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coldaslife
27-07-2004, 15:27
what are some good ways to effectively kick this shitty habit? i dont want to do it again, and i need to do some things that help destroy the addiction.
i know excercise is good, but what else? eat alot, drink alot? do positive things? ive been studying this stuff all morning but this seems like a knowledgeable board so i though id shoot the question here for real answers. also, it only stays in your system for 2 days, right? so that means after those 2 days im not physically addicted to the drug, just mentally? i know these are horrible newbie questions but im not much of a drug user, and i want coke outta my life.
one more question, is it alright to smoke weed while recovering from cocaine, or is it a bad idea? i enjoy weed very much. also, i am planning on trying shrooms soon so should i wait a little bit? i did coke last night but i never want it again.
str8ballin
27-07-2004, 16:42
The best way to get your mind off coke is to stay away from all the people that use cocaine.Next you want to find something to occupy your time like working or playing sports,or just anything that doesnt involve coke.
Cocaine stays in your system for 3 days but this has nothing to do with the physical or mental addiction.Even after the 3 days has passed,if you've been doing coke long enough then you will still feel that "itch".
Smoking weed will help you out alot as you try to kick the cocaine habit.For me,when Im high I dont even think about coke although I have to keep smoking joint after joint until I fall asleep.When I wake up coke is the only thing thats on my mind.My habit is alot worse than yours but there's still hope for you.
Pinkavvy
27-07-2004, 19:32
<BLOCKQUOTE> Originally posted by Nicaine on 27 July 2004
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<BLOCKQUOTE> Smoking weed will help you out alot as you try to kick the cocaine habit.For me,when Im high I dont even think about coke although I have to keep smoking joint after joint until I fall asleep.
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Do people really still smoke joints these days? :-p
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</BLOCKQUOTE>joints and blunts are my groups favorite smoking method. we alwyas have a case of swishers rolled and a 4x4x4inch box filled with joints.... it's good for on the go
searcher
27-07-2004, 21:31
When I stoped using cocane back in the day, I replaced it with weed, same as cigs. If I got an urge to snort or smoke a cig, I'd roll a fatty. Worked for me.
str8ballin,
sorry to keep bugging you, but you've got some great insight and helpful advice.. you mentioned before that you blew up at your g/f countless times over nothing because of coke.... what about total rage and mean, verbal abuse, etc?? Did you get that bad because of your habit? I ask because I am curious if my b/f raged against me purely due to the coke, or whether he is just an abusive person. thanks again :) Erin
str8ballin
29-07-2004, 16:58
Erin,
I was never verbally abusive before I starting using cocaine.I was with my g/f for about 2 years before I had started using and we hardly ever had an arguement.We couldn't get enough of each other and were together at all times.
Then things just went totally down hill from there.My habit started to grow to an everyday thing and it was starting to get very hard to keep this secret from her.When I would blow up at her,it would be because she would start to question me and start catching me in lies and I would just deny stuff to the fullest and I would get really angry and say alot of hateful and mean shit.
Or when I wanted to leave the house to go hang out with my friends and do coke,she would never want me to leave.I would get so pissed,end up making her cry,and then just leave.The coke really got a hold of me and that was all I cared about.
So to answer your question about your bf,I would say if he just started being verbally abusive out of nowhere then it is more than likely caused by coke.But if he was abusive from the start then thats the type of person he just might be.All I can say though is coke will just make things worse.Hope this helps.
THANK YOU :) it does help, a LOT. This is EXACTLY how he was. Blowing up outrageously when I've confronted him with the lies and the crap.
When you were mean, were you aware of it and feel terrible about it later?? Did you know you were being unfair and unreasonable? I'm just trying to understand it all... I wish I could help him, but I can't.
Erin
str8ballin
29-07-2004, 19:12
I was aware when I was being mean but I just didn't care.All I wanted to do was coke and that's all I cared about at that time.Then when I would come home I would feel really bad and try to make up with her and tell her never again but I would just do the same thing the next day.
You see,I worked just about everyday(pizza hut heh) and everybody I worked with did the shit so we would all be in the back doing it up and after work we would all meet up at somebody's house and continue it there.My girl would always get pissed because I never came right home after work,she thought I was out screwing around but I never cheated on her once.It was just all about the coke.
Eventually she found out about my problem through the grapevine but I just couldn't stop for the life of me.I had it so good and I just loved the lifestyle.I don't think relationships can last when only one partner does the shit because there's always gonna be the lies and heartbreak.It was just best that we split up and go our seperate ways although I would have loved to have my cake and eat it to.It just doesnt work out that way.You gotta make a choice.
If your boyfriend is addicted there's really nothing you can do for him.He has to do it on his own and decide for himself what is more important to him.If he really wants to help himself he'd enter a rehab program and try to atleast kick the habit and see what happens.He has to WANT to quit and do everything in his power to stay away from the drug.Something I haven't been able to do.It's hard let me tell you.
wow.... sounds like a really tough thing to get over, I am sympathetic... you still trying to quit?
I understand what you're saying.. he chose the coke. he tried to blame me for his lying, and everything else he was doing.he really was an asshole. he became so mean that I told him to never contact me again.. he told me to fuck off. and that was the end.Nice, huh??
he's surrounded by friends like your Pizza Hut deal, so I don't think he'll quit unless he moves...
So, did your g/f just get fed up and leave, or how did it end.. did you start dating someone who did coke with you? Is that too intrusive to ask?
-Erin
str8ballin
29-07-2004, 20:18
It ended on July 5th of last year.The week leading up to the breakup we weren't even in the same state.She was visiting family in West Virginia and usually I'm very protective with my gf's but I just let her go.I was going to have the whole house to myself for the week so I didn't care and I had a blast let me tell you.heh....But it was so bad that we hadn't had an sexual contact in like a month so I knew the end was coming any minute now.
When she got back it was like I wasn't even happy to see her.In fact I didn't even come home the night she got back because I was out partying.So the next morning all she's doing is bitching and that was just the last straw for me.I packed up my shit and moved out.
We tried to work things out for the next 6 months or so but we just grew further and further apart and now we don't even speak to each other.It's just better that way.
Since then I haven't been in another relationship simply because I don't want to be tied down like I was before and I want to be able to do whatever I please and not have to worry about the lying,having people check up on me, and shit like that.I'm only 20 so I just want to have fun while I still can.
Erin. Str8bllin... You guys can sure talk to each other. I'm glad you two found each other because you both needed to talk about exactly what you've talked about. It helps to get things out. Erin, you seem really sweet and cool, and I just want to tell you, an abusive man is an abusive man, and rarely do they change... Str8- I'm glad you're talking a little bit about your break-up, you need to.
Can I play matchmaker here, please????
I will vouch for str8, he is cool as F$#k and against sh*t like violence against women.
Pinkavvy
29-07-2004, 21:25
Erin - understand that man, or even woman, that becomes violent within a relationship needs help and will never change without it.
wow, you beyoung! guess it makes sense for you then.. not being committed if you're just having fun. being single/free certainly has its advantages :) See, I'm 33, he's 34. we're old! hahaa. we're BOTH done with the dating thing.. been there :) and he was SO gung ho on buying a place together, getting married... said he would happily give up coke for all of that... he'sbeen in love with me since high school, and looked me up after 18 years, he's even included me in a book he's written, and was soooo happy to be with me in the begining.... only to have this happen with a terrible ending, andmany fights, mainly because of his coke.. of course, I wasn't a totalangel myself and contributed to our fights if I got drunk... regardless, stupidly, I'm hoping it will hit him that he lost the woman he's loved his whole life because of his addiction.. this week he tried to tell me he's seeking help.. not sure if I believe him. doesn't matter since I told him never to contact me again. But, if this were you, and you were doing coke less than you have (maybe once/twice a week), you thinklosingsomeone like me, as he did,would motivate you to quit??
or, maybe it's just fucking stupid to be that hopeful!!
Pinkavvy
29-07-2004, 21:42
It may motivate him, but understand just because "he is seeking help" doesn't mean he's healed. If he is/was seeking help and was getting counceling or going to group sessions for his addiction or abusiveness, then part of that help would be that he needs to be single and not commited through at least the first year of his recovery.
despite what he may say, he's not better until he's done with the help.... going back to him when he's "looking for help" or "getting help" won't be good for him or you.
Thank you for adding women to that equation... I have used violence in arguements within a relationship... I abhor violence and I hate myself when I can't control it, but I can only be put down, pushed, and told what I can and can't do so many times... Erin- trust me, that kind of life is no life. The stress of my mildly abusive on both sides relationship has me at a boiling point often, especially when I tweak I can barely hold in my irritation- it bums me out because evreyone knows things aren't supposed to be that way, and once that stuff happens, it taints your relationship. You never forget it. My boyfriend and I are both jealous as well- I can't just go visit my friends (male or female) without a fight. I used to not even want him to get rides to or from work from girls...
If I hadn't have found this forum, I might have been meeker a lot longer... I kind of got on here, got lost in another world, and remained at my computer desk staunchily even when he hated it...
It's hard not having trust for someone else, but being distrusted sucks too.
My boyfriend has never hurt me physically, but he's sure pissed me off. I've hurt him much worse...because I'm giving it my all trying to fuck him up and he's just trying to hold me down... but his mouth ismeanandthestuff he accusesme of isfucked... I do the same thing to him... We don't fight over drugs, we aren't tortured by that issue, just each other.
Lord, help us all.
Thanks guys, Manda's holding in the breakdown. "And I'm about to break..."
Pinkavvy -- THANKS :) great insight and wisdom! Makes sense... so, that settles that i suppose...that was easy. haha. ;) SO glad I came here!! You guys are GREAT. You're right... if he's this way now, he'll probably be worse while quitting, and he DOES need some serious therapy... a year. wow. I haven't even brought up the sexual issues.. he may need two years, Hahaha. Well, I deserve better and can't be on the other end of his b.s. any longer.
Manda, you're too funny with the matchmaking:)
So, what's good in your relationship? Sounds a bit rough... love shouldn't be a vicious war, right? No one deserves to be mistreated andput downin a relationship.. you live with him? what keeps you there?
Erin, thank you for asking me that question, I am not sure how to answer. Let me assure you I have had my own place for a long time, he moved in to stay with me. I have money in the bank saved up for a vehicle, and I have just started a vocational rehabilitation program. I went yesterday, and I go back in aweek. The first homework I've been given is reading the driver's book... I'm 28 but had 2 DUII's so I lost my license for 3 years. I am excited because they provide on-the-job training and the like. I am trying to become a better person. If we broke up, I wouldmiss the income we get from him working, but by no means would be destitute. My parents live near and watch out for me very well, fortunaetly.
I guess because he's stuck by me thick and thin... and that means a lot to me.
Manda - 2 DUI's must be rough, but sounds like you will survive, and good for you for aiming up too!relationships can be tricky huh? you will decide what's best for you, either way.. sometimes I think we put up with negatives we shouldn't be putting up with because there's some other need being fulfilled.. but when the negatives are really detrimental, that's when we need to take a good look and ask if you really deserve that... Soooo much easier to give advice!!
What you said makes perfect sense until I have to live it.
yes I know. trustme, I've been there, and still am. it ain't easy.. it was really freaking hard for me to walk away from my b/f, even though I was not being treated the way I wanted and needed, as I still cared and loved him, there were good things too, he has some sweetness to him, and all that crap. I think about those good things and that's what screws with my head. then I remember him screaming at me for a half hour& calling me a cunt, and it cures me for the time being..
sorry, just realized maybe i shouldn't be swearing on here and using words like i just used..not a nicename to be called at that.
<blockquote> Originally posted by coldaslife on 27 July 2004
what are some good ways to effectively kick this shitty habit? i dont want to do it again, and i need to do some things that help destroy the addiction. <hr></blockquote><hr>
Well ya know, it's funny for me. A couple weeks ago I realized that coke was all I cared about... period, nothing meant anything to me but coke, and I didn't have the money to keep buying it in quantity. Sent me into a suicidal depression, but I checked myself (voluntary) into a "dual diagnosis" program instead of offing myself. A treatment center is probably what I really need, but can't afford it and most won't take me cuz I'm on klonopin.
I recommend an antidepressant that will help replace the neurotransmitters the cola has depleted. Wellbutrin seems to work pretty well for me, it's one of the few that hit dopamine and norepinephrine... it's an upper, & it's made me feel better without a doubt.
Zach Swan
09-08-2004, 05:46
<BLOCKQUOTE> Originally posted by coldaslife on 27 July 2004
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what are some good ways to effectively kick this shitty habit? i dont want to do it again, and i need to do some things that help destroy the addiction.
i know excercise is good, but what else? eat alot, drink alot? do positive things? ive been studying this stuff all morning but this seems like a knowledgeable board so i though id shoot the question here for real answers. also, it only stays in your system for 2 days, right? so that means after those 2 days im not physically addicted to the drug, just mentally? i know these are horrible newbie questions but im not much of a drug user, and i want coke outta my life.
one more question, is it alright to smoke weed while recovering from cocaine, or is it a bad idea? i enjoy weed very much. also, i am planning on trying shrooms soon so should i wait a little bit? i did coke last night but i never want it again.
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The girl is a very tough friend to get rid of - sounds like you've found that out. Sometimes she's the only one you can truly count on. In any case, although it sounds cliché, you are one huge step along the way since you really seem to want to stop -- that or you're feeling depressed after coming off a binge. The trick will be remembering that feeling of wanting to get away from it all. It is very easy to disregard the bad and only remember the pharma-induced euphoric escape, when that itch sets in.
Str8 hit on the most important point -- you HAVE to get away from the scene. That is really important, and a very difficult thing to do. You may still be at the stage where you're hangin out with friends, clubbing, etc which is hard to give up. Find something else to do. If you've progressed to the stage where you just want to score your eight-ball, hole up in your apartment, and get high by yourself, you can still escape from the scene, but it is WAY harder. Just quit watching scarface, throw out the mirror and paraphenalia, and no more googling "cocaine" ;-) because your attention span is so screwed you can't pay attention to the movie you've been trying to watch.
Next, face the fact that if you want to stop, VERY few people can go from the point where they feel addicted to where it was "in the old days" when they could put the baggy away on Sunday morning and not touch it again until the next week or later. If you use again, odds are you will start binging (like many of us.)
W.r.t. part two of your query, there are differing opinions on whether or not it is wise to use other pharmaceuticals/intoxicants after or to assist in the process of quitting. The various "programs" say no -- you can't use any mind altering substance. Whatever -- I'm sure their wisdom is based on lots of experience. Notwithstanding that, with blow, you may find that just about anything that can distract you from wanting to get on the train, long enough to not need to, may help. Who knows? You may end up with an addiction of another kind, but a "guy I know" stopped successfully by tripping on ecstasy for a while instead of white (that uhmm idiot eventually got back on the rail by choice). Heeven succeeded in busting away a second time, by distracting himself with some oxy (very addictive, so likely not the ideal choice.) If ganja works for you, give it a try. Or get real help, if you need it.
The best thing, is that if you can make it clean for a couple of weeks, you may be amazed at how great you feel. Again, I don't know all of your circumstances, but many feel a huge energy boost. Clarity of mind. And you can breathe well for the first time in a long time. This is the most dangerous time, because you think you can indulge again "just this one time."
Good luck, y sorry for the long winded post.
PS: caveat on the antidepressants as a cure for addiction. Obviously listen to your doc when it comes to treating depression, but be cautious of the following: I know a guy who discovered that anti-depressants helped "balance" him. The unintended result was that the post-consumption crash was less severe, and he ended up using harder than before he started the scrip.
mastershake1
09-09-2004, 04:23
I've expiermented with coke three times......and i must say it fucked me over royally not only did it mess me up for a few days but it also caused me to lose my gf of 5 in a half yrs......i was the same way when i was on coke i was really rude to her all i cared about was doing my coke....i made her cry she hung up and showed up at my place and walked in on me snortin a line......she lost all the respect in the world for me.....and i lost all the respect in the world for myself too.......i had no probelm stoping......i dont crave it and i never wannaa do it again. my ex thinks otherwise and this all started with my bestfriend he just started using the coke and lured me in so i made a tough decision and decided to move to canada my flight leaves tomorrow morning.....cokecaused all of this.
Hi my boyfriend has admitted a cocaine habit and wants to kick it, the only problem is that he doesn't want anyone to know which means I have to deal with it on my own.
He asked me to help but i'm not sure how to. He was doing the lying thing but he wasn't mean to me. I don't think it got that bad butI would like some advice if anyone can give it.
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