View Full Version : Drug info - 10ml vial Diazepam(valium) Injection question: How best to take?
CHLHockey
02-08-2007, 01:26
"My Flamingo" has recently obtained a 10ml. vial of Diazepam(Valium) Injection liquid.
I was wondering if Diazepam Injection liquid could be heated on a hot plat and turned to powder like Ketamine, then snorted in bumps or lines?
The crazy bird has tried to do as much research as possible and just found out that most commonly people just get diazepam in pill form. Its then taken orally. Or that it comes in a drinkable liquid, that people also take orally. So besides the obvious taking the 10ml vial through IM/IV, which "My Flamingo" is not going to do... She's just wanting to know whats the best way to take the Diazepam Injection Liquid?
each ml. of Diazepam Injection contains 5mg of Diazepam. Do people heat the injection liquid to a powder and make it snortable?
huh how did you get bad rep already?
theoretically you should be able to evap the liquid and snort,but eyeballing a mg dose is impossible.it would probably be best to inject.
CHLHockey
02-08-2007, 01:37
I guess a asked a question the rong way. sorry
i dont see anything wrong with how you asked it,whats it say in your rep area under user cp? i have no knowledge of diazapam but most chems suspended in a liquid you can put on a plate with another plate on top of it and microwave at 5-10 sec intervals while letting it cool in between heating and it should leave a pile of powder behind.just remember 50mg isnt alot of powder and your not going to need much.you should dilute it and use a syringe to dose it under your tounge just do the math to figure out exactly how much you have in each dose.
CHLHockey
02-08-2007, 02:00
I wonder after it turns to powder if its snortable like Ketamine. I can just see that burning like a mother f**ker.
shouldent be much worse then normal diazapam,it would probly be best to add a inert powder,look for manitol at a health food store,add a known amount then it should be alot safer to snort/judge a dose.
doper_hero
02-08-2007, 02:46
Yeah it shouldn't be very bad (burn) because it will just be pure daizepam (mybe sodium too if the solution is saline). It would be more intense and its clean just get a clean needle. It's safe medical solution you won't get sick if you do it right.
CHLHockey
02-08-2007, 10:12
"My Flamingo" told me she used the hot plate technique and turned the Diazepam Injection liquid to a powder. She snorted a bump of it and didnt feel anything. Is that normal? I guess it burned her nose pretty bad too. Does anyone know of any good legal cutting powders to mix with the Diazepam powder so it dosnt burn so bad, and where to get them in the US?
Nagognog2
02-08-2007, 11:55
Source discussions are not allowed.
Diazepam is not very water soluable and is therefore fairly innefective to snort. My advice is to tell your flamingo to take it orally, sublingually or look into rectal administration.
If he still had it in solution in a sealed vial IM (or indeed IV) injection would have been an option.
CHLHockey
02-08-2007, 22:16
could My Flamingo put the now turned powder into a drink and take it orally that way?
Ontherooftops
03-08-2007, 01:49
there are many many reports which indicate, as SWIfnord said, that benzodiazepines are best taken sublingually.
CHLHockey
03-08-2007, 06:29
How does Swim do under the tounge? Whats the process?
1.)open mouth
2.)lift tounge
3.)place desired substance under tounge
4.)allow to sit for a min or two.try allow saliva to get under tounge/dont swallow.
5.)relax
Pomzazed
03-08-2007, 13:52
6.) resist some weird taste (often bitter!)
The firecat is not joking:P just tell swiy to prepare.
rocksmokinmachine
03-08-2007, 18:22
injectable vials are quite rare to come across, SWIY is very lucky. Inject it IV
Psych0naut
03-08-2007, 23:17
If one wants to inject a benzodiazepine intravenously, please don't forget to inject it very slowly, due to respiratory depression when injected to fast.
iv formulations of diazepam can also be quite irritant to veins, so slow injection is important for that reason too.
CHLHockey
04-08-2007, 22:37
Ok so Swim should take the now turned powder and place under tongue? Should Swim mix with a little water or anything? After a few minutes does Swim swallow the Diazepam or spit it out?
Nagognog2
04-08-2007, 22:53
Umm...err...SWIM lets it absorb. SWIM doesn't spit it out.
I love what the public school system is doing to serve our communities...(he says, hitting himself over the head repeatedly with a hammer)
CHLHockey
06-08-2007, 01:26
Swim took a nice size bump of Diazepam powder and placed it under his tounge last night and felt a little relaxed and sleepy but nothin to intense or as intense and Swim would like it to be. Swim was wondering if you could smoke the Diazepam Injection powder in a bowl of bud and feel the effects better?
Nagognog2
06-08-2007, 02:23
No. Do not smoke diazepam. It simply breaks down into unknown, and possibly, toxic by-products.
rocksmokinmachine
06-08-2007, 12:46
SWIM thinks IV formulations should really be injected IV, after all thats what its meant for. As previously mentioned just go steady with it, SWIY won't be dissapointed.
CHLHockey
09-08-2007, 07:36
Swim tried the Diazepam Injection powder under the tongue twice now. Still no effects it seems. How much should Swim take? The first time Swim took a little bump, about the size of a Yay-Yo bump and held it under the tongue until it completly dissolved. The second time Swim took about a double bump. still nothing. Swim's scale are broken. so if any one can give advice on dosage try to compare to a teaspoon or something. Thanks
rocksmokinmachine
10-08-2007, 20:33
mg's are very hard to measure by eye. If i was SWIY i'd buy a new set of scales. Why doesn't SWIY just IV it and write us all a report? :)
10mg sublingually should definetely produce noticeable results.
CHLHockey
12-08-2007, 08:43
mg's are very hard to measure by eye. If i was SWIY i'd buy a new set of scales. Why doesn't SWIY just IV it and write us all a report? :)
Swy's just not that big on shooting up drugs. Honestly it scares the hell outa me. No-ones given Swy a shot except his Doctor... lol :thumbsup:
rocksmokinmachine
12-08-2007, 12:56
I agree with SWIY there. SWIM does not like IV'ing drugs he does not know the potency of, but when it comes to a pharmaceutically pure vial of diazepam which is relatively safe when used correctly (and not in combination with other CNS depressants I might add) SWIM would jump at the chance!
Many lab monkeys do not feel low doses of diazepam under 20mg, but then again some are sensitive to it. I think this would be a good starting dose. If it does not work sublingually for SWIY then why not just try using it orally?
CHLHockey
13-08-2007, 03:17
I agree with SWIY there. SWIM does not like IV'ing drugs he does not know the potency of, but when it comes to a pharmaceutically pure vial of diazepam which is relatively safe when used correctly (and not in combination with other CNS depressants I might add) SWIM would jump at the chance!
Many lab monkeys do not feel low doses of diazepam under 20mg, but then again some are sensitive to it. I think this would be a good starting dose. If it does not work sublingually for SWIY then why not just try using it orally?
Could Swy just drawl out the Diazepam Injection liquid with an oral suringe and squirt it under swy's tounge. Say around 10-20 cc/ml and just hold it for a few minutes to let it absorbe and get the effects that way?
CHLHockey
13-08-2007, 03:21
Could Swy just drawl out the Diazepam Injection liquid with an oral suringe and squirt it under swy's tounge. Say around 10-20 cc/ml and just hold it for a few minutes to let it absorbe and get the effects that way?
Scratch that *** I mean 2 to 4 cc/ml (5mg Diazepam per mL)***
rocksmokinmachine
13-08-2007, 08:58
Yes SWIM thinks this could work, try about 4cc under SWIyour tounge and tell us all how it turns out.
SWIM thinks this could work even better than sublingual administration with a tablet, less surface area = quicker absoption right?
CHLHockey
13-08-2007, 09:52
Before Swim just hauls off and does this Swim would really not like to be the first to try this, though swims sure he's prolly not.
Has anyone out there ever done this with straight Diazepam Injection Liquid?
The Injection Liquid turned powder Swim said tastes horrible and burns a little under the tongue but is managable. Would the straight Injection liquid held under the tongue be hella worse?:s
rocksmokinmachine
13-08-2007, 09:55
SWIM can't say for sure as he's never come across vials. Like he said previously he would just go IV. SWIM is sure it is no different from sublingual administration of diazpeam tablets, and there is already a thread on this.
CHLHockey
13-08-2007, 10:04
SWIM can't say for sure as he's never come across vials. Like he said previously he would just go IV. SWIM is sure it is no different from sublingual administration of diazpeam tablets, and there is already a thread on this.
Each time Swim has done sublingual the Diazepam powder isnt a crushed pill its the Injection liquid from a vial heated on a hot plate and then turned to powder. Is that ok? Is it the same as a sublingual crushed pill?
CHLHockey
14-08-2007, 11:06
Has anyone out there ever done this with straight Diazepam Injection Liquid?
The Injection Liquid turned powder Swim said tastes horrible and burns a little under the tongue but is managable. Would the straight Injection liquid held under the tongue be hella worse??
the taste would be less intense and easier to measure out a safe/fun dose.
CHLHockey
23-08-2007, 09:25
Ok thanks alot! Swim has been waiting for a reply for a long time:(. Ok Swim knows he's already kinda touched this subject but has one more question about Sublingial Dosing. After the liquid/powder is under the tongue and its starting to absorb. Swin knows he's not suppose to swallow it,, it should all just absorb,, but your saliva glands keep producing spit. So slowly you develope alot of spit in your mouth do you swallow that??? you almost gotta it seems? Is there any harm in swallowing Diazepam (Injection Liquid)??
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