Old morphine suppositories?

[mikeyt]

Hey there. Was given a bunch of old 30 mg morphine sulfate suppositories (exp. date. 10/97). Was wondering:

1) anyone think they're still effective and safe?
2) anyone know a way to get the drug out of the suppository?

Thanks.

Mikey T

[Forthesevenlakes]

Hi,

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As for SWIY's question, morphine stays effective long after the expiration date. SWIM has read reports on erowid of people using morphine that was 30 years old, but kept in a cool dark place, and it still being effective. If these suppositories were kept away from light, moisture, and heat, they'd probably be fine.

SWIM has never seen an actual morphine suppository, so he cant answer the 2nd question. Rectal administration of morphine is supposed to work well, though. 30 mg may be too much if SWIy is opiate naive though.

[mikeyt]

Thanks for the response. SWIM wonders if trying half a suppository (15mg) first is a good idea, if they have not tried morphine before (but is plenty familiar with hydrocodone in the 20+ mg range).

Another question: can you correlate relative strengths? Say, 10mg oxycodone is stronger than 10mg hydrocodone. Where does 10mg morphine sulfate fit in?

[Forthesevenlakes]

10 mg morphine is roughly equivalent to 10 oxycodone, assuming 100% bioavailability. Rectal will not be 100% but it will be a large number, still. Check out the bioavailability thread in the opiates forum for more info.

If SWIY usually uses around 20 mg hydrocodone, perhaps 10 mg of suppository would be the best idea. They absorb pretty well and hit the user fast, apparently. It'd be better to work up the dose rather than take too much at the beginning.