General Tolerance?

[griffin3141]

Is it possible for someone to be generally tollerant to most drugs? Swim has tried his share of them, and he never seems to reach the same state that many others do under the influence of the same drugs and the same (and sometimes even smaller) doses.

For example, Swim took mushrooms and did not experiance any visuals (although it was still fun), while his friend (who took a lower dose of the same batch) saw unicorns on the ceiling. Salvia does nothing to swim even using a bong, tourch lighter, and taking a big hit from a bong and holding for 20+ seconds. Weed makes Swim really chill, but he never gets to the state where everything is hillarious. 20mg of Valium didn't even make Swim tired. And Swim (who is 150 lbs) can take much more alcohol than his 200 lb brother.

Why might a skinny guy like me have such tollerance?

[Salvinorin A]

Yes SWIM has heard of such. SWIM has a friend in arizona who's even resistant to alcohol.

By the time he feels effects, he has a BAC that puts him in the hospital. Marijuanna is minimal for him, barely any visuals from shrooms or acid.

However, he does get true hallucinations with salvia, so he isn't tolerant to everything.

Sal-A

[TMM]

My abominable snowman thought he was like this, having a generally high tolerance to everything and never having any visuals. Alcohol was a slight exception to this, ie. he was lightweight in terms of effects, but always had perfect memory of his experiences and was (thankfully) incapable of getting so drunk that he blanked out most of the night, unlike some of his friends ( <_<). This was, however, until a couple of weeks ago, when he experienced a Mescaline trip that had absolutely no right to be as strong as it was, from only 20g of Peruvian Torch cactus, with his first ever true (and quite strong) visuals.

Anyway, though... is SWIY doing normal Salvia leaf? That would explain it, especially if SWIY only took one hit, which is never enough, even with high-strength extract. Tell SWIY to get some 20x and take 3 of the biggest hits ever, but be very careful about the dosages. The purpose of extracts is not to make the trip stronger, but to get the same effects with less smoke. Btw, using a bong will probably make it slightly weaker. I think, but don't quote me on this, that small amounts of the Salvinorin A are dissolved in the water.

If SWIY's tolerance levels continue like this, I can't offer any explanation for it, but I can offer some advice if you want to get the most out of your experiences. When taking something orally, effects are nearly always greatly increased on an empty stomach. Try it out, and SWIY will be surprised at the extent to which this can make a difference.

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by griffin3141

Is it possible for someone to be generally tollerant to most drugs? Swim has tried his share of them, and he never seems to reach the same state that many others do under the influence of the same drugs and the same (and sometimes even smaller) doses.

For example, Swim took mushrooms and did not experiance any visuals (although it was still fun), while his friend (who took a lower dose of the same batch) saw unicorns on the ceiling. Salvia does nothing to swim even using a bong, tourch lighter, and taking a big hit from a bong and holding for 20+ seconds. Weed makes Swim really chill, but he never gets to the state where everything is hillarious. 20mg of Valium didn't even make Swim tired. And Swim (who is 150 lbs) can take much more alcohol than his 200 lb brother.

Why might a skinny guy like me have such tollerance?

SWIY's friend didn't see unicorns on the ceiling when he took mushrooms. He was clearly exaggerating. People tend to have a pre-conceived notion that mushroom visuals produce random things that simply aren't there. Basically they expect the entire experience to look like a psychedelic cartoon of some sort hence the idiots you hear describing "cartoon acid" and so forth. Mushroom visuals are based on fractals and a minor alteration of perception where objects and surroundings may seem brighter or more profound. There's no pink elephants.

Now it's quite unusual for SWIY not to feel any effects off salvia. For SWIM, who generally has a strong set of inhibitions when it comes to using most drugs, salvia definitely puts him in another place. Perhaps SWIY should try a stronger extract and ensure that they inhale properly. You shouldn't need a torch lighter or a huge bong. SWIM has had incredible experiences with Sally using a simple apple pipe and a disposable Bic lighter.

As for fits of laughter on weed, when you smoke for long enough, you realise that these fits of laughter are rare and probably happen when one's not used to the effects of cannabis. They happen every once in a while, when something funny happens I guess, but it's not like weed equals laughter.

20mg of valium is not really that much. It isn't entirely surprising that SWIY didn't feel anything because valium's effects are subtle enough as they are in low doses.

[x cynic x]

Perhaps harder drugs like coke are Swiy's calling? Or perhaps no drugs at all . . .

[keats]

SWIM thinks this is a very interesting question regardless, though. You're far from the first person to ask this, and while I don't know the answer I have definately had friends who seemed to have a higher tolerance to nearly every drug, and other friends who were lightweights to everything. Alcohol does sometime prove to be an exception (for example SWIM's ex girlfriend could take 50% larger doses of marijuana, hallucinogens, amphetamines, and DXM, and equal doses of cocaine and opiates, but he could drink her under the table easily) but that's largely because alcohol is very weight/gender dependent in addition to built up tolerance.

Last year SWIM, his gf, SWIM's roomate, and his gf (these pronouns are getting confusing!) would often have smoke sessions with a vaporizer. They all probably smoked about the same amount on a given day, but for some reason SWIM's gf would always be the least high, followed by SWIM, followed by SWIM's roomate, followed by SWIM's roomates girlfriend. SWIM didn't do as many drugs with this girlfriend, but she definately had a higher tolerance to shrooms and MDMA, though he thinks the fact she took an SSRI might have something to do with that. SWIM's roomate's gf, by contrast, would litterally have 1 or 2 vaporizer hits and be higher than all of us after a 3 or 4 bowl session. She also couldn't even do hallucinogens because she freaked out both times. Honestly we were all jealous of her, would have saved a loooot of money if we could keep that low of a tolerance.

There definately seems to be some sort of cross drug tolerance factor (with some people, but then there are a lot of people, like SWIM, who seem to be on par with the majority of other drug users) which is a real phenomenon. Would be curous to hear others experiences with this.

[Kakkoii]

SWIM has a general tolerance like you speak of also.

When SWIM was 14, he could drink a litre of vodka and still be sober enough to fool a cop. Although swim was teetering on alcohol poisoning if swim wanted to get very wasted. So swim would have to smoke some marijuana along with it to help with a high.

SWIM is this way with all drugs, It generally takes swim twice as much as other people, to achieve the same effects.

Perhaps some people just have stronger minds then others, and aren't so easily influenced by chemicals in the brain.

[Kheribus]

SWIM generally has to take 2x as much as everyone else to be "right there with them."

SWIM knows from generally testing this hypothesis his whole life.

SWIM is angry, SWIM is broke, SWIM would like to save money on these mammoth doses.