swim. It allows him to direct his energy to his school work and also wards off fatigue during his all nighters.

This brings us to adderall/speed/meth - Meth almost has only pure recreational value other than its appetite supressing effect, most swimmers would agree that it is not the top choice amp to use for focusing/studying, but if it all swiy can get it may help ward off fatigue, but the dose must be just right as if it is too high then swim is flying and wont get crap done. Swim cannot comment on dexamphetamine as he has never tried. For swim, his top choice amp is 30mg adderall XR....it is great for studying, it helps swim focus and study for tests, wards off fatigue, has a general sense of euphoria/well-being during nearly the entire duration and is more commonly prescribed than dextromethamphetamine and dexamphetamine. If swim has a low tolerance to amps when he takes it he will only take 1/2-2/3 of the 30 mg at t=0 and then will eat the rest later on if needed and in particular if he has a test he will be sure to take the rest (or part of it depending on how swim feels) about 2 hours before the test.

What else is there? Kratom.

Kratom has opiod effects and can be described as both stimulating and sedating. It seems that the sedating effects seem to take over at higher doses. The drawback to this is that it is traditionally prepared as a tea and drank, which is not convenient if one is at work/school...but alternatively one could pack the kratom into some '00' capsules (one capsule will hold ~0.5g material) and if swiy gets reasonably good kratom they may only need a gram or 2 to get the desired effects.

There are benzo's as well...but this aren't the best, at least for swim, at work/school as they are too sedating. One could play with the dose and be able to optimize the euphoria/feel-good effects without sacrificing sedation.

There are so many possibilities out there it is endless. You have a very good resource here no your hands...browse the forums, find out some info about the different substances. See what peaks your interests? Is swiy into psychedelics, euphoric productin compounds (those that affect seretonin like MDMA and those the affect dopamine like cocaine)...also opiates can have GREAT euphoria and one can feel more content in an opiate high than at any other time...swim is not sure of the pharmacology surrounding the euphoria they produce.

Tell Swiy good luck and remember that they have a great resource here if they take the time to use it wisely by thoroughly researching a subject before posting about it....senior members can tell if you have researched it and just dont understand or are too lazy to UTFSE (use the forum search engine) and simply start a new thread. People will care if you show you care and will actually enjoy helping you out, it is kind of like living vicariously through other swimmers when informaton that you add results in postive effects for them or their lab rats.
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Old 09-10-2007, 19:53
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Re: Something to get through the day...

SWIM is very appreciate of the great start point that has been provided. SWIM will be making use of UTFSE.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

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SWIM is very appreciate of the great start point that has been provided. SWIM will be making use of UTFSE.
no problem...FYI UTFSE = use the forum searching engine

i.e. SWIM will be making use of TFSE (the forum search engine)

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Re: Something to get through the day...

Swim thinks using drugs to fight the daily boredom isnt that great of a long-term recipe. Drugs are something to look forward to on the weekend or the occasional weekday fun, but centering your whole life around them is just asking for dependence. Anyway, swim has been there before, where he has had long periods of not much to do. Cannabis is probably one of the best options out there, it makes things so much more interesting. Opiates can work well too for this purpose, but swim doesn't really like being dulled out and much prefers the engagement of marijuana. Also using opiates on a daily basis probably isn't great. Stimulants will help you focus better on what you are working on, but if you don't find it interesting in the first place it wont help. Psychedelics are definitely an occasional thing. Maybe ketamine, many report liking dropping down the k-hole to relax and find looking forward to it through the day pleasurable.

Overall though swim would say if swiy finds his work and class boring, why not switch to a job and course of study that swiy finds more interesting?
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Re: Something to get through the day...

Yeah dude, there is no reason why your life has to be boring. Don't rely on drugs as your only way of having fun, that is just asking for problems.

On topic, if SWIY wants to stay legal, maybe SWIY could try LSA? Or if SWIY doesn't care about the ridiculous laws in todays world, SWIY could try making some mescaline. There is a good tek in the mescaline forum. I recommend this because it would take a bit of effort (not too much, and barely any chemistry knowledge) and would give SWIyou something to look forward to when SWIyou finishes the extraction.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

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Also using opiates on a daily basis probably isn't great.

Taking opiates daily is a BAD IDEA, even if a doctor tells you to, although if it takes away the pain away the user has a real problem and is being monitered by a doctor. This WILL cause addiction, I cannot think of any opiate that does not cause physical dependence.

If one even were to take these for only 4 or so days in a row they will probably experience physical withdrawal along with the almost certain "physicological addiction" that comes from simply wanting the high; while physical withdrawal from opiates can be horrible (dry heaves, sweating, irritability, inability to eat, vomiting, diahrea, cold chills, hot flashes, etc., etc., etc.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

SWIM definately worded it a bit wrong. SWIM was more or less looking for something for energy, focus, and motivation when needed.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

This sounds more along the lines of a nootrope stack. I'd recommend you check out the Nootropics forum, specifically Piracetam which seems to be an impressive drug for most who try it.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

Indeed. SWIM has been doing some research and has taken an interest in Nootropics, Kratom, Adderall, Tramadol, and Coca Leaf.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

...but if SWIY fails to find a nootropic to help....

....SWIM would actually recommend Caffeine and Thebaine, and a little teeny bit of Cocaine.... worked wonders for SWIM (only tried it once though, apparently) when he needed a lift.

EDIT: Caffeine & Thebaine in tea.
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Re: Something to get through the day...

Swim hears very good things about provigil. From reports he has seen it produces a very high quality of focus, and studies show that it lacks the same level of dependence or crashing/jitteriness associated with amphetamines.
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Alprazolam.
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