3 Years since i last touched a drug, Here are my Side Affects

[caffiend]

BackGround Info:

I got into the "rave" scene when i was 18.

for 1.5 years, i did an occasional MDMA pill every other week.

when i hit the age of 19.5, i started to do Ketamine along with MDMA, every week for a duration of 6 months.

that's when it hit me, at the age of 20, i realized that i was pissing away my life. I quit, but the side affects haunt me til this very day and will for the rest of my life. I am now 23 years old.

My problems didnt start until i started doing Ketamine. Please if you would read anything in this entire thread, read this:

STAY AWAY FROM snorting anything, its something about snorting that will just fuck you up and change your appearance


Side Affects:

Where am i now? This is what happened to me.

-My memory fucking sucks
-I got fat muscle, id like to call fuscle, in my arms, my face cheeks, and my butt.
- My teeth is weaker. I have noticed two calcium deficient spots on my teeth already, perhaps from the meth in the E pills
- Hairloss pinpointed exactly after i stopped all the drugs. It's as a chemical in the ketamine just triggered my dormant Male Pattern Baldness Gene. It probably shouldnt have been activated so early. If i follow my dad's baldness, i would have started at 35-40. because its been triggered now, ill be bald by 35-40
- I havent grown in height in 3 years
- Ive developed dark circles under my eyes, im assuming another side affect of ketamine, increasing my allergy sensitivities
- Mild acne on my face and back
-Poor skin health and pigmentation

Now that is a heavy burden to live with.

Problems and Solutions?:

Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can recooperate from all this?

I am currently dieting, nutritional supplements, hairloss supplements, dark circle creams, exercise for fat (btw i exercised so much that i weigh the same as i did in highschool yet i still look alot fatter than when in highschool)

For me, life sucks right now, and ive hit a really low point. If anyone could help me out i would greatly appreciate it... thanks

David

[enquirewithin]

First off, please read the rules. Don't incriminate yourself.

Why blame all these problems on something that happened years ago? No grows taller when they are 23!! Everyone gets older and changes. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something with your life. 23 is very young, life is full of potential. SWIM wished he had that much life ahead of him!

It sounds like you are depressed about issues other than what you did a few years ago.

[MrG]

Originally Posted by caffiend

-I got fat muscle, id like to call fuscle, in my arms, my face cheeks, and my butt.
- My teeth is weaker. I have noticed two calcium deficient spots on my teeth already, perhaps from the meth in the E pills
- Hairloss pinpointed exactly after i stopped all the drugs. It's as a chemical in the ketamine just triggered my dormant Male Pattern Baldness Gene. It probably shouldnt have been activated so early. If i follow my dad's baldness, i would have started at 35-40. because its been triggered now, ill be bald by 35-40
- I havent grown in height in 3 years
- Ive developed dark circles under my eyes, im assuming another side affect of ketamine, increasing my allergy sensitivities
- Mild acne on my face and back
-Poor skin health and pigmentation

Now that is a heavy burden to live with.

Excercise regularly, eat a healthy diet and XXX.

[Rio Fantastic]

It's quite easy to blame everything on the drugs, but in reality, these problems that you attribute to drug use could just be the "side effects" of growing older. I mean blaming what you call "fuscle" on MDMA and Ketamine is just absurd!

[caffiend]

so are you guys saying that these drugs dont have side effects? no possibility to alter the way your body is? spark dormant genes? how about the fact that i look drastically different from before i used drugs? i mean look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEFPdNv2Ddk . from that vid it seems like alot of people go through changes, especially the texture and quality of their skin... its like the body is unable to absorb nutrients more efficiently than before. i am just throwing out my experiences maybe someone on this board can relate?

btw who/what is SWIM???????

[Creeping Death]

You're saying that people use drugs and get hooked on meth. And use it for years without any other part of their lifestyle changing. You think for example that meth addicts eat the same foods and nutritions as they did before they became hooked? Or that they get the exact same amount of sleep regularly as they did before they got hooked?

This is what changes their appearence. Theres not an uglyness molecule in drugs.

[rsxlover05]

creeping death has a point, ppl who uses meth have dramatically physical changes because they change the way they live and eat. dont blame the drugs, blame yourself for getting involve.

[rxbandit]

Did you notice how the last guy in the video turned into Mr. Bean after using Meth??? Looks like a good credible source...(note that the youtube video you linked is in the comedy section.) Meth is alot different then ecstasy and ketamine. You should probably do some more research and make sure the sources from which this research comes from are credible( has citations and such).

The above suggestions of exercise and nutrition should remedy these problems.

[Pondlife]

I doubt that the drugs you did have been solely responsible for all of the things you mention: there are just too many other factors involved, and some of the things are too subjective. It's pointless trying to prove or disprove this anyway, and I would advise you not to try as no good will come of it.

Think of it this way: your life starts today, and you hold the cards that you have been dealt. From what I see in your post, those cards are a lot better than many other people have, and you still have the majority of your life ahead of you.

There are many people who suffer setbacks in their life (I would say it's the vast majority). Some of them get bitter, while others make the best of what they have. Guess which group get more out of life.

I'd suggest that you read some biographies of people who have lived full and interesting lives. Start off with Franklin Roosevelt - the polio victim who became one of the best US presidents of the 20th century. Then try Winston Churchill - he resigned after the disastrous Gaillipoli landings, and then came back to lead Britain to victory the second world war against enormous odds.

Finally, don't think of yourself as a victim. I believe that this is one of the most self-destructive outlooks that there is, and for some reason it's remarkably compelling. It's strange how people need someone or something to blame for their ills, and it does make some people feel better, but ultimately it's not a healthy thing to do.

[spacemanshan]

the red spots on ppls face is i think because they pick at it when theyre on meth. and the gray circles around your eyes, from days without sleep? shudda just stuck with coke, unharmful.

[Lehendakari]

It is very unlikely those symtoms are a consequence of Ketamine and MDMA use. Only if SWIY was using poor materials contaminated with nasty shit, but symtoms should have stopped when SWIY quit. Do what MrG says.

[madpad]

Swim did stupid amounts and combinations of drugs, mainly iv, without these sort of problems for many years.
In fact the problems only really started when swims viral problems were treated with prescription meds, and boy did they start, but that's another story.
Most people get away with it for years as the body is pretty good at repairing any damage you do to it unless you're very unlucky or take huge risks.

[KBLSD]

Originally Posted by MrG

Excercise regularly, eat a healthy diet and stop fucking whining.

eating healthy exercising and keep good hygiene and most of your problems will go away i dont know about the hair loss tho

[spacemanshan]

REAL coke is a lot less harmful and less addictive than cut coke, because of the ephedrine, and other amphetamines... and there are no physical withdrawals like heroin, such flu like symptoms, DAYS after you've already quit.

[Nacumen]

Originally Posted by caffiend

BackGround Info:

I got into the "rave" scene when i was 18.

for 1.5 years, i did an occasional MDMA pill every other week.

when i hit the age of 19.5, i started to do Ketamine along with MDMA, every week for a duration of 6 months.

that's when it hit me, at the age of 20, i realized that i was pissing away my life. I quit, but the side affects haunt me til this very day and will for the rest of my life. I am now 23 years old.

My problems didnt start until i started doing Ketamine. Please if you would read anything in this entire thread, read this:

STAY AWAY FROM snorting anything, its something about snorting that will just fuck you up and change your appearance

Snorting HCl salts will erode and damage your nasal septum, definitely. But your outside appearance? I don't think it's whatsoever likely.

Side Affects:

Where am i now? This is what happened to me.

-My memory fucking sucks
MDMA has been shown in some studies to cause short term memory loss. Strangely, in duplicated studies, no memory loss was found in the test subjects. If memory loss was caused by MDMA, I think it is quite unlikely that the effects are still persistent 3 years later.
-I got fat muscle, id like to call fuscle, in my arms, my face cheeks, and my butt.
I'm not sure what this is so I guess I can't really say that ketamine/mdma/methamphetamine didn't cause it, but... my personal opinion is that it probably didn't. Do you eat a nutritious diet high in protein? If not, you may want to consider doing so.
- My teeth is weaker. I have noticed two calcium deficient spots on my teeth already, perhaps from the meth in the E pills
There's a common misconception that methamphetamine has dangerous side effects to your teeth. The habits of methamphetamine users (drinking extreme amounts of sugar sodas for that good-feeling glucose, staying up for days on end without brushing your teeth) are what cause these side effects. In your case, these issues appear to be completely unrelated to drug use, even indirectly so.
- Hairloss pinpointed exactly after i stopped all the drugs. It's as a chemical in the ketamine just triggered my dormant Male Pattern Baldness Gene. It probably shouldnt have been activated so early. If i follow my dad's baldness, i would have started at 35-40. because its been triggered now, ill be bald by 35-40
Baldness follows the mother's side of the family. It's a genetic trait. If ketamine could advance the onset of this, we would probably know about it, because it would give hope to pharmaceutical companies trying to make billions by finding a chemical which essentially has the opposite effect and slows the onset. Additionally, many young men naturally begin to lose hair at this age.
- I havent grown in height in 3 years
Not growing in height from ages 20 to 23 is not something to be worried about. This is, in fact, normal.
- Ive developed dark circles under my eyes, im assuming another side affect of ketamine, increasing my allergy sensitivities
This may be a sign that you are fatigued. Try to get those 8 hours (you might not feel tired with less but your body will be), eat better, and see if the circles go away.
- Mild acne on my face and back
This could be caused by genetics, a lack of hygiene, or both.
-Poor skin health and pigmentation
This could be caused by genetics, a lack of hygiene, insufficient nutrition, or any combination of the above.

Now that is a heavy burden to live with.

Problems and Solutions?oes anyone have any suggestions on how i can recooperate from all this?

I am currently dieting, nutritional supplements, hairloss supplements, dark circle creams, exercise for fat (btw i exercised so much that i weigh the same as i did in highschool yet i still look alot fatter than when in highschool)

Looks like you should eat more food, and nutritious food at that. You can become healthy. Don't lose confidence. Browse some nutrition forums on the web or talk to a professional nutritionist for more help on that subject.

For me, life sucks right now, and ive hit a really low point. If anyone could help me out i would greatly appreciate it... thanks

David

You did the right thing by asking someone for help for your situation. You should really consider seeing a doctor if you believe your health is in such bad shape. Good luck mate.

[enquirewithin]

Being healthy is not all that a person needs. I've been through times of being very healthy physically (ie, exercising intensively) but been unhappy because I was lonely. Perhaps SWIcatfiend needs to find a partner?