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Old 19-07-2007, 04:03
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My llama, Diego Garcia, is taking Focalin XR. And I would like to learn more about this drug specifically, and how it can be compared to Ritalin and Concerta so that I may help Diego benefit most efficiently and safely from his medication.

I have read that d-methylphenidate is the primary active form of mph, and that regular ritalin is 50% d-mph. This means that x mg's of Focalin (d-mph) is best compared to 2x mg's of Ritalin??? Is it a reasonable way of learning about Focalin by reading about Ritalin if this principal is kept in mind?

If anyone can post a simple method of extracting (freebasing) d-mph, I'm sure Diego would like to read it. (He is interested in simple chemistry teks. I told him that he is a llama and should focus more on eating grass and spitting, but he is a stubborn llama.)

Diego had a limited experiece snorting Focalin XR and has not since. He complained about the drip being unpleasant and was unconvinced that innsuflating it was the best use of it. However, he has heard good things about it and would like to hear what more experienced llamas think about it. Or any tips that could be useful.

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A request: Please do not post things like, "Ritalin is worthless... Concerta ruined my life... Amphetamines are better..." This is a common theme in some of the related threads. You can make a whole new thread for your dislike of mph if you feel strongly about it. Diego will decide what Diego likes.
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Old 28-08-2007, 12:15
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Re: Focalin vs. Ritalin (and more)

ritalin makes swim sick, atleast after swims experience with focalin XR. that 1/2 potent and only being a d-isomer seems very misleading, and does it no justice. SWIM can't speak for regular focalin but focalin xr, when crushed is night and day compared to ritalin. Was it really the inactive isomers causing the harsh comedowns and zombie-depression ritalin gave? and the crap tolerence? Seems unlikely, but it got rid of the stomach aches. SWIM can sleep on focalin, and have a very gradual comedown. The high lasts what seems just as long as the XR taken normally. give or take an hour. SWIM likes to swallow 15mg and insuffulate 15 20 minutes later. Sometimes he doesn't even know he came down and can sleep, sometimes he'll take a klonopin. SWIM gets things done on focalin, without feeling depressed or like a zombie doing repetitive tasks. Ritalin made him depressed before and after. Focalin doesn't seem to create a negative sensation to external stimuli like ritalin did. He does what he wants, without feeling like a zombie. ISO, ritalin was just completely reformulated which happened to include making it more pure. SWIM didn't notice a static dosage change, 30mg of focalin SWIM would guess is like who knows, maybe 60, on a first dose. But the ridiculous tolerence of ritalin negates it all. SWIM can take 30 mg without raising a dosage, ritalin he had to up the dose constantly. Swim is only speaking from experience... his first doc gave him FocalinXR, he tried to take it regularly but it had to many ups and downs and didn't last nearly as long as advertised. So he had some fun with the beads. His next dr put him on Ritalin, and SWIM took his first dose, that lasted... an hour tops? then got depressed and had to take even more and couldn't focus on external stimuli he was just a zombie. SWIM took it back and even without insurance SWIM does not mind paying the ridiculous price of focalin XR. Swim does not know how fair it is to compare these two, but is just basing opinions on his experience. In the end swim enjoys his 4 or so hours of clarity. And pays the 140 instead of 40. SWIM may even be better off with AdderallXR, especially if it can be taken normally and last atleast 4-5 hours. without a harsh comedown. SWIM heard about adderall being better for adults.
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Old 28-08-2007, 12:18
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Re: Focalin vs. Ritalin (and more)

Swim loves the end result of the crushed beads, and actually enjoys the drip !. He also eats it, no parachuting needed.
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