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austinbartender
04-10-2004, 08:57
Here's my story, it's kind of a long one-


I'm a 20 year oldUT student living in Austin, Texas. I've been a habitual pot smoker for about six years, and in that time I've tried every drug I can think of excluding heroin, crack, pcp, and dmt. Aside from my marijuana use I've never really used any drug habitually, until recently that is. I had my first profound experience with cocaine last new years. I was at a party, and I happend to walk in to a room in which a friend of mine was cutting up some lines. He offered me a line, and I accepted. A few weeks later, I asked a co-worker of mine that I knew used the stuff if he could get me any. Within an hour he took my $20 and handed me a tiny amount. I remeber getting home from work that day and staring at that bag for at least 15 minutes, debating whether or not to just flush it. I gave in to my poorer judgement, and here I am close to a year later and a habitual user of the stuff. I've since become very good friends with the guy who gave me the stuff on new years, and he hooks me up with killer stuff for a fraction of what I payed at work. However, the stuff has affected my studies, depleted my savings,I use it at work, and worst of all I keep it a secret from almost all of my friends; even my roomates don't know (or at least aren't certain) that I use it. I know I have a problem and I genuinely want to quit, but as soon as I've been out of coke for a while I seem to forget all that until I have more, and then I feel so ashamed and guilty.





I need advice.

VJ87
05-10-2004, 04:22
Get a pack of budwieser and an some mary jane, lots of it. I hear if you smoke and drink instead of doing coke it helps u kick it. Just tell yourself u dont need it..

Guest
05-10-2004, 11:29
No mate i have been there .Only way is not go near it .If y freinds taking tell them not to do it in front .Or y going t be a poor man .The best thing is take 3 weeks of and take valium will help ,you need time out.

whitetrain
14-11-2004, 21:52
i agree, u cant go near it or you'll get right back on the train. i've been doin this shit since i was 15 and i know i won't ever stop, u need to do what u can to stop it now if its affecting u that much.

P!MPJU!C3
15-11-2004, 19:13
U need 2 read other posts by coke users. In my time at drugsforum ive read some great stuff on kicking coke. One thing I remember is someone writing he or she cleaned up everything, went on a trip 2 another place where he or she didnt know anyone. This helped her/him kick. I think she/he kicked 4 a while, i am not certain of the ending of the tale.

Good luck,

P!MPJU!C3

ihateme
17-11-2004, 02:08
Good Luck.. it is hard, but it is possible... Just stay away from all triggers.. that was the only thing that i could do to stay clean.. The guy that i used to buy from i was falling for, but i complety cut him out my life when i decided to get clean, i really dohope you best of luck and keep ur head up.. and remember it will be ok..

Koshh
18-11-2004, 04:27
a lot of people have a problem with giving up one habit and taking up another one in its place.
i really don't understand why.

am i allowed to suggest taking other drugs instead?

this is my second time stopping coke right now btw. cold turkey this time. the first time i did what P!MPJU!C3 suggested and just left the country without a word to anyone. i guess that worked for a little... but...
you know when you fall in love, you cant get the girl out of your head? like an incurable permanent disease of the mind. coke is that way for me.
i can't not talk about it. i can't go a whole day without mentioning coke. coke applies to everything somehow.
infact, i don't even remember why i decided to stop. i just know that it's working out just fine this time.

... course... i started smoking again...
smoking is harder to kick than blow, i think hehe.

lol, before i write another 12 page epic post... i think i'll just hit reply right now :) damned ritalin gives me a bad case of the chat.

djryand
19-11-2004, 00:43
What's up fellow redneck/Texan hahahahaha. There are only a few things you can try.....

1. Use your will power and try your ass off to just stick to alcohol and pot. Maybe not even alcohol, because any coker knows that can possibly bring the coke fiend out in you.

2. 12 steps baby!!!! You know what I'm talking about. I had to go through that shit due to fucking up on probation. Had to go to an in-house rehab for 3 months to save my sweet little asses virginity. The 12 steps works for some, but not all. You have to really want to quit. If not, it can still help you think about your addiction and yourself. It really helped me see what I was doing, and cut down. It can't hurt man. If you are serious, go to a meeting or two and just try it. What's it gonna hurt?

3. Ibogaine. Of course it's illegal here because it would be cheap & effective in drug abstinence and they don't want that!!!! You would have to go to Canada or Europe, but I hear the success rate is pretty good; at least for quite some time.

I would say good luck, but it is all about what you really want. If it is fucking up your life and you want something better, you have to drastically change your life. It's the hardest thing you will ever do, but it's worth it. Even if you just try, you can say you tried.

You will be in my prayers.

P.S. Under the table, I would possibly recommend any good psychedellic for your troubles. They are very good at making you look inside yourself and help you get to the root of your troubles.

betty_bupe
19-11-2004, 18:10
Dear Austinbartender,



Try Ibogaine...Take a little trip to Mexico, and relax in a cheap
cabana on the beach. I got off opiates- which, by the way, are
harder to kick than coke- by using Ibogaine. It basically resets
your brain to a pre-addiction mode. You should feel NO
withdrawal/crash, and you will be fine in a couple of days.



If you have any ?s, pm me....



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djryand
19-11-2004, 21:11
Hey Betty.

Is it easy to find/get in Mexico?

betty_bupe
19-11-2004, 21:21
djryand,



Ibogaine is really hard to find. It's virtually nonexistent on
the street. You would have to order it online, and have it mailed
somewhere other than the U.S., as it's illegal. There is a
company in Canada you can order from, but I don't want to put their
name on this list. PM me, and I'll give you details.



Now, if you have $2000-4000 to spend, you can get Ibogaine treatment at
a medical facility in Rosarito, Mexico. There is also treatment
available in Canada and the Netherlands. Problem is, most people
don't have this kind of cash on hand. I'm sure if you had a P.O.
box in Mexico, you could have it mailed there. It's really
unfortunate your government is imposing such draconian anti-drug laws
regarding Ibogaine- it's a Schedule 1 drug, same class as heroin!!!!



If you want any more info, PM me, and I'll help ya out...



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CABS205
20-11-2004, 22:29
I know how you feel. My pretty much broke. My love of my life is gone. I can't focus in school. I hate going to work (unless I'm picking up some), and all I want to do is get high. Or atleast, that's how I felt before I woke up from this nightmare. I got so messed up one night and a so called friend took advantage of me. All I remember was feeling so dirty and that because I was so messed up, I didn't have good judgement.


First, I locked my stash and locked my keys in my car. So I haven't done it in a few days, which is good for me.


Second, I talked to my doctor about it. So they're helping me with that.


Third, this my sound silly. Go to the library and read ALL about cocaine. I've read so many horrible stories that scared the living shit out of me. So that made me think.


Don't be afraid to ask for help from any of your friends and family. Remember, you have to trust them.


Note: I asked my girlfriend at the time for some help and she was so disgusted with me, she dumped me. So be careful, who you tell.


GOOD LUCK!

djryand
22-11-2004, 21:56
Betty. Not really interested in getting it, but thanks. Was just curious as to how easy it is to get in countries where it is not scheduled, and how much it costs. I have heard great things about its anti-addictive properties. Also heard you trip balls for like 24 hrs.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif

betty_bupe
25-11-2004, 20:56
. Also heard you trip balls for like 24 hrs.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif



I'd say 12-16 hours is more likely. It's not an easy trip- most
people get major ataxia and nausea. I've heard it likened to
ayahuasca. Plus, your sleeping patterns will be disturbed for
days.



It's a cool psychedelic drug- 3D visuals, no lie! Escher-type
staircases, Borg cubes, many faces(most of which you will NOT
recognize), crazy astral travel.



Not a recreational drug....



Betty

Nicaine
24-12-2004, 04:20
U need 2 read other posts by coke users. In my time at drugsforum ive read some great stuff on kicking coke. One thing I remember is someone writing he or she cleaned up everything, went on a trip 2 another place where he or she didnt know anyone. This helped her/him kick. I think she/he kicked 4 a while, i am not certain of the ending of the tale.
That was me, and the end of the tale is I'm still off the snow (going on 4 months). But I'm lucky enough to not know anyone right now who uses or sells it... don't know what would happen if that changes.

I'm trying to get more involved in "real life" and get some good shit going in my life that has nothing to do with drugs. I think that's the best long term way to stay off.

... course... i started smoking again...
smoking is harder to kick than blow, i think hehe.
Yep I agree... I've kicked a lot of substances, but never could kick nicotine. IMHO it's the most addictive substance in existence.Edited by: Nicaine

GAMBiTAzazel
24-12-2004, 07:01
ketamine has proven to help alcoholics quit, drinking alot helped me, i binged for about a month or two to quit mine, but i feel the best thing is to understand your addiction, just let the withdrawl take its course...and try to get laid!http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

paulywould
20-01-2005, 06:09
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AZMEO
21-01-2005, 20:29
Had the same problem. There is one simple answer. Fill your time with meaningfull things and people. While the answer is easy, doing it is another thing. Also you will have to lose your friends who use otherwise the constant exposure will bring you right back in. I would say good luck but luck has nothing to do with it. It is all a matter of the strength of your character.

AZMEO
21-01-2005, 20:31
I might also suggest doing some research on ayahuasca and addiction it.


take care

aMorphius
23-01-2005, 09:09
It's difficult for me to understand all of this advice about taking one drug
to get off of another! If you can get to a Narc Anon ( like AA) meeting,
there will be people there who are as interested in staying off of drugs as
you are. Stick with this croud for a while and hopefully they will replace
your former druggie friends. I know this sounds like preaching, but it has
worked for many.

sunyata
23-01-2005, 14:45
Substances like Ayahuascha and Ibogaine are not drugs the same way as coke and smack is, they do not necessarily produce euphoria, but rather puts you in a very deep trance state, just like hypnosis. Just taking the drug will in itself not be enough to break a habit, you need a guide(Therapist, sjaman,) to help you "reprogram" your mind, there are several techniques for doing this and not all of them include psychedelic drugs, like hypnosis. For those of you who are interested in how such experences might affect behavioural patterns and perspective I'd recomend Abraham Maslows "Religion, values and peak-experiences". It's a heavy book, but very good and can be downloaded somewhere on the web, but I can't remember where. Different techniques will work for different people, I don't think we'll ever find a common cure for addiction.

jatzstoned
24-01-2005, 03:07
if you absolutely cant help yourself, tear up any money u would use to buy the coke , its a waste, but u gotta do wutever it takes

newman
24-01-2005, 22:01
Hello all, here is my 2 cents AND VERY GOOD ADVICE.


Having been there myself. And quit a few times, last time was for good though.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


Anyway what will help is an ethnogenic plant generally called Kratom, That has the abbility to relax the body Even in the most discomforting times. Also you might try to get some clonazepam to help with the stress. And some clonide to help with the sweats of widthdrawl.


Also there is some evidence out their that Zyban or wellbutrin (same thing) will help with cocaine widthdrawl as it does with smoking.


f you have any questions about any of these substances please feel free to PM me. I'd like to help if I can.

paulywould
25-01-2005, 04:31
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Try writing down all the bad shit that is making you want to quit in the first place (my sponsor had me do this) Than when you feel like doing a line or shooting, read the paper over and over. At least it might knock some sense into you. Also writing it down and reading it is far more effective than just "knowing bad shit happens sometimes" or "it coats to much money" I tried that, and thought about it all the way to my dealers house. It's better if it's written.


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uqlfy
28-03-2005, 22:29
Really feel for you man. Used to be pretty heavy on it myself.
Only thing I can say that helped me get clean was I stopped chilling
with the people who I used with. Now I was able to do that cause my
former fiance was screwing my "friend" for free shit and I found out.
Its been almost 3 years now and I hardly ever even think about it. Get
out meet some new friends. Join a book club anything to keep busy. Its
not impossible to stop and it does get easier. Good luck.

butter
29-03-2005, 01:44
Get a pack of budwieser and an some mary jane, lots of it. I hear if you smoke and drink instead of doing coke it helps u kick it. Just tell yourself u dont need it..


He's right grab some beers chillout with your buddies and smoke a few joints. Soon you will replace it.

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butter
29-03-2005, 01:45
Really feel for you man. Used to be pretty heavy on it myself.
Only thing I can say that helped me get clean was I stopped chilling
with the people who I used with.



Not always will this work. Many times you don't need anyone there to do it. If it is accessbile and your are mad addicted. It is easy to say just this once 1000 times.

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uqlfy
29-03-2005, 05:13
Yeah but if you tell off your dealer it makes it harder to get. Unless its everywhere. Not so so easy to get where im from

2flydragons
29-03-2005, 14:27
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You're not too far gone... At least you have the presence of mind to know that you need help.


You must study the drug that has you in its grip....Study the types of addiction and the many ways that you can fall into thier trap.


The power to change youre life is well within youre grasp.. do not believe that OTHER PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO HELP! The power is youres only


Drug use is indeed experimentation and if you do not have a solid knowledge base and a complete understanding of the possible downfalls, youre experiment most likely end in failure and even possibly worse the end of youre life {yes there are worse things than dying}


So stay away from this experiment and study the efects from a distance the drug of youre choice has been the down fall of a many well meanig people....And if youre not carefull you will join the poster child of ignorancethat signifies youre plight......


Hang tough and if you need anymore detailed help, Please reply





All My best wishes, Steve

paulywould
31-03-2005, 07:28
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anabolictrio
31-03-2005, 10:12
try with mdma... it worked very well with me... i was a strong freebase smoker.

billbong
31-03-2005, 19:23
My advice is try and avoid bozze for a while, smoke shit loads of skunk, and jus try n b strong. Maybe watch scarface

Guest
01-04-2005, 15:07
One thing that helps me not do coke, is thinking of the comedown. Of course I don't really like coke anyway, but think of all the bad things about coke.

Guest
01-04-2005, 16:02
I know I have a problem and I genuinely
want to quit, but as soon as I've been out of coke for a while I seem
to forget all that until I have more, and then I feel so ashamed and
guilty.












Austin that is EXACTLY how i am with coke.

I wanna stop sooo much, but as soon as i havent had any for a day or
so, i forget all about WHY i wanted to quit and just go out and get
some.

I have just joined this forum as have been sitting up all of last night
MASHED on coke. Its pretty sad. I spent whole night in alone just
playing on laptop. Still havent slept, head is pounding, and feel like
complete shit!

WHY do i do this??

I feel completely trapped.

I have NO mates who dont use coke so cant really escape it
there and i am £20,000 in debt so cant exactly afford to escape
to another country.

im 27 F and back living with my parents (such joy)

I cant hold any job down for more than a couple of months when i use coke and i dont feel i control my life in ANY way.




and i dont know why im posting this dreary long message, but sorry guys, i kinda needed to get it off my chest x

betsym
07-04-2005, 05:37
Besides staying away from people who use coke and have access to it, another thing to try is to build up the neurotransmitters that were wrecked by swiy's use. Depression is a common side affect of drug use and the depression can be so bad that swiy will do anything to stop it, including use again. Supplements such as L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola Rosea, L-glutamine, SAM-e, Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna),and 5htp, to name a few, help rebuild the neurotransmitters and combat depression. Swim has friends with personal knowledge of shooting-up coke (or rather being shot up by someone else) and the depression afterwards was awful. Whenever swim's friends would try to abstain, they could manage maybe two weeks at the most and then couldn't stand it anymore. Swim began researching, on the net, books, etc... and came up with a supplement program that would work after reading the book "Natural Highs" by Hyla Cass, M.D.Almost 5 months later and swim's friends are still free and clean. The brain is permanently affected by chronic, long-termuse of drugs and once the chemicals are depleted, they have to be restored or swiy will never feel normal again. Even short-term use has some adverse affects on how swiy feels afterwards. The price is just not worth a life of depression, always looking for the next high.

oldskoolraver
09-04-2005, 08:37
Hey keep your head up!

Anyone can kick anything, Believe in yourself! drop any
friends that are a bad influance, Its hard parting ways with old
friends but when you start seeing friends die like I have you sober up
quick! Fill up your free time with things you like to do, All us
addicts stop our hobbies deep into addiction. Idle hands are the devils
tools! That is when you get cravings when you are boared!

@ my old methadone clinic I saw an article on a anti seziure drug
that was succesfully treating cocain addiction, I dont recall the name
though.



Good luck friends,

Don't TRY DO IT!

Chris

Supplier
11-04-2005, 08:51
Sounds like u need a good dealer come live in uk and im sure i could help u out got lots a handy contacts

windysan
12-04-2005, 01:18
Narcanon is Scientology. Stay FAR away. AA and NA should help if you put forth the effort.

raven3davis
13-04-2005, 03:59
Tell your dealer that you dont want coke any more and to not sell it to
you. If he really cares he won't sell the shit to you
anymore. Also you could try to talk to one of your friends, or
even your roomates. Maybe you could hang out with your non using
friends more often to get your mind off of cocaine. Xanax might
help too. Best wishes - good luck.

uqlfy
18-04-2005, 19:17
I was thinking that maybe wellbutrin could held you kick habit, also
librium these are both prescription meds talk to a doctor about getting
on one of these. And if you dont want to discuss cocaine use just say
you want to quit smoking and a friend told you about wellbutrin.

egoDEATH
18-04-2005, 22:15
The easiest method for solving (or atleast controlling) any kind of addiction is to workout on a regular basis (atleast five days a week). A habitual workout regimine has been clinically proven as a cure for depression. This is not the magic key everyone's looking for, but it helps.

Nicaine
13-05-2005, 19:53
Also there is some evidence out their that Zyban or wellbutrin (same thing) will help with cocaine widthdrawl as it does with smoking.

Good advice... in my experience, not only does it help but it partially kills the coke high, so you feel mostly wired and paranoia but little euphoria.

And once it's in your system, it stays for up to a week, so it's not like you can quit for 24 hrs. do some cola and expect to feel the high normally.Edited by: Nicaine

Kittyofftitty
30-05-2005, 21:48
Well what worked for me is to obviously get rid of any coek you have
then when you are starting to get a really bad craving drink some
alcohol, it made the craving go away for me but I guess it doesn't
work for some people.

Nicaine
31-05-2005, 00:02
Cola is "psychologically" addictive. You can get a period of anhedonia (inability to feel pleasure) after quitting, the best help for that is an antidepressant (SWIM recommends Wellbutrin). Other than that, the way to do it is to sever all your connections and put it completely out of your mind. If possible, take a nice long vacation somewhere it isn't around. When you come back, pretend you never heard of the stuff.

Aside from some brain chemical depletion, it's a very mental dependency. Very weak even compared to nicotine, in my opinion. You really just have to decide you're going to stop, and stop. Then make sure you get on with your life in ways that are rewarding.Edited by: Nicaine

tayo
23-05-2007, 03:40
SWIM is sure that enough MJ can kick any habit, but... the best way is to set a date about a month in advance and keep reminding yourself that it is the date you are going to quit for good. Tell everyone else that is the date you are going to quit for good. And hold yourself to it, you'll likely binge to the extreme the night before but make sure the supply runs out that night. The day after just drink lots of water, eat nutritiously, go for a long walk, hit the weights a little if you work out, and just keep yourself distracted and yeah away from it... read up on all the bad effects that cocaine use can have, make it your main focus, drill the bad things about it into your brain until you are preaching to others not to use it. Also Rhodiola Rosea could be used effectively at 6x the reccommended dose the supplement requires, it may cost money but not more than a cocaine habit. Rhodiola kicks ass. And SWIY should kick SWIY's ass into self-control. Maybe even have a psilocybin experience to reflect on SWIY's habit. Mind over body.

behemuthzero
23-05-2007, 04:10
Last year through this past April i had a big prob with coke..the best way i found to get away is to grab some whiskey...maybe some pot...and go from there...you have to have the right mindset...its all about getting past that initial fiening phase..once you pass that you are on your way...just have to stay clear for a week or so..then you will look back and laugh about it all...stay away from ppl who use it..and don't keep money on you if you don't need to...makes for impulse buying if you know what i mean...and most importantly..stay busy don't let your mind wonder...out of site out of mind...fill your time up with something else you find meaningful..family friends...school if you can...and honestly when i fiened real hard i always found sex was a good distraction...wasn't really all that great when compared to coke free sex but keeps you busy...and remember noone is beyond redemption...you can do it bro..

cyndi
22-06-2007, 23:54
It sounds to me your friend isn't a true friend since you have the desire to quit and he or she keeps you using. Swim can relate bigtime. Swim has nonfriends like that who kept swim in a mess. The problem is that when the cravings hit, anyone tends to forget the icks of it and remembers the initial pleasure. That is what keeps swiy going back or wanting. Thank goodness swim was out of school before getting into drugs or she wouldn't have a good job as she couldn't handle it and think straight to function on schoolwork. Even after years of being sober sometimes the cravings will hit, you just have to know what triggers it and know it for what it is. Using one obsession for another really isn't healthy. It certainly isn't impossible to quit as swim knows a lot of people that kicked coke. Swiy needs to stay away from users and possibly locations or he will be back on it. It does as the other poster said get easier the more clean time you have, but it is tough initially. Good luck to you:)