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You're not special and Mr Rogers was an evil man (http://youtube.com/watch?v=n44WCUKIK2Y)
Rupert Murdoch and Fox News can burn in hell. I didn't think they could go any lower, but I was wrong.
Work hard your whole life for "the cause" and you will be special.
UNDER NO OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU AS A PERSON WORTH ANYTHING.
End Transmission.
beentheredonethatagain
14-07-2007, 02:32
you are missing the point. and a good point at that.
children are not taking responsibility for their future, they are being told that they are special for just taking up space, why do parents allow young johnnie to expect something for nothing, entitlements and handouts, this will not produce quality adults, only people dependant on government welfare.
what is so wrong with making your own way and not thinking the world owes you a thing. Liberal ideology is the cause for this touchy feely mentality, lets make the playing field level kinda of crap. Learn to not be so fragile .
Bajeda your going to hate the Fox News Channel now matter what they air, and I would venture to say that CBS News is your mainstay.
Nagognog2
14-07-2007, 02:44
It's called CHILDHOOD. Or would you prefer taking the culture back to the days of Dickens. No more Mr. Rogers. Send Johnney out to work as a boot-black, or a chimney-sweep?
beentheredonethatagain
14-07-2007, 02:50
no chimney sweeping is dirty work, they should stick to newspaper routes.
Nagognog2 do you subscribe to the non competion style sports for chittlens?
Nagognog2
14-07-2007, 03:02
Do you often jump to conclusions?
Orchid_Suspiria
14-07-2007, 03:03
Mhmm I'm sure most these conservatives subscribe to the "Spare the rod spoil the child"philosophy and "Children should be seen not heard."I mean to them women aren't complete human beings and apparently children aren't either.
He's dead. That is Fox News, they took someone's opinion and turned it into something more "important" than it is.
I like this one... http://www.koko.org/kidsclub/teachers/images/koko_and_mr_rogers.jpg
Nagognog2
14-07-2007, 03:17
FOXNews willl now come up with how Mr. Rogers was training a Gorrila Army.
Orchid_Suspiria
14-07-2007, 03:19
A gorilla army that trains Al Queda in the use of rocket propelled grenades knowing Foxn news.
Ronnie Colman is underneath the gorilla suit...
http://observantpeon.com/peon/images/coleman.jpg
I think some of the reporters were laughing at the story's existence.
Powder_Reality
14-07-2007, 03:30
I think there may be some truth to the study they did, but nowhere near to the extent that Fox News is stating.
Children need to feel special and feel loved, that's all there is to it. If you really want to screw up a child, then just ignore them and make them feel like a worthless piece of crap while they're growing up (which is essentially what this news report is saying we should do :rolleyes:).
However, if you continue to coddle the child all the way into their teenage years, of course they'll end up developing an egotistic personality. Children need to be loved and feel special, but as they grow up they need to learn about the real world and how to survive in it (ex. working hard, not expecting things to just be given to you, etc).
I guess what I'm essentially trying to say is that: no, Mr. Rogers did not "ruin" an entire generation by telling them that they were special. Period. I don't know how anybody could say otherwise and keep a straight face.
beentheredonethatagain
14-07-2007, 03:42
Do you often jump to conclusions?
I wasn't jumping to that conclusion. It was just a question, just trying to get a sense of your position in general .
you are missing the point. and a good point at that.
No I didn't. The author of the study that inspired this wretched little Fox News segment retracted his claims in regards to Mr. Rogers contributing to the supposedly narcissistic tendencies of this generation's youth.
There is no valid point in this at all. Little children need love and caring, and just as importantly, need to know that they are loved and cared for. Telling a little kid he is special isn't going to make him feel he deserves everything he could possibly desire. If anything it will raise his self-esteem and spur him on to be more confident and ambitious in attempting to achieve his desires.
I hope you don't have kids, because if you do they must be sad little things.
children are not taking responsibility for their future, they are being told that they are special for just taking up space, why do parents allow young johnnie to expect something for nothing, entitlements and handouts, this will not produce quality adults, only people dependant on government welfare.
And this is Mr. Roger's fault? Are you fucking kidding me? Mr. Rogers is single handedly responsible for the narcissism and self-centeredness of an entire generation? If anything we have less psychotic murderers on the street today because some years back a bunch of little kids around America who were neglected by their parents managed to get a little bit of the love and attention they so sorely needed for proper emotional development from television through Mr. Rogers.
I think if there is any impediment to helping kids develop into well functioning and humanistic adults today its the other 99% of shit they see on TV, not the one program that actually accomplished something good with its broadcast.
what is so wrong with making your own way and not thinking the world owes you a thing. Liberal ideology is the cause for this touchy feely mentality, lets make the playing field level kinda of crap. Learn to not be so fragile .
This isn't about being self-centered! This is about all the problems in the US being blamed on Mr. Rogers, who was practically a saint and who touched the lives of kids across the nation.
Bajeda your going to hate the Fox News Channel now matter what they air, and I would venture to say that CBS News is your mainstay.
If they actually aired news with the pretext of trying to be objective, or even made an attempt at proper journalism with solid ethical foundations, I'd be very impressed and would change my opinion a bit. So far they haven't budged.
I don't watch CBS news. Actually I don't watch the news on television at all, because its all mind-numbing, fear mongering, sound byte ridden pandering crap. The internet and magazines and newspapers (Financial Times, the Economist, Wall St. Journal) make much better resources, not to mention the advantages of getting your news from a wide variety of sources.
Judging from your comment about "liberal ideology" making people all touch-feeley, I'd say you need to get your head out of your ass and stop watching Fox News for a bit so you can say hello to the real world.
Nagognog2
14-07-2007, 04:10
I find discussing FOXNews to be about as intellectual as analyizing speeches by Adolf Hitler.
Wanted by position? Now you got it. Period.
beentheredonethatagain
14-07-2007, 09:52
I havent even turnned on a television or talk radio in over two years, but as you can tell I used to , yes Fox yes Limbaugh. For the last two years I ve been trying to get my head out of my ass, I would agree with that.
The real world is only what you make of your little pile of shit. today I focus on rearing my son and playing the blues period. pissing off Moderators just comes natural
p.s. I have an eight year old little boy , whom I raise alone . His mother died .. and yet he is a very smart and happy go lucky child, whos had to expeirence more pain than a child should have to. Mr. Rogers is a staple of his television viewing.
Yukio Mishima
14-07-2007, 12:09
What I don't understand is how a 'study' could isolate the Mr. Rogers TV show as a definitive factor in determining a social phenomenon. It's amazing, quite honestly. Did the researcher analyze the performance of children who watched the show vs. those who did not over the courses of their lives? Or, more likely, did he make a passing remark and have it turned into 'Study proves Mr. Rogers destroyed America!!!' by the idiotbox pundits?
Of course, Mr. Rogers was wrong. There are billions of people on this planet and most of them are interchangable. It is a miniscule percentage of earthlings who are even candidates for not being interchangable with their fellows ants. Did I say 'ants'? My sincerest apologies. I meant 'men.'
That said, it's a noble lie. Mr. Rogers was a decent man, IMO.
Nagognog2
14-07-2007, 18:00
NEXT UP: Thr live-TV flogging and hanging of Captain Kangaroo! Followed by the Drano-Enema of Mr. Greenjeans! Bring the kids!
Only on FOXNews. Narrated by Lush Rimjob.
beentheredonethatagain
14-07-2007, 23:19
Nagognog2 that's clever. your wit is sharp.
Not to change subjects, curious though When Limbaugh was in trouble for the oxycontins, what was your take on that situation, just wondering
Orchid_Suspiria
14-07-2007, 23:22
Nags take on was probably the same as most of our takes on it.What a hypocritical dickhead!I remember him saying something like all drug users should be put in jail for life or executed.These pricks would put people in jail forever for merely smoking cannabis.Sad that such ignorant,evil,and cold people can have positions in government here.These people are common murderers and thieves!More twisted than most serial killers.What nuclear war would do this planet and to people is more horrific than even any serial killer would think of wanting.And these people claim they are the "good guys".
My take is rush limbaugh is a gigantic fucking hypocrite, I'd like to hear you or anyone else say otherwise and why not.
beentheredonethatagain
15-07-2007, 00:58
Nags take on was probably the same as most of our takes on it.What a hypocritical dickhead!I remember him saying something like all drug users should be put in jail for life or executed.These pricks would put people in jail forever for merely smoking cannabis.Sad that such ignorant,evil,and cold people can have positions in government here.These people are common murderers and thieves!More twisted than most serial killers.What nuclear war would do this planet and to people is more horrific than even any serial killer would think of wanting.And these people claim they are the "good guys".
Oh orchid , You have me just a little more confused than usall, who are you refering to when you say ",cold people have positions in government"
Orchid_Suspiria
15-07-2007, 02:25
You know people that are capable of committing mass murder over oil.People that would consider us collateral damage in the event of a nuclear war.People that authorize dropping bombs on women and children.Those kind of people.
beentheredonethatagain
15-07-2007, 03:32
^^^^ oh, those guys ? the taliban, or Sodom's army
Haha, yea...if you don't work hard, 'ol Rupert might not make as much money.
geophagus
15-07-2007, 04:25
SWIM feels that it takes a "special type" of person to attack/single out Fred Rodgers on this issue.
SWIM suspects that these "special types" of people are likely the same people who felt that the world is/was better off without the likes of John Lennon, or Martin Luther King Jr, or JFK, or his brother Bobbie, etc, etc.
It seems to SWIM that people who preach a strong message of peace and the importance of the individual are most often demonized by the "special types" of people SWIM is referring to.
SWIM wonders if the people who insist that it's wrong to tell a youngster that they are a special individual, ever take any issue with the US ARMY's slogan of "An Army of One." SWIM tends to doubt that these are the types of people who would take any issue at all with the idea of telling a youngster that he/she is a special individual when trying to persuade a youngster to do some killing for them.
El Calico Loco
15-07-2007, 19:29
Wow. Just...wow. There are no words.
ECL
AntiAimer
16-07-2007, 19:48
Mr.rogers had fat tats all over his arms(why he always wore long sleeve shirts) also he was a major racist.
Was he eveil? Eh, we all are.
BTW, that video was retarded.
antiaimer please provide links to back up your statements.thanks
Nagognog2
16-07-2007, 20:39
BeenThere: "
Re: Mr. Rogers was an evil, evil man.
Nagognog2 that's clever. your wit is sharp.
Not to change subjects, curious though When Limbaugh was in trouble for the oxycontins, what was your take on that situation, just wondering"
My take? You're really beginning to undo the seams on my pants' legs you keep climbing. Here:
http://bootnewt.hostingzero.com/imanazi.mp3
Yeah there was a common conception that he had a pedophile incident but i dont want to look it up.
Powder_Reality
17-07-2007, 02:48
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
There's a lot of different urban legends about Mr. Rogers circulating on the internet, by word-of-mouth, etc.
No, he didn't have a bunch of tattoos on his arm; but even so, who the hell cares if he did? (because we all know that anybody who has a tattoo/piercing is evil, right? :rolleyes:). No, he wasn't a "major racist". No, he wasn't a pedophile. And a resounding "NO" to any other stupid urban myth you can dig up about Mr. Rogers in an attempt to tarnish the image of a children's show host.
People always try to find something evil or "unChristian" about people/groups that are trying to do something good in the world, which is why there are so many negative urban myths about these types of people/groups. Why people want to tarnish the image of good people for no reason is beyond me.
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
There's a lot of different urban legends about Mr. Rogers circulating on the internet, by word-of-mouth, etc.
No, he didn't have a bunch of tattoos on his arm; but even so, who the hell cares if he did? (because we all know that anybody who has a tattoo/piercing is evil, right? :rolleyes:). No, he wasn't a "major racist". No, he wasn't a pedophile. And a resounding "NO" to any other stupid urban myth you can dig up about Mr. Rogers in an attempt to tarnish the image of a children's show host.
People always try to find something evil or "unChristian" about people/groups that are trying to do something good in the world, which is why there are so many negative urban myths about these types of people/groups. Why people want to tarnish the image of good people for no reason is beyond me.
While in the case of Mr. Rogers you may be right, there are vaguely similar figures such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell that are genuinely evil pieces of shit masquerading as benevolent role models.
Powder_Reality
17-07-2007, 03:43
While in the case of Mr. Rogers you may be right, there are vaguely similar figures such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell that are genuinely evil pieces of shit masquerading as benevolent role models.
True, but Mr. Rogers was a kind-hearted and decent human being. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are/were a couple of mightier-than-thou assholes who believed it was their duty to pass judgement on others and tell us all how to live. I would never consider them to be "role models", and I certainly wouldn't consider them to be even vaguely similar to Mr Rogers.
I'm not going to get into my opinions on religion (out of respect for anyone on this forum who may be religious), but these guys (in my opinion) never did anything good for society at all. At least Mr. Rogers actaully promoted creativity and self-esteem for children.
no chimney sweeping is dirty work, they should stick to newspaper routes.
I am going to go out on a limb and assume you never had a paper route.
(That, or my Sarcas-o-Meter needs to be taken in to the shop.)
Geez, talk about attacking a man (of the cloth, no less) when he's no longer around to defend himself...
Fred Rogers clearly felt he was acting upon his religous calling by doing "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood," but he never beat anyone about the head with it. Growing up in Pittsburgh PA, I've run into quite a few persons who had dealings with him, and I've always heard what a wonderful, grounded person he was. As far as pedophile rumors, they're pretty much de rigeur for any adult in childrens' television, and--absent corroborating evidence--I'd pay it no heed.
Actually, he's been the answer to the "If you could have dinner with any one person in history..." question. I figure that he might be the most able to rectify my problems with a benevolent God vs. all of the shitty things that happen on earth.
And as for Mr. Limbaugh, I'm waiting for a formal retraction of his "just one less junkie" comments about Jerry Garcia's death before I grant him any measure of sympathy. It's become a cliche' how--whenever a moralizing hypocrite gets busted--they pull out the ol' "poor, pentinent sinner" schtik...case in point: Bill Bennet being outed as a degenerate gambler (hell yeah, SWIM gambles, but at least he has the skill and discipline to make blackjack and poker PAY for him...)
x cynic x
22-07-2007, 00:41
The reality of it all is that Mr. Roger was just trying to make a living by starring on some show. He was paid to read his script, it's not like he got to express his true personality in that situation. Barney isn't a jolly dinosaur, its a guy trying to make a living. Whoever wrote the scripts for that show could be the culprit here, but it's not like they were doing anything to harm our youth. Inspiring kids to have faith in themselves is considered evil?, that is just a statement of a news channel in desperate need for good material.
Nagognog2
22-07-2007, 00:57
You have to be 12 around here to get a paper-route (I had one). And if you're 12 and still watch Mr. Rogers, you're brain is made of gelatin anyways. You'd probably end up voting Republikan. Retarded is as retarded does.
Theme Song for Republican Mr Roger's fans:
"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
We hope the neighbor's have something good -
so we can steal it! Yes we can steal it!
We don't mean to cause any harm. We hope they don't have a burglar-alarm -
Or we blew it! Yes we blew it!
Stanza...."
beentheredonethatagain
22-07-2007, 05:33
I guess you and your monkey prefer socialism and having the people dependent upon hand outs and welfare stamps. No not me and my family and the Republican PARTY .
Nagognog2
23-07-2007, 21:36
So what drugs does your Republican monkey chooses to indulge in?
beentheredonethatagain
24-07-2007, 01:36
swim enjoys a nice kind bud, a nice cold bud, and sometimes if the wind blows his way a game of pool , like nine ball or eight ball.
The reality of it all is that Mr. Roger was just trying to make a living by starring on some show. He was paid to read his script, it's not like he got to express his true personality in that situation.
You mean you are assuming that was the reality of it all. He actually wrote, and rewrote, and meticulously rewrote again, each script for each show he did. He also wrote all the songs for it.
There were a few really great articles about him by people who knew him (including a pretty good one in Esquire) but they don't seem to be on the net anymore. Try the below links for an idea of who he was, though its not quite as good as what I was looking for.
Fred Rogers' testimony before the US Senate (http://youtube.com/watch?v=a41lJIhW7fA)
http://www.salon.com/people/bc/1999/08/10/rogers/
Listen to the Fred Rogers interview with Don Swaim, 1987 (http://wiredforbooks.org/swaim/FredRogers.ram)
Biography of Fred Rogers at the "Rotten" Library (http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/misc/fred-rogers/) (I know its an odd site to have it, but its actually not bad)
beentheredonethatagain
24-07-2007, 02:21
I am not the ideologue that it seems that I am , again I am here to share commonality not harping on our differences. Just read my post and see that I am not hung up on politics, it is not why I am here.
beentheredonethatagain
24-07-2007, 08:28
i must preface all the fun by stating me and son watch senior rogers like daily, i also grew up with mr green jeans and the lot inld mr rogers
this is real dumb and geee its the fire power okay i last did p.r. work 12 years ago no ties
Nagognog2
24-07-2007, 14:27
You could form some varient of the Westboro Baptist Church (http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html) and start a crusade against kids who grew up watching Mr. Rodgers. Lots of hellfire and brimstone. That sort of thing. Mental hospitals make fertile ground for converts. Then start passing the hat and make your fortune.
Though it would take up most of your time, and we'd miss you, we'd understand.
sorry for derailing the thread!!
nag you know that guy only started that church because hes a closet homo...
NORWAY, Maine -- A religious group known for its protests against gays and abortion is coming to Maine to protest a soldier's funeral next weekend.Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, of Topeka, Kan., are planning to protest at Sgt. Corey Dan's funeral.Dan, a member of the 101st Airborne Division from Norway, was killed in Iraq on March 13 when his Humvee was attacked with a roadside bomb and small arms fire.
The church members have been protesting service members' funerals across the county carrying signs that say "Thank God For Dead Soldiers." The church said soldiers are being struck down by God for defending a nation that tolerates homosexuality.
anyone that would like to speak to these guys they like to change there numbers alot so im not sure how current this list is:
Fred W. and Margie M. Phelps, Sr.
Westboro Baptist Church
3701 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
phone: 785-273-0325 and 785-273-0338
fax: 785-273-9228
Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger
James Hockenbarger/Jennifer Hockenbarger
1929 S.W. Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: (913) 233-1848
K-K-Karl’s work: 785-296-3959
Fred W. Phelps. Jr. and Betty Phelps
3600 S. W. Holly Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-4135
Jr.’s work: 785-296-3195
Margie J. Phelps
3734 S.W. 12th
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-7380
work: 785-296-3317
Ben Phelps
3632 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-233-4162
Rebekah Phelps-Davis and Chris Davis-Phelps
1216 S.W. Cambridge
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-7741
Shirley Phelps-Roper and Brent Roper-Phelps
Sam Phelps-Roper
3640 S.W. Churchilll
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-1445/273-0277/272-1619
Shirley’s work: 785-233-4162
Brent’s work (Foot Locker) 785-273-0068
Jonathan and Paulette Phelps
840 S.W. Watson
Topeka, Kansas 66606
Jonathan’s work: 785-233-4162
Elizabeth Phelps
2001 S.W. 2nd Street
Topeka, Kansas 66606
home: 785-234-9694
work: 785-233-0822
Abigail Phelps
3636 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
785-273-7262
work: 785-296-7709
Charles W. and Mary Hockenbarger
711 N.W. Page
Topeka, Kansas 66617
home: 785- 246-1567
Rachel Phelps Hockenbarger and Charles F. Hockenbarger
1284 S.W. Hillsdale
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-271-1619
Tim and LeAnn Phelps
3743 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-4780
Tim’s work: 785-291-5100
Leann’s work: phone: 785-233-4162
quote from another forum:
they came up to maine to protest a soilders funerial but a bunch of bikers thretened to kick there asses so they didnt go it was fuckin hilarious
Nagognog2
24-07-2007, 22:33
Yep. 95% relatives. He's beats them into submission. Read an interview with one kid who escaped. The guy's certified squirrel-bait.
Heretic.Ape.
24-07-2007, 22:52
Those kooks came around here a while back to protest someones funeral. Wish I had one of those "gay bombs" mentioned in another thread...
El Calico Loco
25-07-2007, 02:39
I bet Mr. Rogers would kick his ass.
ECL
A religious group known for its protests against gays and abortion is coming to Maine to protest a soldier's funeral next weekend.Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, of Topeka, Kan., are planning to protest at Sgt. Corey Dan's funeral.Dan, a member of the 101st Airborne Division from Norway, was killed in Iraq on March 13 when his Humvee was attacked with a roadside bomb and small arms fire.
The church members have been protesting service members' funerals across the county carrying signs that say "Thank God For Dead Soldiers." The church said soldiers are being struck down by God for defending a nation that tolerates homosexuality.
you know, i am as anti-war and anti-bush as the next guy, but anyone who protests a soldiers funeral should be drug out into the street and shot...seriously.
El Calico Loco
27-07-2007, 01:49
you know, i am as anti-war and anti-bush as the next guy, but anyone who protests a soldiers funeral should be drug out into the street and shot...seriously.
I think that's extreme. I'd just pull their pants down and spank them in front of everyone.
Oops, I mean SWIM would pull their pants down, etc.
The sad thing is that they're not even protesting the actions of the soldiers themselves, or even the war. They're protesting the government's policy of not locking homosexuals up in cages.
And they commit the ultimate philosophical sin - blaming the individual member of a set for the actions of other members of the set. It's this error of logic that makes fanaticism - and -isms in general - possible.
ECL
I think that's extreme.
it is...but if it was my wife's funeral they were protesting, i think extreme would be an understatement for what my reaction would be....
Nagognog2
27-07-2007, 08:26
Then you shoot 'em.
I'd strip 'em naked and chain strap-on dildo's up their siantly gloryholes and whip 'em down the street. Praise the Lord!
Praise the Lord!
And pass the ammunition
i swear this is a 100% undocterd photo,and you guys said he wasent evil...
http://www.satanspace.com/graphics/evil/22/mr-rogers-freddy-kruger-my-neighbor.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNhdGFuc3BhY2UuY29tLw==)
Nagognog2
02-08-2007, 20:12
And pass the ammunition
I prefer Firesign Theatre's rendition: "Pass the Lord and Praise the Ammunition."
Felonious Skunk
02-08-2007, 21:33
I fucking knew it! Fred Rogers was a Kloset Kreiger...
And all this time I could have been letting my kid watch 'im...
And all this time I could have been letting my kid watch 'im...
Has your child busted in your dreams and ripped you to shreds yet?