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Fantasian
15-12-2006, 23:12
Which drug gives the worst comedown/hangover for you?
Swim finds the worst comedown is with LSA, the nuasea is really bad and Swim also gets a fevor.
iFeaRNLoathiNg
16-12-2006, 00:24
mdma was the worst for swim, felt like it used up all the happy juice in the brain.
Fantasian
16-12-2006, 00:31
It's methylone for SWIF, someone feels like the dopamine and serotonin is gone, he can come with one or the other! Same as doing cocanie and mdma at the same time. Comedowns are killers!
old hippie 56
16-12-2006, 02:26
It is a close race with booze or speed. Both are killers, one reason swim don't do much of either anymore.
Cocaine can give nasty ones if one did alot, or especially if one did alot and stayed up all night.
Alcohol has given swim the worst hangovers ever, period. He has done some stupid things in his days, like drinking a liter bottle of Absolut at around 2500 meters altitude or so in less than 30 minutes, which led to a several day migraine hangover.
Worse yet than the dread migraine hangover from alcohol is the "Yo-Stomach's-Fucked!" hangover. Swim rarely ever gets this (he has a pretty good tolerance / ability to handle alcohol), but when he does.... Puking 4-8 times the day after drinking isn't fun. Swim remembers after New Years a few years ago he woke up feeling like crap, had a bowl of cereal, and saw the cereal projectile vomiting itself a good meter or two when he ran into the toilet after it felt like someone had smacked his stomach with a baseball bat! He then got to enjoy a nice meal with family friends. Well minus the meal, since swim ate a pea or two and a miniscule slice of ham and had to go puke again so he just ended up poking at his food wishing he was dead for a while. Not fun.
Plus with alcohol you get the added pleasure sometimes of not only feeling really shitty from being hungover, you can also get blackout and do very stupid things sometimes, so you get to wake up wanting to die AND get to play detective interrogating your friends to see just how you got kicked out of that one club...
Only other one on the list swim chose was amphetamines. He is currently pushing past 40 something hours with no sleep, no wait... yeah, something like that. It seems to be worse when he has to study long periods of time (see thread "Longest Study Session on Adderall) than when he just has to stay up for a while. Either way, stomach feels like crap, swim has aches sometimes, his brain is just completely zombified, and lots of other goodies. Hangover isn't really much because you sleep through it lol, or at least swim wakes up feeling fine, though the come down can be really bad, especially once you get to the hallucinations pont.
TitusCrow
16-12-2006, 04:47
SWITC is quite suprised nobody has mentioned heroin's comedown.
When SWITC experimented with heroin and coke for some time, he often mixed the two. This mix produced the worst crashes of his life. As his habit went on with these drugs, the crashes just got worse and worse until one day when SWITC discovered his dealer was no longer accessible.
Thankfully, SWITC no longer has to worry about these hellish crashes because he now only uses LSD, Marijuana and RC's.
Sky Walker
17-12-2006, 13:04
Alcohol, without a doubt can produce the worst comedowns I've ever experienced, very very close to a bad case of food poisoning, horrible drug.
Hangover? Well there's no doubt that (in the past) SWIJ has felt horrible after taking Ecstacy. Jittery stomach, low mood, anxious, nauseous, all of that. However she NEVER feels like that now. This is why she thinks it happened:
In the past SWIJ did not always test her drugs. She ALWAYS does now. She wonders how many of those "Ecstacy" hangovers were nothing of the sort and were actually speed related?
Secondly, SWIJ used to drink a great deal more than she does now, both during the roll and the next day: A lot of the way she was feeling was probably alcohol hangover more than anything else. In a similar vein, she used to stay up all night, not sleep, and not eat anything for more than 24 hours: Which can't have helped!
Another factor is probably that she used to take SILLY quantities of drugs. These days she never takes more than 100-150mg, followed 3-4 hours later by 75-100mg (still on the high side, she knows, but it works for her). She also manages the transitions better: Walks home from the club, puts on some less hectic music, something soothing on the TV (nature documentary with sound turned off), and so gradually winds down rather than crashing.
She is convinced that the fact that she hasn't taken benzodiazepines for years is also a contributory factor: SWIJ's weekends always used to end with large quantities of Valium, which meant there was added benzo hangover in the mix.
She also uses MDMA much less frequently than previously: 3 times only this year.
Sometimes she feels a little low on Tuesday/Wednesday, after a hectic weekend but it's in a reflective, rather melancholy way, rather than a miserable/depressed way.
By far the worst hangover is alcohol. She felt awful the first time she took cocaine, but that was probably more to do with with the 3 bottles of champagne she drank over the course of that evening.
LSD doesn't give her any kind of hangover, other than a peaceful, contented fuzzy glow, during which, for about 24-48 hours creativity is enhanced and she feels much more in tune with the world around her.
The worst comedown for swim is a tie between coke and mdma. coke just pisses swim off and mdma makes swim sad coming down.. but after taking either chem, he can never sleep
Riconoen {UGC}
19-12-2006, 10:08
swim cant believe noones mentioned DXM. the mental near retardation, everything tasting like canned ass, and feeling detached from reality is the worst hangover swim has ever had.
psycho joe
19-12-2006, 10:10
RITALIN!!!
holy fuck... swim hasnt touched it for sometime but when swim did use it, took it IV, usually 120mg's blast, prescribed as a child... comedowns make swim wanna put a fuckin bullet in head, waaaaaaay worse than any amphetamine in swims honest opinion
drugsrbad
19-12-2006, 10:33
Swim has to say his worst comedown was when he finally stopped MDMA. He did it for a few months a couple times a week. He relaized he had a problem and stopped doing it. For a long time he had no feelings of happiness. Nothing seemed fun for him at alll. Even sex was a bore to him. I think this has ruined swim to this day. Cocaine is also bad especially after swim split 22 grams with 3 other people and did it over the course of 30 hours or so.
Swim has to agree yet again with his decision to select coke as one of the options in the poll.....
Even when he doesn't do alot so he doesn't have a really bad come down, if he is trying to go to sleep within a few hours of doing it and doesn't take something else to make it a speedball he will be lying in bed with his mind at the point of breakdown trying to coax himself into sleep. Its one of the most annoying feelings ever, especially when he has to get up early the next day. I think swim lost at least three hours of sleep last night from the point he got in bed alone because of coke comedown!
FrankenChrist
19-12-2006, 18:46
Swim says MDMA
and 2C's if they just will not let you go to sleep.
drugsrbad
19-12-2006, 19:21
Swim has to agree yet again with his decision to select coke as one of the options in the poll.....
Even when he doesn't do alot so he doesn't have a really bad come down, if he is trying to go to sleep within a few hours of doing it and doesn't take something else to make it a speedball he will be lying in bed with his mind at the point of breakdown trying to coax himself into sleep. Its one of the most annoying feelings ever, especially when he has to get up early the next day. I think swim lost at least three hours of sleep last night from the point he got in bed alone because of coke comedown!
Swim thinks the worst part is when you are laying in bed and have to do something in the morning and you start to here the birds the chirp. god damn birds
Mona Lisa
19-12-2006, 19:59
booze is the worst for swim if too much is drunk, and especially mixed.
pankreeas
20-12-2006, 22:20
This may be an odd choice but swim is gonna have to go with the belladonna alkaloid (datura) for worst comedown. It's comedown is a mix of physical symptoms that make one wanna die, plus extreme mental anguish but even furthermore, swim told me because for the first day or so you are so out to lunch that you cannot possibly translate to paper or store to memory anything that is going on. Then just as it's easing off little bit and you can finally start to relay these profound thoughts and happenings, it is rather impossible due to the double vision and extreme visual distortions that follow for the next 2-3 days. And along with the dry mouth like nothing one has ever experienced, the shakes, and the overall slugishness that lags on well after baseline, this has been swims worst comedown.
El Calico Loco
21-12-2006, 02:46
Hm. Swim has never had any bad comedowns from RCs. They've all left a nice glow the next day, even when he took too much. Adequate sleep, hydration, and nutrition probably helped.
DXM is another one that usually leaves a pleasant afterglow. The one time he did have a DXM hangover, he had taken 16mg/kg to go to the 4th plateau and drank grapefruit juice to increase the ratio of DXM to DXO and smoked cigarettes to kick the trip up a notch. He must have been at the 6th plateau. It was a 24-hour trip with a 12-hour hangover; just extreme fatigue and general malaise.
His one crack experience left him shaking the next day; he had also been drinking a lot and smoking weed, however, so it was probably the combination.
His meth comedown didn't seem so bad; he thinks the days without food or sleep were more to blame for the shakiness and ill feeling than the drug itself.
Swim's most common - and most horrible - day-afters have been caused by nothing more than our old friend ethanol.
ECL
So far anyway, longer runs of cocaine use take the prize. SWIM is neither interested in nor capable of doing anything more than turning the TV to the automated weather channel... he finds the meaningless repetition, soothing female voice and pretty blue colors help keep the anhedonia at bay... a little bit anyway.
The only drug SWIM's ever had any serious crash from was cocaine. Even when he's thrown up or blacked out from drinking he doesn't get hang overs, and he has never had a real 'crash' from MDMA. But the comedown from cocaine was just one of the worst feelings of his life.
El Calico Loco
21-12-2006, 08:43
So far anyway, longer runs of cocaine use take the prize. SWIM is neither interested in nor capable of doing anything more than turning the TV to the automated weather channel... he finds the meaningless repetition, soothing female voice and pretty blue colors help keep the anhedonia at bay... a little bit anyway.
Ha! Yes! Swim loves that channel, too. Especially when he's tripping.
ECL
pankreeas
21-12-2006, 09:09
soothing female voice and pretty blue colors help keep the anhedonia at bay... a little bit anyway.
Swim definetly can relate to the power of the female voice. He also has a set routine he puts forth. Not just during bad comedown, but also when he gets the tell tale sign of a trip starting to go sour.
Swim grabs his portable music player with headphones (as it's usually late) and always has his soul lifted to a higher place by the voice of Elizabeth Fraser (singer for the Cocteau Twins).
FrankenChrist
21-12-2006, 17:38
Swim thinks the worst part is when you are laying in bed and have to do something in the morning and you start to here the birds the chirp. god damn birds
Swim may not be a coke user, but he knows what you mean. He stayed at dorms for a couple of months and nearly broke down because of lack of sleep (not substance related, noise related).
The most depressing thing were indeed the birds, who make you realise that you are still not asleep. Pure psychological torture.
Swim thinks the worst part is when you are laying in bed and have to do something in the morning and you start to here the birds the chirp. god damn birds
Swim got that this morning. Ugh.... Especially when you have to get up sometime reasonable so no passing out for a long time. Just laying down and trying to fall asleep but unable to because of the coke is terrible.
A few days ago swim did yay and needed to sleep an hour and a half later so he took a few Sonata (Zaleplon) which just ended up with him trying to go to sleep but unable to and lots of crazy open and closed eye hallucinations that ranged from freakishly bizarre to plain malevolent. Then after that wore off swim was still awake and couldn't sleep so he just had to sit through the come down until he reached the apex of crappy withdrawal and tired feelings after which his mind and body were worn out enough to let him somehow block them out and pass out.
Alcohol can be bad the day after, but cocaine is swim's least favourite come down by far when he combines it with staying up through the night.
Riconoen {UGC}
22-12-2006, 06:24
another bad hangover swim has to mention is lunesta, you feel really tired and lethargic the next day and have the worst drymouth ever.
pankreeas
22-12-2006, 08:55
Alcohol can be bad the day after, but cocaine is swim's least favourite come down by far when he combines it with staying up through the night.
For swim the day after a coke binge is totally fine, and he feels every time he uses it he takes away something very beneficial.. as for alcohol, swims potential hangover is easily curbed by resorting to driking only water for the last hour or so before passing out along with a little bit of aspirin, some restraint, and a dash of common sense. However from a binge on coke that also involved alcohol throughout, physical ill-effects the next day are nil, but on the downside swim gets a slight bout of depression and for the beginning of the day constantly has that nagging feeling that he should not mimic the previous nights events for a long time... luckily it only lasts for a lil while then he is ready to further explore the threshold of his limitless imagination.
The Mama
23-12-2006, 15:57
SWIM is neither interested in nor capable of doing anything more than turning the TV to the automated weather channel... he finds the meaningless repetition, soothing female voice and pretty blue colors help keep the anhedonia at bay... a little bit anyway.
LOL I thought I was the only one who used this method for soothing a hangover. Although my choice is usually the National Geographic Channel.
Especially when it's that guy with deep monotone voice. I find it to be very calming.
wasted_youth
25-12-2006, 02:03
Although apperently the only one, SWIW always find the LSD comedown the worse. Granted SWIW has never taken coke and when he does take LSD he takes ALOT.
But the next day from acid when there's been no sleep, SWIW always finds his mind is too scattered to comphrend anything. There's still that acid feel around, that taste in the mouth. Digestive system fucked, small possibly pyscotic episodes. Puts SWIW off almost.
Fantasian
30-12-2006, 03:27
It's that dopamine feel that SWIF and his friends can't handle. Thatfeeling of total and utter defeat...
blinkKDX
05-01-2007, 01:55
swim would rather feel a little depressed before feeling like complete crap from a alcohol hangover.
BZP
"Safe" legal high my ass.
BZP
"Safe" legal high my ass.
Swim would have to agree with you there, though he finds many parts of the BZP (and BZP + TFMPP) experience to be unpleasant as well.
If you overdo it though, the next day is not nice at all. Its like all your emotions are drained.
humdroid
05-01-2007, 20:36
SWIM voted coke as although they have only tried it two or three times years ago, each time the negative mental effects were waaaaaaaaaaay too intense and SWIM was scared of damaging themselves.
SWM also thinks there are other drugs with bad comedowns, such as amphetamine (not meth but amphetamine sulphate/base/billy wizz/non meth speed etc
BZP also gave SWIM an awful comedown, they tried wickedhighs orange x 3, and although the high was out of this world, wouldnt do BZP again.
Booze also is on SWIMS worst comedown list, as this is god awful.
Ugh...... swim is feeling like crap after chugging most of a bottle of Old English High Gravity in one go followed by vodka and god knows what else.
This isn't even a bad hangover, but its still nastier than most any drug come down swim can think of unless he pushed things way too far.
DigitalAngel
08-01-2007, 01:16
Interesting, alcohol at the top!
For SWIM coke gives the worst physical comedown. I always feel worn down, sometimes dizzy and generally unable to to motivate myself.
However mentally, the trophy has to goto MDMA/pills. SWIM feels ratty, short with people, uninterested in social interaction and borderline paranoid occasionally
pankreeas
08-01-2007, 01:57
I think comedown and crashing are similar to a hangover , yet completely different. Same in the sense that they are both reminders that no matter how immortal we feel when indulging in our toxic choice(s) of the evening, when their effects subside, their true power is shown in the form of "told ya so"..
However a hangover is typically the worst when waking up from a night of heavy drinking, as with a crash/comedown, it's just a matter of gettin to r.e.m sleep and then all is good.. most times..
It's defiantly Alcohol for SWIM. He's had bad hangovers from other substances too, that goes without saying but the amount of times and the severity of them means the winner is Alcohol.
Or can SWIM vote for red bull?
Red Bull and Vodka's all night = no sleep (It's like way too many xtc pills if you have too much) and the worst taste in your mouth the next morning. Oh and don't forget the lovely feeling of the sugar buzz in your brain. The sound of tip toeing never sounded so loud
Mixing cocaine and alcohol have produced some hellish comedowns for swim, basically resulting in extreme dehydration that won't go away no matter how much he drinks. It's not cool waking up at 3 pm the next day and basically losing a whole day to lethargy, especially if you've got lots of things to do. Swim's teeth also tend to hurt for some reason the day after coke and then can be pretty annoying.
London_Bloke
12-02-2007, 00:33
SWIM can't answer this - because in this little swimmer's lexicon, a comedown is one thing, a hangover is another.
JKLJKLJKL
12-02-2007, 00:39
MDMA comedowns - irritable, constantly tired, overly emotional, gets the "midweek blues" - feels incredibly depressed for next to no reason.
mistermisfit
18-02-2007, 17:24
SWIM says Red Bull and BZP. SWIM Couldnt sleep and still wrecked 2 days later.
Mona Lisa
18-02-2007, 22:58
:o :eek: mixing drinks, especially beer, wine, whiskey and spirits.:p
GreatWonder
19-02-2007, 22:50
Alcohol has provided SWIG with a 3 day hangover on one occasion. It wasn't much fun lying there watching it get light then dark for 3 consecutive days - only getting up to piss, which wasn't all that often. Alcohol also makes SWIG very anxious, depressed and panicky. For proper comedowns SWIG could personally recommend Amphetamine. The leg cramps and depression always provide SWIGs friends with many hours of entertainment.
The worst hangover swim ever experienced was when he had a mild concussion and decided to go to a party. He took a decent amount of painkillers to get rid of the headache, then smoked a joint and drank some beers (no idea how many). The next thing he remembers is waking up feeling like total crap unable to get out of bed for a few hours. It serves him right for acting so stupid.
Swim didn't try any stimulant except for xtc (only once), and that's the only substance he tried of which he found the downcoming irritating, although he felt great the days after. (Alcohol doesn't irritate swim when it wears off, but it can give a hangover the next day.)
enquirewithin
27-03-2007, 03:19
Short-term, alchohol can be bad-- nasty physical symptoms (nasuea, headache, general malaise) and the feeling that you have humiliated yourself (you have!).
Amphetamines, over a long period can make you very depressed and psychotic as well! An excess of MDMA can give a very psychologically twisted hangover for a while.
Overdoze
29-03-2007, 06:47
Coke!!!!!
El Calico Loco
30-03-2007, 14:15
Pepsi!!!!!
Blue.. Like Water
30-03-2007, 14:29
Honestly for SWIM it's ADD/ADHD pills. No drug has ever made SWIM as miserable as a high dose of concerta.
Divalici0us
29-06-2007, 03:56
SWIM shays crack
augentier
30-06-2007, 00:18
SWIM's worst hangover has been from morphine..nausea, puking, just wanting to lie down and sleep, can't really eat much, feels "off".. morphine sucks :(
psycho joe
01-07-2007, 03:15
why isnt BZP in the Poll? thats by faaaaaaaaar the worst come down in swims experience
Kernacktur
20-09-2007, 13:53
For SWIM coke, ritalin and amphetamine are the worse and all about the same. SWIM hates those comedowns the worse because they can't be "slept off" immediately and the craving for dopamine can sometime be rather hellish. Something else though SWIM usn't a drinker he used to occasionally and when he did he got rather intoxicated. Yet he's never had a "hang over" per say. Just one occasion when he drank straight liquor early one afternoon and felt shitty to say the least later on that evening. Anyone else able to dodge to hangover bullet or just lucky enough not to get it?
SWIM's never had a hellish comedown, or even a particularly bad one, believe it or not. However SWIM hasn't done coke or stronger amphetamines. One thing he notices with alcohol is that when the effects subside and he's still awake - normally if he gets incredibly drunk he falls asleep first - then he gets very depressed. Normally SWIM would be able to control this but because it's alcohol, such a 'mundane' thing, and because the effects subside so subtly, he's never expecting it and it always hits him.
Codehead
15-10-2007, 09:06
DXM first plateau. SWIM has done amphetamine, E, alcohol, etc, but still the DXM 1p is the worst, second comes alcohol.
New one for swim: being hungover, trying to comedown off of benzedrex (with an inhaler that wasnt broken up very well), having marijuana wear off and just starting to develop a fever from the flu. That one was really really bad. Swim felt like his face was melting, he had menthol burps, he was extremely dehydrated, had to piss every 30 seconds and just the general feeling of death.
killa whale
16-10-2007, 03:01
alcohol hangovers have got to be the worst physically the next day. SWIM doesnt get them often, but when he does, its hell.
but the comedown from coke and mdma together two nights in a row was one of the low points in SWIM's life.
JaWill88
17-10-2007, 07:44
SWITC is quite suprised nobody has mentioned heroin's comedown.
When SWITC experimented with heroin and coke for some time, he often mixed the two. This mix produced the worst crashes of his life. As his habit went on with these drugs, the crashes just got worse and worse until one day when SWITC discovered his dealer was no longer accessible.
Thankfully, SWITC no longer has to worry about these hellish crashes because he now only uses LSD, Marijuana and RC's.
heroin doesn't really have a comedown.. unless swiTC means withdrawal which is after the comedown. then thats the worst by far. is that what swiy meant? oh yeah cocaine has the worst actual comedown by a long shot. especially when slamming and doing shot after shot after shot. swim has never encountered a feeling so miserable.
JaWill88
17-10-2007, 07:45
oh yeah alcohol has the worst hangover
FrankenChrist
17-10-2007, 19:55
I have to ask the people who name alcohol as the drug with the worst hangover: is this because alcohol is the only drug you use?
I don't think alcohol hangovers usually last a week as they can from things like MDMA
Psych0naut
17-10-2007, 21:05
Even after popping ridiculous amounts of pills SWIM only felt crappy the day after, no more than one day after taking them, same goes for other amphetamines. SWIMs alcohol hangovers also lasted just one day, but they were living hell. Puking till you're dry heaving, wretching and puking up your intestines and yellow bile, headaches that Fentanyl won't even touch, and feeling shitty like you never felt before. That just shows how bad alcohol is, severely dehydrating your body, especially your brain, dissolving your stomach lining, and killing your liver and brain cells. Yuck.
Benjamin Bones
21-10-2007, 20:10
SWIM likes to binge on speed and alcohol.
SWIM finds that forcing himself to eat ameliorates the worst bits of speed comedowns.
Booze withdrawal is always a killer though.
kakakaka
22-10-2007, 20:16
Physicaly, coke without a doubt. Swim never really gets a comedown from most drugs (hardly even gets a bad hangover from days of drinking) but after using coke at the weekend for a few months (about a .5 / 1 gram a night fri & sat) it really started to drain swim. Felt like he had a cold all week untill Friday when it all seemed to cleared up......
Mentaly, ecstasy. Mid-week downers really hit swim when he was already suffering from depression.
bl0whydr0420
23-10-2007, 05:34
for swim, its between cocaine and alcohol.
cocaine is swim's least favorite, yet most favorite drug. will go through an eightball at a time, twice a week. swim can't just do a line and stop tho, so during an evenings time, the whole eightball is gone. and then comes the comedown. swim will feel very very depressed, will crave more of the cocaine, sometimes will just burst into tears just because such sadness is brought along. it gets hard to breath, swim gets twitchy and nervous. is just hell.
as for alcohol, it just gives swim one nasty hangover. very drained, and a very painful headache. and swim doesnt really enjoy the time while intoxicated, its not worth the hangover for swim.
user!game
08-11-2007, 00:49
bzp always makes SWIM feel like complete shit and unable to sleep for a few days after taking it. thats why Swim is never doing that orrible stuff again.
babooon7
05-12-2007, 15:32
The combination of alcohol and amphetamines is the winner for Swim. He has never felt worst in his life than when he was combining alot of alcohol with speed. The speed comedown plus the alcohol comedown plus the lack of sleep is just torture (Extreme depression, fatigue, paranoia, irritability, feeling of falling apart completely). These days Swin tries not to drink too much when doing speed because those hangovers are terrible and the high is just not close to being worth living this hell the day after.
rocksmokinmachine
05-12-2007, 16:52
Piperazines
Amphetamine sulphate
raven3davis
05-12-2007, 17:50
Worst come down in SWIMs opinion is shitty coke. Good pure stuff doesn't give SWIM a bad comedown its only the shitty stuff. Meth will do the trick too if SWIM doesn't have benzos.
SuprSonik
05-12-2007, 21:29
SWIM voted for cocaine and amphetamines. They both have a similar comedown effect for SWIM, which is feeling completely drained of energy, incredible depression, and just a feeling of all-around misery. SWIM avoids using them now, as he already suffers from depression, and using either of those makes SWIM come dangerously close to putting a bullet in his head. Amphetamine seems to create a longer, drawn out period of misery, while coke is shorter (day after, mostly) but more intensely miserable.
SWIM hasn't tried MDMA, but guesses it would probably be even worse than those two given that it is related to amphetamines AND drains your supply of serotonin.
Alcohol can be pretty bad, but SWIM always drinks a lot of water and rarely lets himself get out of control when drinking, so he has never had a real bad alcohol hangover/comedown. When he does have one, he treats it with a mild dose of some sort of opioid and maybe a bit of caffeine. That tends to make the hangover effects subside.
ReAlitY-HoLds-NonE
05-12-2007, 22:25
SWIM finds that the LSD comedown isnt a comedown as such, its part of the experience, that feeling of :confused: -what just happened, and not being able to think, being completly blank, is awsome...
MDMA/Pills have the worst comedown in SWIMs exeperience; it just obliterates all good stuff in your head,,, the comedown IS NOT fun
SuprSonik
06-12-2007, 05:46
SWIM finds that the LSD comedown isnt a comedown as such, its part of the experience, that feeling of :confused: -what just happened, and not being able to think, being completly blank, is awsome...
MDMA/Pills have the worst comedown in SWIMs exeperience; it just obliterates all good stuff in your head,,, the comedown IS NOT fun
For SWIM, the LSD comedown just results in a very sleepy feel which lasts for a while, and a more philosophical way of thinking for a day or so.
ReAlitY-HoLds-NonE
06-12-2007, 17:49
For SWIM, the LSD comedown just results in a very sleepy feel which lasts for a while, and a more philosophical way of thinking for a day or so.
the philosophical thought is epic... tis why SWIM said it was part of the experience, its just at the point when he has just realized that he is no longer tripping and coming down that he cant really think of anything relevant.. maybe just remember things but not connect them
Swim absolutely dreads the comedown of cocaine. He hates it enough to never go above a gram in a session.
Swim actually gets no comedown whatsoever from MDMA and very little from cocaine. Even with crack, swim would much rather ride out the 5-10 minutes of feeling worn out than the 12 hours of being crushed from booze.
Swim's 1st time with heroin, swim felt like complete crap. Swim was doing bumps of cocaine as well during the night. So swim nose was hurting and was going through some withdrawals lol. Swim felt quite depressed as well for a day or two.
Other then that most comedowns don't bother swim that much.
Coke is most def swims least fav comedown. But he has found out that any comedown can be fixed with a lil weed. As long as he has weed swim is A ok.
rocksmokinmachine
19-12-2007, 12:47
why isnt BZP in the Poll? thats by faaaaaaaaar the worst come down in swims experience
That is why there is the option to select 'Other: Please state'
SWIM says piperazines have an awful comedown
doggy_hat
22-01-2008, 02:39
It's a tie between Concerta and Methadone for SWIM. Concerta has really nasty physical hangovers when one likes to snort over half a gram of methylphenidates in a one night span, makes SWIM feel like his body is going to fail, because of all the abuse it took from the stimulant. Can't stand the full body sensation of pain. Although SWIM doesn't mind the sleeplessness at all. Whenever SWIM uses CNS stimulants he plans to stay up all night and doesn't go to bed. SWIM doesn't really understand why people always try so hard to go to bed after using stimulants when it's so easy to just pull an allnighter.methadone was just really bad mentally, SWIM snorted a few pills worth(don't remember what mg the pills were) and just layed down and did nothing, but it was so blissfull,peacefull, and perfect. When the High ended SWIM was incredibly pissed off and desperate for more like never before.
Greenport
03-02-2008, 07:34
SwiM never had any problems with an mdma comedown unless impure. Usually a day of rest will solve - just watch tv, play video games, and chill. Swim won't touch coke but hears it has a very bad comedown. Amphetamines he understands has a hellish comedown too.
Alcohol hangovers can be prevented if alcohol is used wisely and if swiY takes measures to prevent problems - Vitamin C helps. Water helps. Bread may help. SwiM doesn't really like alcohol much.
rocksmokinmachine
03-02-2008, 12:40
Pure MDMA has never caused any problems for SWIM either. He can sleep straight after and actually feels better in the morning. This is colloquially known in Northern England as "Happy Mondays".
experimenter
15-02-2008, 03:39
1 - Ecstasy, these days SWIM has to do high doses to get where he wants to be.
2 - LSD only because of the lack of sleep, SWIM often ends up doing acid on the trail end of a night of drinking, and ends up staying awake for 30 hours +
3 - Alcohol only in 3rd because SWIM drinks so often, even so, he has spent way too many days puking in the bath tub swearing he'd never drink again.
rocksmokinmachine
15-02-2008, 10:01
I think alot of people forget piperazines. BZP, what an awful comedown. The worst headache, sensitivity to light, muscle aches, tiredness (sleep won't come no mater how hard one tries). This is probably the hangover from hell.
ILoveYou
04-03-2008, 09:48
Swim once sniffed gasoline. It was the worst comedown in my entire life. My head felt like it was going to explode.
SWIM has had some pretty bad comedowns on coke. It's really only when SWIM does a good amount and runs out mid-night/morning. Never makes for a fun time after that.
SWIM has had bad MDMA comedowns but he concludes that there must have been something along the lines of speed/meth/caffeine in those pills. SWIM has a testing kit now and wont roll without testing.
The wrost comedown in SWISaybin's opinion would have to be alcohol. Maybe not so much the comedown but the hangover the next day is the worst of all. Nothing like wanting to throw up the all day after a long night of hard drinking -.-.
SWIM's favorite comedown would have to be mushrooms. That's when his mind seems to really get going and just loves the ideas cranking out of his head.
Piperazines - especially mcpp and meopp
2ai aka 2-Aminoindan :eek:(worst comedown beeing on it and coming up..)
2cb-fly aka 1-(8-bromobenzo[1,2-b;4,5-b']difuran-4-yl) -2-aminopropane (strange stuff.. takes a while to comedown from that stuff )
Papaver somniferum and his children
Ethanol :thumbsdown:
donZen
hbombhbomb
20-03-2008, 16:17
BOOZE. Ugh. It gets worse the older you get. SWIM cannot drink anymore like when SWIM was a teenager
kaczynski
20-03-2008, 17:24
Oh God, cocaine. SWIM has had some absolutely horrible experiences after a long night of use. The comedown usually starts for SWIM as soon as the coke starts to run out. SWIM has gotten into debt that he couldn't afford to pay on several occasions in his desperation to fend off comedowns.
Graduisic
20-03-2008, 20:11
piperazines for sure are the worst comedown. not to mention swim thought BZP and TFMPP both sucked.
swim has felt like shit after alcohol and MDMA and basically you-name-it, and while even after experiencing near alcohol poisoning, swim still found himself in a greater personal hell after trying piperazines.
DeadGeneral
01-04-2008, 01:45
The worst comedown SWIM has ever felt is after shooting coke. He gets all achey and restless. MDMA is a close second.
Salvinorin A
01-04-2008, 04:13
Not so much comedown...but swim has had some miserable hangovers from DXM.
But just recently, which swim found very interesting, he had a horrible comedown from dmt....it was barely even a come down (since it started several hours after the short DMT trip).
It felt a like the usual bad MDMA comedown or even psychological opiate withdrawal; however, unlike those, swim had absolutely no intention to do something about it. (on the others, swim just prefers taking some more to make things all better, or just doing something fun and/or productive, but for this one, swim didn't even want that, he didn't even want anything really, as if nothing in the world could make him happy or useful.....pretty much wanted death...but even if death was the solution, swim didn't even want to go through the process of suicide (laziness?)....so essentially wanting to do nothing.....very hard to describe..but luckily...swim was exhausted and sleep was the remedy.
Not that swim is suicidal or anything (or even unhappy, he's a very happy person)....it was just very very odd......especially from dmt (which happens to give him the greatest euphoria compared to any other drug for some reason). DMT, for swim, usually gives him an amazing trip every time in which he'd like to be wherever dmt takes him forever, then he comes down to an incredible euphoria...and when he comes back to baseline, he is generally in an elevated mood (unlike a lot of other feel good drugs). Just a little unexpected when it hit. Maybe it wasn't even the dmt...could have been the harmaline swim took (a few weeks ago) to potentiate dmt trips. Who knows?
Sal-A
[éS]Infinite
06-04-2008, 19:52
SWIM tends to stay away from stimulating drugs, as he has two instances in mind which weren't in any way positive. His only time experimenting with pressed E pills landed him a nasty migraine for a few days. Also, coming off of an extended DOB trip left him feeling completely strung out and insane, as if he were stuck in that state for eternity (however this was still a VERY positive and influencing trip).
rocksmokinmachine
08-04-2008, 21:34
Infinite;395366']. His only time experimenting with pressed E pills landed him a nasty migraine for a few days
This often happens when 'ecstasy' tablets have been adulterated with piparizines (BZP, MCCP and the like), the headache, sensitivity to light and nausea are horrendus.
Comedown is Ethyl-Cathinone in SWIM's case, especially if SWIM where on it like 24 hours straight, when SWIM stopped, he couldnt sleep for at least 4 hours, and the headache could kill him :(
And hangovers must be MDMA.. No more love to give or gain :(
outriderx
09-04-2008, 20:09
swim thinks bzp in larger doses is quite disgusting
dreamingawake
10-04-2008, 19:22
Booze + zolpidem...SWIM felt like a dead person the next day.
Matt The Funk
10-04-2008, 20:09
Fentanyl and MDMA(high doses). Fentanyl makes SWIM feel like dying after a binge. It's just like a big fat withdrawal. High doses of MDMA taken on accident by SWIM can also cause bad depression and anxiety (even worse then his already horrible anxiety, not to mention he's bipolar). The shakes he gets from both are horrible, along with horrible stomach pains, being unable to eat, irritable, no motivation, etc. Oh and no sleep, yet feeling like SWIM hasn't slept in years.
Booze + zolpidem...SWIM felt like a dead person the next day.
Swim's favorite cocktail after giving up speed. It doesn't affect her. She just can't remember what she did which can be problematic. :s
Worst comedown...has to be coke. Swim had to give that stuff up long ago as everytime she was coming down, she thought literally she was dying. Bad stuff.
dreamingawake
16-04-2008, 01:46
Swim's favorite cocktail after giving up speed. It doesn't affect her. She just can't remember what she did which can be problematic. :s
Indeed. when she has taken zolpidem with booze, SWIM always seems to have blacked out and cannot remember how she got to where she woke up. SWIM has taken 2 zolpidems tonight and shes having a nice time, but hopefully won't be too memory-challenged because shes taken them minus the booze :)
rxbandit
16-04-2008, 02:03
Swim's worst crash was undoubtedly off of bk-MDBD or butylone. His body was all pins and needles, he couldn't see straight, he was dizzy dehydrated, nauseas, head aching and unable to sleep.
the dose was about double the recommended but not all that over the top...
never again lol
It's good to hear some of this stuff - it rings true with some harsh times in SWIM's life. He thinks you have to separate the physical pain from the psychological pain when it comes to comedowns. His worst comedowns are psychological.
After 3 days of constant MDMA (the were other drugs but the MDMA was the constant and I did sleep a bit as well) SWIM was sent to a very dark place. Fuck, guys, SWIM's not much of a writer so it's difficult to get just how fucked his mind was. He went for a pint with an old friend. Before he got there SWIM was trying to keep himself together; when his friend walked in SWIM had to go to the fucking toilets and weep for a few minutes. I could barely speak to my mate I was so sad.
The sadness was so huge, just overwhelming - SWIM thought he'd have to go to a fucking mental hospital or something - he was falling apart.
After a week it went away. SWIM just woke up and it was gone; he could tell instantly. SWIM went for a drink with his mates that night to celebrate, and as he stepped out under the winter stars he felt reborn, a new man.
Incredibly intense, incredibly poignant, but that's drugs for you.
runfrom MURDER
14-07-2008, 02:25
$200 - 300 worth of high grade powerful crystal meth smoked within a day and a half or so.
Just try not to kill yourself with a knife, the second that comedown starts and you're bag is empty.
Good God swim relates to that one. Oh yes that is hell on earth. Smoking thru a ball in a day is just something one can't describe unless he has been thru it. It is horrible. Then she kicks herself for putting her own self thru that hell again on purpose.
funkm0nkey520
14-07-2008, 07:12
alot of people think ecstasy has the wirst come down but i really dont think its that bad if you have a few hours to sleep after its worn off. however with alcohol i feel like shit the whole next day and dont want to do anything
tryptamaster
15-07-2008, 02:03
For swim it is a tie between amphetamines and ritalin, very similair crashes the insomnia, headache, and sadness is jsut awful.
Dexyfiend
15-07-2008, 07:57
For SWIM it would have to be methylphenidate(ritalin), SWIM hasnt done it in a looong time but he used to find the high very intense and lovey dovey kinda like a really good E but the comedown is horrible and it seems like it hit's almost instanty.
One minute your high as a kite and then boooom straight back down to earth... horrible.
Meth comedown is probably worse but only in large quantitys which for swim is only a couple of points. The comedown itself dosent seem that bad... it's the 'being an emotional mess for days' thing that I cant handle
Alternative_Realities
15-07-2008, 08:28
swim sees a lot of people are responding to this with their thoughts on hangover, not comedown as the topic states. Oh, swim just noticed the poll is for a hangover, this thread should be more specific lol :P Yes, for a hangover the worst is probably alcohol, but for the comedown, swim finds ketamine extremely loathesome: the few hours period after the primary effect wears off, in which every sense is wrecked: taste, smell, touch. the period when you aren't interested in absolutely anything and it's even hard to smile. The period which can last for 2 days after a major k binge - now that, friends is the worst comedown.
Will have to be yaba, swim didn't take any for 7 years. (he used to take it nearly daily) He went for a holiday to Thailand and over done it, not fun!!
Meth has a similar come down, but swim thinks yaba is worse specially when taken in large quantities.
Its got a reason why the Thais call it cracy medicine.
drug-bot
20-07-2008, 11:13
without a doubt it would be mdma for swim. the depression and anxiety coupled with the fact his central nervous systems stimulated as fuck make sleep impossible (unless benzos or opiates are used) for about 8 hours, and when he wakes up he feels like he was struck by a bag of shit.
fiveleggedrat
19-08-2008, 00:30
For Swim by far, amphetamines and similar drugs.
Cocaine gets out the system quicker, and so do most other drugs.
Alcohol is easier for Swim to handle, and strong opiate use hangover? As long as not addicted, is nonexistant.
msmogadon
19-08-2008, 01:58
SWIMs worst comedown liying on the livingroom floor while small boy launches hiself off couch landing with all brute force on SWIMs battered body.............over.............and............. ........over.........and...........over..again&(
That was ecstacy and yes SWIM did it again next week
My friend says cocaine is the worst comedown, too much guilt and cravings..
Worst hangover is alcohol.. its the only substance that really gives me a hangover, just headache and upset stomach.. sucks.
lostmente
19-08-2008, 03:40
I loathed the come down off nutmeg. didn't have balance for about a week
I once took around 800 mgs of benadryl, the day after it feels like every bit of moisture in you body is gone and it feels like if you try to move you will tear apart from the inside out and you cant breath because your throat and asophagus are so dry that the air just sticks to the back of your throat. but whats even worse is 'trippin' on this because you get to sit there as your body disenagrates into nothing but string of dried flesh and flaky bone while you feel like you have'nt slept in a year but are in too much pain and discomfort to sleep. whats even worse is that ive done this multiple times after, thinking being fucked up like THIS is better than being sober.
kalininin
06-09-2008, 14:09
10 ecstacies in 12 hrs give a quite bad afterglow
10 ecstacies in 12 hrs give a quite bad afterglow
14 in 8 hours left one feeling very e-tarded, laughing at everything and anything.
it was actually very fun he said.
not recommened though, dont try this at home
KomodoMK
06-09-2008, 22:40
Drinking from 5pm to 4am and using cocaine created the worst hangovers for my little fishy. Not so bad when you can stay in bed for majority of the next day but when you have to be up for work in a couple of hours it's a killer. Especially when you get the 'nods' whilst your at work.
If it wasn't the combination it would be cocaine, as my little fishy always suffered a blocked nose and a clear discharge which just drips out the nose the next day, really horrible. Cokes a shit drug anyway.