View Full Version : Should psychedelic drugs be legalized?
wastebook
30-10-2003, 11:50
Should psychedelic drugs be legalised to the general public?
What doYOU think??
snowball
30-10-2003, 16:56
Legalize it NOW!!!
You are asking me: Should psychedelic substances with a low risk on addiction, public health, agression, be legalised and sold through retailers that can give customers all the required info and advise? Substances tested for purity and controlled by the government? Taxes producing state income? Criminals loosing income and governments gaining grip and ability to asses the use of it's citizens? Being lawfully allowed to take controlled of your own consciousness? Yes, ofcourse it should! It is part of democracy.
roisianna
11-11-2003, 00:11
People should be able to take what ever drugs they want, pschadelics can enhance your spirituality and give your opinions and thoughts on the world clarity, they enhance your knowledge of your existance, no-one should be deprived, they are part of life, blatently legalize..
Mushrooms should be legalized... along with peyote, but if this happons the public wouldneed to have alot more education about them presented. Spiritual inhancments should be widely discussed and the dangers of expanding the mind as well. maybe even lsd would be nice to have legalized.
Also, George Bush and his cronies should be fed large doses of lsd, chained to a chair, and made to watch people dieing in wars, and stuff alike. Maybe his eyes would open up to the world.
Ofcouse all drugs should be legalized.
Yep, all shoud be legal, but controlled somehow.
I think that one of the worst drug problem come from heroin and coke. These substances should have some control, and those who are addicted should be helped. I think the money generated by the oficial drug sell should be redirected in some part to the treatment.
LSD,for me, like cannabis and other drugs, is not a hard-drug, even if the effects could be very strong. But it is a "clean" drug. You dont get addicted, and if you are prepared for it, you will learn a lot with it.
Superball
22-01-2004, 14:44
Legallizing drugs seems infeasible.
The ideathat "drugs are bad"is used against society by politicians. If no drugs were illegal, you can be sure that some politician would makesome illegal. Then, an entrepreneur would take advantage of the scarcity of said drug and pay the police to hinder competition. As in any business, the biggest companies usually enjoy certain regulations in some ways.
With education this could change, but then another type of misinformation would be used.
Superball
22-01-2004, 14:51
What we need is more acceptance of academic research on psychedelics. This would get more interesting drugs out (more powerful forms of LSD, new hallucinogenic amphetamines, ...) and things would be a lot more fun.
Yes psychedelics should definatly be legalized, I dont see why we dont have this freedom in the first place but theres no hope for that to ever happen here, because the U.S. is ran by idiots who think all the worlds problems are because of drugs and junkies.......and marijuana.......what idiots.
microbunny
25-01-2004, 23:16
What a question to ask a bunch of users on a drugforum! I mean what do you think all these people are gonna say? huh?? tell me...
ohh, by the way, i vote yes as well!!
smartbee
25-02-2004, 20:27
Sure they should be legal, they belong in a smartshop, with a good prescription, make drugs, not war.
Otc in the smartshops and sold by people with good knowledge of their products, that's future, don't criminalize, legalize!!!
kitchkinet
10-03-2004, 18:12
It doesn't matter. No drug, be it PCP heroin or crack, scares the US government more than psychadelics. There's more power in that field of research then has been gained in the last 100,000 years. Most hallucinogens should not be legal since people won't know what they're getting themselves into. They should be decriminalized though and research should be encouraged, especcially into DMT. But it won't happen. America is afraid of what they'll discover.
tony_mac
10-03-2004, 20:16
Yeah, decriminalization makes more sense. But the gov't is afraid of another era like the 60's. To them, the psychedilics represent a deviation from "normal" ways of thinking and a desire of self-expression. I think at the heart of it, conservative-types admire the hard drug trade, after all it is an unbelievably high grossing enterprise.
Nevering
06-09-2005, 00:04
The government should not have the right to restrict peoples' consumption of earth's plants. Many are used as sacraments in many religions, while others improve health and well being.
Alcohol and Tobacco are much worse for a person than psychedelics. Too many tax dollarsare wasted in the name of saving us all from the evils of psychedelics, the amount should be ZERO.
Nature Boy
06-09-2005, 00:57
Mushrooms and mescaline cactus would be fine but I couldn't see LSD becoming legal simply because its effects are far too overwhelming for the average idiot who can't respect it. It looks as though humanity has shot itself in the foot with that one.Edited by: nature_boy_liam
fugazi32
15-09-2005, 19:13
There shouldn't be any rules or laws full stop......if people stopped fighting and kept themselves to themselves and lived in peace; ppl could have the choice to do what they want with their bodies.
Creeping Death
15-09-2005, 21:35
Mushrooms and mescaline cactus would be fine but I couldn't see LSD becoming legal simply because its effects are far too overwhelming for the average idiot who can't respect it. It looks as though humanity has shot itself in the foot with that one.
So i shouldn't eat a steak because a baby can't chew it?
I think that drugs should be legal. But also that schools teach alot about them. The reason that psychadelics are illegal are not because of health. It's because of what people discover when they're on it. You might see that money (what our societies are entierly based on) has no value. You might learn to love and that life is beautiful.
This all fully opposes every mainstream culture on the planet. Wich is why its "dangerous". I don't mind it, but the goverment and rich people do.
PenguinPhreak
15-09-2005, 22:06
Mushrooms and mescaline cactus would be fine but I couldn't see LSD
becoming legal simply because its effects are far too overwhelming for
the average idiot who can't respect it.
Keep in mind that a small dose of acid would be less intense than a
large dose of mushrooms or mescaline. Due to this fact legalization
would likely help prevent freakouts because you could choose you LSD
dosage instead of just taking whatever happens to be on your blotter.
Edited by: PenguinPhreak
korky8097
16-09-2005, 02:30
IMO the average idiot is too stupid to handle psychadelics. These
people are one of the biggest reasons legislation like this happen, i
mean back in high school i was just shocked at the stupidity of some
people. Kids eating seizure pills to get numb, going to school
and driving while drunk, doing psychadelics in school, it was
insain. There should be a very good program such as a "drivers
ed" for psychadelics. You take a course, learn everything, bodily
tests to see if you have adverse reactions, and if you dont pass or the
instructor feels you arent ready for psycadelics, you dont get a
license. And if one is cought selling some to a person who falls
under this stupid catigory i believe punishments should be
greater. Ahh, just my opinion on how it should work if things got
legalized, you cant just give an idiot such a powerful thing and expect
him to use it wisely. What really depresses me is the fact that
when i think of these people, i realize it makes up a large percentage
of the population of america.
PenguinPhreak
16-09-2005, 02:41
I certainly agree that stupid people shouldn't take psychedelics. But
do you think that prohibition is keeping it out of the hands of stupid
people? In my experience dumb people are more connected than the more
intellegent people who would benefit most from psychedelics.
Edited by: PenguinPhreak
Nature Boy
16-09-2005, 02:52
Mushrooms and mescaline cactus would be fine but I couldn't see LSD becoming legal simply because its effects are far too overwhelming for the average idiot who can't respect it. It looks as though humanity has shot itself in the foot with that one.
So i shouldn't eat a steak because a baby can't chew it?
I think that drugs should be legal. But also that schools teach alot about them. The reason that psychadelics are illegal are not because of health. It's because of what people discover when they're on it. You might see that money (what our societies are entierly based on) has no value. You might learn to love and that life is beautiful.
This all fully opposes every mainstream culture on the planet. Wich is why its "dangerous". I don't mind it, but the goverment and rich people do.
You could be right, but major, and I mean MAJOR overhauls would have to be made on society. Unfortunately, I cannot see it happening in the type of world we live in today. Everything is career, financial and goal-driven. I can't ever imagine the day where people were taught truthfully about drugs as a mandatory part of their education.
korky8097
16-09-2005, 03:24
I certainly agree that stupid people shouldn't take psychedelics. But
do you think that prohibition is keeping it out of the hands of stupid
people? In my experience dumb people are more connected than the more
intellegent people who would benefit most from psychedelics.
Such a sad truth. I believe that psycadelics in the hands of very
inteligent people is a great thing. most people never really hear
about it but there are many shining examples. Such as Einstein,
leary, metzner(probably butchered that one), ect. Im not saying
that Einstein wouldnt have come up with the things he did without LSD,
but i firmly believe he unlocked doors in his mind with it. These
people understood what good these substances have done for them.
All we hear about is either, "some kid took datura and walked across a
busy street today and got hit" kinds of things or "LSD stays in you
forever" propaganda. Its depressing.
And nature boy, I personally dont think it should be manditory.
If somebody makes a decision to not do psycadelics more power to them,
they shouldnt have to listen to speachs about things that they dont
personally want to do. It should be a thing where if somebody is
interested and wants to try it, they should go through it and not be
critisized for it. As long as the people who dont do it just
arent doing it because of some complete bullshit lie they were told by
uncle sam, im supportive of their decision.
It all kinda follows the quote "once the doors of perception are
cleansed things will apear as they truely are". Once all the lies
are gone, people will see the drug for what it really is in their eyes,
not what the government puts in their eyes. Not really what the
quote means truely but it works for that purpos. I guess thats
what the higher ups are fearing, PEOPLE WITH A MIND OF THEIR OWN.
Its much easier to govern a mass of uninformed people than open minded
free thinkers.
Bush probably was read "The Prince" by Machievelli before he became
President and is now using that little bit of knowlage to run this
country. While Machievelli had many great truths and is right
about many things, the way the bush administration acts upon it just is
not working very well right now. When it was said a leader should
be stingy rather than generous, im sure he had different idea in mind
than giving us such small things as a tax cut here and there and
expecting us to be eating out of his hand. And in this case, i
dont believe the end justifies all the means bush is doing, there is no
way to justify some of the crap he pulls, thus creating a crashing end.
Edited by: korky8097
Nature Boy
16-09-2005, 16:19
Meh, the Democrats are no better. Vote Green!
dreamatrix
15-11-2005, 18:43
dude seriously einstein , albert???einstein published his theory about general relativity in 1915.
Hey if you dont know, Denver CO. has just passed legality of marijuana
You have to be over the age of 21, and can have up to 1 oz.
Do a search, im sure you will find more info on it.http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif
marleysherb
22-11-2005, 02:30
Yes, denver did pass a law legalizing mj in "small quantities" in city
limits. However, it does say that federal law prohibits mj in any form
and can and will still be punishable by law. Only thing all the
phychonauts and the cannabis heads are missing is that every "drug"
regardless of it's status will become illegal. Think about it. Despite
how many people want drugs to be legal...the simple truth is that with
popularity comes legislation. That is why in the 60's and early 70's,
all "popular drugs" at the time were deemed illegal. That is what
drives the economy in the US. Everyone is still going the route of
"alchohol and cannibis", but as psychodelics become more popular in
this day in age, they too...regardless of legal status now will become
illegal.
Ever since southpark aired a show about DXM, cough syrup has been regulated. Think about it.
Barret VII
23-11-2005, 23:28
My ideal society is one in which all drugs are legally available. In reality this will probably never happen, but it is likely that soft drugs (e.g. marijuana, mushrooms) will be legalized someday. In my ideal society, there would be drug shops set up across the nation run by individuals which have earned a drug-selling license. These shops would sell the myriad of drugs out there; maybe even alcohol and tobacco products...or specialty products, like potka or special brownies. You would have to be 21 or older to be allowed to purchase anything, and you would need a driver's license or some other unique form of identification with you for every purchase. If cocaine, heroin, or other dangerous drugs (very easy to abuse) were to be made available, safe limits could be placed on the amount you are allowed to purchase within certain time intervals. Those with criminal records showing bad behavior (violence, or whatever else) would not be allowed to buy any hard drugs. If these people were to violate the law by obtaining a hard drug, both they and their providor would be severely punished.
Does this sound at all plausible?
polloloco001
23-11-2005, 23:46
sometihng like you are suggesting would cause a lot of problems. drugs
should not be available to the public. a lot of people would become
addicted to heroin and cocaine, a lot of people would take strong mind
bending drugs and have psychotic breakdowns and jump out windows.
everything should be available by prescription. psychedelics should be
available to anyone who wants to explore them and has passed a test to
demonstrate their mental heatlh. people with family histories of
schizophrenia or bi polar disorders or other mentla health issues
should not be prescribed psychedelic drugs for recreational use. as far
as very addictive drugs they should be provided for those who are
employed and succeeding in life enough that their habit will not
destroy their chance of havign a good life. the prescription would be
revoked if their life started falling apart. marijuana should be
available to virtually anybody. this is starting to happen with medical
pot clubs in california and is really causing no problems. the DEA
would still exist to regulate the natural black market that would be
created for prescription cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine,
benzodiazepines and whatever else could be sold to addicts who could
not get their prescriptions. alcohol would be regulated the same way as
other drugs. this is the most responsible way i can think of to end the
drug war without getting all of americas youthaddicted to drugs. organized crime would be gone and people could have an even handed education about drugs.