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Alfa
06-06-2006, 00:51
Please post your morphine experiences here.

Fantasian
06-06-2006, 00:53
The following is an exert taken from SWIFantasian's Journal

Morphine

My strongest experience that i remember lies here with morphine. A strong agonist opiate present in the opium poppy. Given as one of a few final options to treat severe pain.
Natural opiate

Onset Oral - 30minutes - 1 hour
Peak Oral - 5 hours
Comedown Oral - 1 hour
Total duration Oral - 7 hours

Onset IV - Immediate
Peak IV - 4 hours
Comedown IV - 30 minutes
Total duration IV - 4 hours 30 minutes

Onset IM - 10 minutes
Peak IM - 5 hours
Comedown IM - 1 hour
Total duration IM - 6hours 10 minutes

Oral dosages:

5mg - An effect similar to that of 100mg of codeine, with all the same effects, sedation and euphoria however seem cleaner somehow. a slight hangover the next day but nothing severe

10mg - Strong opiate effects, euphoria felt, strong sedation with a difficulty to move around without aid. Urinary retention present at this dosage making urination impossible for 24 hours. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 1 days of feeling sick, tired and rough. However post usage problems are copable.

20mg - Intense opiate effects - Euphoria significant, very strong sedation and strong nausea. Urinary retention and constapation relatively severe. A very relaxed yet intense feeling. Moving is neigh on impossible due to degree of sedation and dizziness when standing. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough Similar to that if flu.

25 mg - Same as above with more pronounced nausea, to some degree i feel like a ceiling effect has been reached again. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough however at 25 mg this is more pronounced but doesnt last longer.

IM dosages:

10mg - Similar to that of oral dosages except a much faster onset of 10 minutes and more sedation was felt however this may be due to setting.

IV dosagesnausea wasnt present in IV dosages due to the co-administration of an anti-emetic like cyclizine or buccastem)

2mg - A slight rush for a hundreth of a second felt but no after effects or sedation or euphoria.

10mg - Significant euphoria and sedation similar to that of 10mg orally however the feeling seems much more sedative. There is a pleasant rush on administration that in the future i will grow to crave. This is one of the most pleasant yet dangerous highs i've ever experience and lead to my entrance to the drug world.

20mg - Very intense rush, possibly due to the nurse who administered it's lack of experience. Sedative effect significant euphoria significant however SWIM does note at this time that the effects are too intense for an enjoyable experience. It feels less like he's got into a euphoria boat and more like he's been hit by a euphoria bus.


On a side note SWIM has also experience pethadine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone and diamorphine however he isnt satisfied with his reports for them to be considered accurate at this point.

Alfa
05-08-2006, 18:05
More experiences are welcome!

Forthesevenlakes
06-08-2006, 00:35
swim will share an experience from last new years. he insufflated 30 mg of morphine from a crushed ms contin pill around 6 pm. within about 10 minutes he had a mild euphoria and felt more talkative than normal, and this was accompanied by a feeling of heaviness or rather, that the earth's gravity was pulling harder on him than it normally does. he often gets this feeling from certain opiates, notably morphine, codeine, and hydrocodone. he was enjoying talking with his friends about the evening's plans, and was also content to watch a bit of television with them, ordinarily swim hates television, but they had a great time making fun of the commercials and discussing the program that was on.

at around 9 pm, swim and friends decided to go to some parties, and swim chewed and swallowed another 60 mg of morphine. swim has a high tolerance, so he knew that this was within his limits, but does not reccomend such high doses for people new to opiates. swim was not drinking, but felt a great love and empathy with people who were, and definitely felt like all the people with him at the party were on the same level as he was. he found it was effortless to make jokes that anyone present could enjoy, and ended up having a couple of profound and important conversations which strengthened his friendships with a couple of people. during this time, he continued to have a feeling of heaviness, and would sit down whenever possible. it wasnt particularly bothersome to continue standing, but he simply preferred to sit.

the oral morphine effects continued with strength until about 1 am. swim was smoking more cigarettes than usual, which is something he notices happens often on opiates. he also found himself often reflecting on his current life situation; and kept reiterating to himself that he had some of the best friends anyone could ask for, which is a statement he truly believes while sober. during this experience it seemed particularly pronounced, however. the high during this time was at no point overwhelming, but subtle and almost in the background, in that while he was very happy and sociable, he did not think about how high he was. in fact, he felt almost sober and in control of his faculties, but simply in a very amazing mood. the happiness and introspection he was having reminded him of the feeling of MDMA, but not as powerful as MDMA, in that people unaware that he had taken morphine did not believe he had taken anything until he told them about the ms contin. the effects began to subside around 2 am, but he was still talkative after this time and did not suffer depression or annoyance upon the comedown.

so, the total dosage was 90 mg (careful about taking this if not experienced with opiates), the duration was around 8 hours from time of first ingestion, with redosing around the 3 hour mark. the comedown lasted around an hour and was very mild. swim found the morphine enjoyable in a social setting, and did not impair his judgment, and he was able to think quite clearly on it and came to some realizations about how great his friends are, which carried on into sobriety after that.

although the experience was fun, swim must caution that morphine is potentially a dangerous drug with a low safety margin, and that tolerance and addiction are a very real threat with this substance, in part because it is easy to carry on with normal activities and socialize while under its influence.

DrMuffy
17-09-2006, 02:22
SWIM has tried rectal administration several times. The onset lasts for about 45 min., and then SWIP hit the plateau, and it was almost better the IVing it. SWIM always takes his morphine this way because: 1 of the low bioavailibity when it comes to oral. 2 He hates needles and he cant even find a vein. 3 You waste almost as much morphine by snorting it than oral.

Forthesevenlakes
17-09-2006, 02:50
actually, snorting it does have slightly better bioavailability, but as swiy's post in the bioavailability thread says (and swiy's report confirms!) rectal is more efficient. maybe swiy should contemplate writing a thread on how to do proper rectal administration of opiates so that other members can learn how to do so safely?

DrMuffy
17-09-2006, 03:13
actually, snorting it does have slightly better bioavailability, but as swiy's post in the bioavailability thread says (and swiy's report confirms!) rectal is more efficient. maybe swiy should contemplate writing a thread on how to do proper rectal administration of opiates so that other members can learn how to do so safely?

Good idea, im gonna start writing it now

Forthesevenlakes
17-09-2006, 03:17
Thank you! Please post it in the general opiates forum, and when I start doing the "opiate basics" thread I will include it there.

cchad76
08-11-2006, 18:38
well this is how is went for SWIM using morphine sulfate D 30mg

15mg inssuflated...waited 5mins, then inssuflated 15mg in other nostril...head/nose kinda hurts feels stuffy
10mins and still nothing...so SWIM decides to take 15mg more, then 15mg more
20min later SWIM feels a little bit of a body high, barley noticeable. nose still hurts
SWIM decides to go smoke a bowl of some ak47 since this will do more then
this morphine bs
perhaps SWIM will have to try it rectally...

cchad76
08-11-2006, 20:33
2hours later SWIM is feeling the efects and is enjoying them...mild to medium head and body high, very relaxing, no pain whatsoever,

Prof.Gonzo
15-11-2006, 07:35
SWIM recently got his hands on some 30mg instand release morphine sulphate tabs. SWIM read that the bioavailability when used orally is really poor so SWIM planed to insufflate them.
By the way SWIM got some opiate tolerance from using codeine a lot.

SWIM crushed one with a glas and seperated the powder in 3 equal parts as SWIM has also read that 10mg I.V. some sort of standard dose for really hard pain.

A few minutes after SWIM snorted one of the parts SWIM got quite talkative and feelt something smoothly going on. As that didn't seem enough SWIM insufflated another third making it 20mg.

Almost instantly there was this intense warm feeling rushing through SWIMs body, everything seemed just wonderfull and SWIM was constantly grinning and feeling happy, really happy. SWIM never feelt that comfortable.
SWIM was watching a horror movie at that time, but instead of being scared or somehow spooked, he only admired the movie in general and especially how adorable the vampires were.

After about 2 hours the happieness seemed to fade away, so SWIM took the last third of the first tab. This intense feeling returned immediately. Thats when SWIM completely lost the feeling of time, so I can't tell you when SWIM decided to crush to other pill.

This time SWIM divided the powder only in two parts, taking one of them instantly. SWIM got really wasted - in the good way - feeling as high as he never have been just being seemed so wonderfull. SWIM feelt like a mixture of having smoked a lot of pot and at the same time the euphoria from xtc.

Just before going to bed SWIM snorted the remaining powder. By the way SWIM stayed at his friends appartment and his "bed" was a sleeping bag on the naked and hard floor. But SWIM feelt as comfortable as he would be lying in a 1st class bed - like sleeping on heavenly clouds.

A thing that was quite odd SWIM couldn't remember falling at sleep at all. It was like dreaming while awake, seeing pictures just like a movie, but SWIM could open his eyes anytime he wanted - after closing them the dream was continiuing where it stopped.

Although SWIM couldn't remember having just a minute of sleep, the next day there were no hangover or any tiredness.

Morphine made SWIM certainly feel as good as he never felt before, but at the same time he realised why it's so addictive. SWIM really had to practically restrain himself to not get some more pills - for several days. It's not that you get addicted the first time you use it, it just feels so great you want to have it anytime anywhere.

genaro
01-03-2007, 12:00
set & settings: was a teenager, had never had any drugs yet (not even marijuana), at the hospital in emergency to be operated, 2 finger tips looking just as marmelade (more like a half peeled banana to be exact), not sure these would ever look as they used to be ever again, very anxious, very painful to my fingers, shocked, , doesn't like the idea of getting hacked about with scalpels, how could I have smashed up my body in such a bad way, so stupid, feeling so bad about what's happening to me, slightly out of it at the same time because had lost quite some blood.

route of administration: morphine injected i.v. (left arm vein)

onset: within a few 5-6 seconds at most

effect: 3-4 seconds after injection I feel a strange taste in my mouth (very slightly nauseating chemical taste, already pleasurable taste) and a warm vibe spreading in my all body, thta's quite nice, immediatly released my anxiety completely, didn't care about my finger tips anymore, pain has disappeared, almost happy about beeing here on the operating table, I know there's something quite wrong but well I'm into a quite pleasurable sensation right now, "don't worry man things are just fine" I thought, great feeling of well beeing.
Then general anaesthesia (2 minute later) so cannot tell how was the rest of the trip (as I waked up from the anaesthesia on the next day).

conclusion: the come up and the two next minutes (which is all I could experience before falling asleep from the following anaesthesia) was extremely pleasurable (especially if we consider the bad state of mind I was in just before beein injected). I'm glad about this experience as I just never inject drugs, so that was the one and only i.v. experience to me, and it felt quite nice (well to be honnest, that was more than "nice", that was just a peaceful and relaxed complete well beeing to the body and mind).
No doubt morpphine injected i.v. can make you quite addicted within a few trials (couldn't say how much, but pretty fast that's fopr sure) cause it just feels really good.


well, I was back in the hospital years later (bad cut, very deep) and had a second i.v. experience (last one), but this time they wouldn't tell me what I was injected, not sure about it, not general anaethesia this time so I could enjoy the all trip, was feeling so good and so fucked up that I found myself asking "what is this marvelous drug?", smiling to one of the surgeons in the middle of the operation (which she didn't seem to appreciate much so she didn't answered my 'innocent' question).
This was a creazy one, could have been morphine mixed with something else (such as ghb maybe) cause I was completly out of it, the happiness and well beeing of morphine plus the "out of it" feeling of a strong anaesthetic, that was like "wow that's so good mgrrmffrr", almost delirious from the effect, meaning a true waked dream, yeah that's it, I was awake, more or less conscious of what was happening around me but I was dreaming at the same time, completely in my warm body sensations, allowing my mind to flow in complete euphoria into a completely confused and drunkish moment...blissful experience!
...so when they say, "do you want a general anaesthesia?", meaning that it's not absolutely necessary, just say "no, but that hurts a lot" and you'll get the tremendous "Dr Feel GOOd" special cocktail!

augentier
19-05-2007, 17:13
Ok, so SWIM tried a little morphine for the first time just for kicks..low dose, nothing special..but here's an account of it anyway:


12:30 am : SWIM took one 30 mg grey pill on a fairly empty stomach. She had smoked good bud with a friend at around 11:30, and figured she'd be close to sobered up by the time the morphine kicked in.


1:30 am : SWIM started to itch quite a bit, she was also getting tired and bored with the computer so she went to lie down and watch TV.


2:00 am : She wasn't feeling the euphoria she was expecting, but then again it was only 30 mg. However, she did feel extremely cozy and content with just laying down. She had no interest in watching TV anymore so she turned it off and closed her eyes. Resting felt great, she was warm and comfortable and she remembers smiling for apparently no reason as she drifted off. SWIM supposes this was a very *mild* sense of euphoria she was looking for.


5:45 am : Yeah..next thing she knew, she woke up at this time. She said it was literally like closing her eyes and opening them only to find a few hours had passed. She didn't realize she had fallen asleep. It was a very dreamless sleep. She got up to walk around and was surprised to find that her vision was really weird..her head didn't feel right, but it was not an uncomfortable feeling..hard to describe, kinda like her head and vision was "floaty" and "swimmy". Went back to bed, because laying down felt the best.


8:00 am : Woke up again, vision and head still feeling the same. Laying down still felt good, so she went back to bed.


10:50 am : Woke up AGAIN..and she is still awake, and still having weird head feelings...again, it's not unpleasant, just very strange to her, and her vision is unfocused but not hard to deal with.



Yeah, that's it. Nothing special but the lazy cozy feeling was great, it made sleeping a blast :P Also, SWIM experienced no nausea (maybe because of smoking beforehand?). However, she woke up with a bad headache and is still itching. For clarification..the strange floaty head feeling seems to stay separate from the headache..SWIM can feel both at the same time if that makes sense.

Skeetastic
06-06-2007, 15:22
SWIM is one of those who is afraid of injections, so he sticks to snorting drugs like Morphine. SWIM went through a hefty Morphine phase where he did at least 240mg over a short period of a month or so, and most of the experiences weren't too wonderful. Then again, the dosages were limited to 30mg crushed and inhaled at each time. After a short while of laying on SWIM's bed, the effects became somewhat noticeable. The slight dizziness, stumbling, random, incoherent thoughts, and inability to fully function in normal society. After taking this all in, SWIM then had to go watch a movie with his parents in the living room. This movie was
a) boring
b) SWIM doesn't really remember it
c) LOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGG!
Then, finally, SWIM headed off to bed to sleep off what was left of his buzz.

merc11292
27-07-2007, 04:07
swim recently tried morphine, first time ever. swim had 1 30mg CR pill said abg on 1 side and 30 on the other. swim bit in half and took 1 half but dint chew it hoping because of lack of tolerance 30 mins later small buzz, barely anything, took other half, about 45 mins later decent buzz but never really any peak, swim dint like it to much left swim feeling kinda sick. Is 30 mg CR alot or alittle? should swim have taken like 60?

Rio Fantastic
28-07-2007, 21:55
swim recently tried morphine, first time ever. swim had 1 30mg CR pill said abg on 1 side and 30 on the other. swim bit in half and took 1 half but dint chew it hoping because of lack of tolerance 30 mins later small buzz, barely anything, took other half, about 45 mins later decent buzz but never really any peak, swim dint like it to much left swim feeling kinda sick. Is 30 mg CR alot or alittle? should swim have taken like 60?

Was it a time release capsule? If so, you need to peel off the coating if you want to actually feel the pronounced effects of it.

merc11292
30-07-2007, 04:58
yea it was time release, does swim have to take the coating off to get the effect at all, or does taking it off just make it not time release thus leaving it on would give a longer high, but require more?

dark_delusion
23-08-2007, 22:40
Here is SWIMs first morphine experience which took place yesterday. BTW, SWIM is 5'11" and 125lbs.

5:30pm: Acquired 4 Morphine Sulfate 15mg pills.

6:00pm: After finding out 15mg is a safe dose for a first time, SWIM ingests his first pill with a glass of ice water. SWIM honestly doesn't know what to expect at this point. SWIM is a little nervous, since he's never done morphine, and has a relatively low opiate tolerance. The only other opiates he's had were opium, hydrocodone, and codeine. He had only smoked a little bit of opium mixed with cannabis once, and enjoyed it. The most hydrocodone he's taken in one day was 120mg, and that is after he'd been doing them for a while to develop a tolerance. The most codeine he's had at a time has been 120mg from a cough syrup.

The only opiates SWIM has had all summer were 30mg of hydrocodone 3 days ago, so his tolerance was pretty low he assumed, so he didn't know what to expect from 15mg of morphine.

6:30pm: SWIM traded a friend one of the pills for a gram of good cannabis. So SWIM has two pills left.

7:00pm: Exactly one hour after taking the first pill, SWIM expected he'd be feeling something. But nothing. His pain was still there, and he was feeling no traditional opiate effects. Looking in the mirror, he wasn't even experiencing miosis. All the other opiates SWIM has done, have kicked in by one hour, so SWIM thinks he didn't take enough, but decides to wait a little longer to see if it kicks in.

7:30pm: An hour and a half after taking the first pill SWIM was still not feeling any opiate effects. He had been smoking cannabis as well, since he always smokes cannabis with opiates as he finds the synergy between the two to be amazing. But, this time all he felt was the cannabis. Still no opiate. So he took another 15mg making it a total of 30mg of morphine sulfate consumed so far.

8:00pm: Feeling relaxed and tired from the cannabis SWIM has been smoking, but the only opiate effect he can feel is slight respiratory depression. Nothing else. None of his pain has gone away either. Looking in the mirror, his pupils are still pretty normal, only very slight miosis.

8:30-9:00pm:SWIM continues to smoke his cannabis, as it normally enhances opiate effects, but still just feels mainly stoned from the weed. Around 9 he notices he is experiencing moderate respiratory depression, and a slight feeling of butterflies in his stomach but nothing else. No traditional opiate high. He looks in the mirror and sees that he's finally experiencing miosis. His pupils are very small. This makes SWIM wonder if he is at his peak, or if the effects will get any stronger. He only has one pill left, so wonders if he should take it since he figures one won't be enough for another day. He just doesn't want to take too much and get too fucked up, but he at least wants to feel the effects. He decides to wait to see if the effects get any better, or taper down before taking his last pill.

9:20pm: SWIM smokes a bowl of cannabis and lays on his couch to watch TV. He realizes he is becoming high from the morphine. He is feeling the traditional opiate effects. Not as intense and overwhelming as his hydrocodone experiences, but it's just starting so he doesn't know if it will get better. He feels the traditional "warm and fuzzy" feeling and the "hug from within", etc...

9:45: SWIM is feeling nice, a mild opiate high, not as strong as he is used to with hydrocodone, but he heard morphine takes longer to kick in fully, and lasts longer, so he really doesn't know if he should take another pill, because he doesn't want to take it if he won't need to. He decides to watch TV and chill, and see if the effects increase.

10:00pm: SWIM feels like he can handle another pill, since the effects still have increased, although he is feeling nice. He takes another pill with a glass of water.

10:05pm: SWIM is still feeling nice from the first two pills, and his friend arrives. They each smoke a Djarum Black clove cigarette before smoking cannabis and talking. SWIM is in an extremely talkative mood. Similar to how he gets on cocaine. He was alert, not tired, just in a good talkative mood. I really wasn't paying attention to any of the effects I was feeling, I was just totally involved in the conversation I was having.

12:00am:SWIM noticed that he was feeling mildly fucked up. Like he gets from hydrocodone, but not nearly as intense. SWIM and his friend continue to talk.

1:00am: SWIMs friend left, so SWIM decided to go to bed, to enjoy the effects as he drifted off to sleep. SWIM noticed the traditional CEV/lucid dreaming, but quickly fell asleep. He woke up 12 hours later, without any ill effects such as wanting to vomit. SWIM is glad he played it safe last night ,as it was his first experience with morphine and did not know what to expect. SWIM now realizes he could probably have taken all 3 of the pills at once, and should have, to get the effect he desired. But all in all, SWIM had a nice evening.

Now that SWIM knows what to expect he plans on repeating the experiencing tonight, except taking 60mg all at once, in order to hopefully get a effect more similar to the intense hydrocodone highs.

mauhur
04-09-2007, 03:17
Was it a time release capsule? If so, you need to peel off the coating if you want to actually feel the pronounced effects of it.

How can SWIM do that?
Thank you

strikks
05-09-2007, 22:47
hello all i am new here but old to opiates i see all the people inquiring about IVing ms contin and i am very experienced in that field however i do not know if there is a way to take out all the harmful stuff out of these delicious babies but i have been prescribed them for a long time and i have found that the best brand name ms cntin to shoot is the ENDO brand they have no coating and my local walmart carries them however i do not know if the long term effects are killing me i have been doing it for over a year 500-600mgs daily anywho first get a big spoon and a cig filter or qtip and turn the stove burner on crush the pill and cook to a boil for 6 or 7 seconds then move the glob over and draw up through a filter u need alot of water so the biggest rig u can get is best 1cc is what i got anyway i repeat this 3 times then eat the glob with a cup of coffee i know it works 3 to 4 times better than orally injesting 4 times the amount i shoot as for the brand and other coated brands they are a bitch it is possible but they are way harder to do than the endos i would like to know about plugging these if anyone has questions or anything on plugging drop me a line i am gonna try plugging friday

beentheredonethatagain
06-09-2007, 00:44
Swib is a patient who is taking morphine sulfate contin, ms imediate release, and he has msir water soluable. the making a good high from any of these pills is not something that has ever happened to resident rat. He really was thinking when he first got pills that it was going to do a number on his head, but it never does anything except combat pain.

Fantasian
06-09-2007, 16:42
Swib is a patient who is taking morphine sulfate contin, ms imediate release, and he has msir water soluable. the making a good high from any of these pills is not something that has ever happened to resident rat. He really was thinking when he first got pills that it was going to do a number on his head, but it never does anything except combat pain.


SWIY probably has some kind of tolerance that has resulted in him eventually getting onto a pain killer like Morphine sulphate. An increased dose would probably give a more recreational experience however significant unpleasent side effects also increase with dosage. In SWIF's mind, it aint worth it.

imyourlittlebare
06-09-2007, 16:56
swim's first experience was with a patch. He was nieve and did not know when or what it would do. After many hours swim found that everything had slowed down. he threw up his dinner and was numb. Swim couldnt believe it. Swim recently got morphine sulfate which initially didnt feel great but after a few administerings nasally finally reached a good place.....only to find tolerance went through the roof. things got out of hand and swim currently resides usually with poppy tea in the morning and a kratom tea at night .

Fantasian
06-09-2007, 20:44
initially didnt feel great but after a few administerings nasally finally reached a good place.....only to find tolerance went through the roof. things got out of hand.


I think that statement alone shows why opiates are such a borderline game to play. There are so many pitfalls.

strikks
07-09-2007, 18:55
swim has been prescribed ms contin for 9 years and has been shooting 500-600mgs a day i am very concerned about swim's health because shootin them dar beauties is real bad for swim but if swim starts eating them he needs 3 times as much his pain doc is cool but i dunno how cool he would be after he is told that swim is bangin and has been for about a year or so i always firmly believe in telling the doctor the truth and being as honest as possible with them so you and he can adequatley treat yur pain but i am scared for swim's health and his skripts every month swim was told this advice.......... go to a couple other pain specialists this is technically not doctor shopping as long as you do not fill any skripts if they write you the same or better than your current doctor is then scedule your appt with the new doctor for your refill next month but tear the skript up go to your regularly scheduled appt. with your regular doc THEN tell him the truth about shooting and your tolerance and that you are scared for your health and want to quit but you need 3 times as much medication orally if he says yes blow off the other doctor if he says your shut off you have your new doctor to fall back on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE MORPHINE THE BETTER!!!!!!!

strikks
07-09-2007, 19:04
i am just learning how to do this computer thing forgive me anyway swim does have a huge tolerance unfortunatly cause swim's pain levels are thru the roof swim has trigeminal neuralgia from a tramua to the skull!!

beentheredonethatagain
08-09-2007, 15:58
strikks, your better off IMO to do the following.
First telling your dr. that swiy has been banging the meds he has prescribed to swiy is a sure fire way of getting on his bad side. ( no more prescriptions)
So the best thing is to stop injecting those meds in the arm and start to plug them into your booty. Since the viability is much better than the oral route.
That should allow you to wing down off the IV without too much discomfort.
The way I see it , it's the only choice. remember to remove the point off the syringe before going into the anal cavity

beentheredonethatagain
12-09-2007, 10:54
swib has water soluable morphine Imeditate release 15mg pills. they are tiny little tabs that look like artificial sweetern. swib has fired them before but not to fond of the feeling. tonite he crushed up 5 pills and snorted. It was a warm feeling starting right under his hair on his scalp. the line was smooth , without any burn. the warmth is now at his shoulder area and it has been only 2 minute since the line was consumed. he is starting to scratch his sweaty shoulders and is thinking a shower might feel real good.
swib's pain in his back is still there , caused by changing a flat tire yesterday.
the line is now draining and is going down his throat. it taste a little kinda good and its now tasting stronger . warmth is over the majority of his body, a nice calm feeling, but not much as far as euphoria. swib will now smoke a few hits of some mid grade pot, to kinda rid the taste in the back of his mouse. the buzz from the grass is just right, while he sits and types.
swib wonders about how much of the morphine would be required to get a nice shot from it, he has been orally tolerante to 200 + mgs daily , without ever feeling high from it. now it must be on, things are different and weird, like a 4th deminson with spelling now a chore. He looks at screen and he thinks the word he typed abouv chore looks like choir, now it looks like chord. little things like that have started to be noticed. aswell as the head starts talking, not aloud just thoughts in a monolouge . report is better than expected, nik no-one i know, was thinking it wasnt going to be notciable ecspecaily for a steamhours i meant steam-hourse, no its steam_horse.

be safe , swib is to bed to see what the rest factor is like

BakaBilly
05-10-2007, 17:30
SWIM has been in and out of the ER for the last 7 years with unexplained and unberable pain and nausea in the gut. Docs say IBS or IBD or both! But they dont know for sure.

Anyways most of these times swim was given Morhphine through IV and on several occasions SWIM had to stay in the hospital for a day or two with a morphine drip system. Its one of these experiences I will recall.

00:00 after about 2 hours in the ER in pain SWIM is finally given something for the pain..Morphine
00:20 the initial injection isnt felt at all. SWIM doesnt know the exact dosage but he ventures to guess about 3mgs
00:30 another injection of Morphine, 2mgs (total IV morphine 5mgs)
00:35 SWIM can feel the effects of the high, but pain is still in the 9s on the 1-10 scale
00:55 SWIM gets another injection. 2mgs SWIM feels it instantly(7mgs total). His body gets warm, the pain subsides a little more and everything slows down considerably
01:00 Pain is still in the 8s so the nurse goes to get another dose of Morphine. SWIM needs oxygen from tubes as his breathing has subsided greatly. SWIM still feels warm and even tho hes in great pain hes singing show tunes and making strange jokes at his own expense.
01:20 Nurse arrives with another dose..2mgs. This one feels better and SWIM can feel its effects in a more pronounced way. SWIM actually feels high. Pain is still in the 7s even after 9mgs of morphine. Euphoria is in the 10s.
01:45 The morphine hasnt worked on the pain enough to be sent home so SWIM is put into out patient and given a morphine drip system.
02:00 SWIM now has the ability to call upon 1mg of morphine every 8 minutes with the push of one little button. The pain has gone away completley but SWIM doesnt let on.
02:08 the first button press. SWIM cant really feel the 1mg going into his blood system right away. SWIM already feels fantastic from the first 9mgs. SWIM is in the hospital but the morphine has such an effect that he actually likes it there. SWIM itches a little and feels warm all over. SWIM is very talkative with the nurses and even daytime television isnt so bad.
2:30 SWIM has been given something for the itch via iv and has pressed the button a few times since the last note. SWIM feels fantabulous. No more itch. And everything is "ok". Morphine never makes swim feel like things are overly great or utterly depressing. Morphine makes swim think that everything is just "ok" like hes floating in mediocre land.
3:30 SWIM is trying not to doze off so he can press the button more but at this point SWIM has had at least 15mgs of morphine in a 3 hour period. Its very hard not to nod off. SWIM dreams while sleeping. Something he doesnt normally do, or remember. SWIMs dreams rock. QVC rocks! The nurse waking me up every 30 minutes ROCKS!

SWIM was there till the next morning all the while on the drip system. And everytime 8 minutes went by SWIM pressed the button. Between IV morphine and medical grade oxygen SWIM had a great time feeling great. The next day they took the drip system off and sent SWIM home. Maybe it was from the oxygen but SWIM had no hangover or withdrawl symptoms. SWIM has seen other experience reports that say nausea and headaches are common the next day after doing 10mgs or more. But SWIM has never felt crappy the next day, or day after that.

SWIM has gone through the above at least 3 times.

Now they skip the morphine altogether and inject SWIM with Dilaudid (hydromorphone) ever since SWIM has been introduced to Dilaudid he hasnt booked a stay at the hospital. The stuff usually works right away and works right. Which is a shame because damn them drip thingys are FUN!

Archenemy
09-10-2007, 17:24
SWIM had his first experience with morphine about 8months ago...
SWIM Had been using Oxycodone/Hydrocodone for a year and a half, but when SWIM used Morphine... SWIM loved it.
hehe, Sadly, SWIM was an idiot and crushed 2 100mg tablets and swallowed those, then folled that by railing 1 100mg tab. (I think SWIM was at school trying to impress the lady folk >_<) SWIM overdosed... tho SWIM cant say it wasent pleasurable ;-)
Ever since then, SWIM has had much more respect for Morphine, and Morphine has been good to SWIM.

BakaBilly
13-10-2007, 04:36
SWIM had his first experience with morphine about 8months ago...
SWIM Had been using Oxycodone/Hydrocodone for a year and a half, but when SWIM used Morphine... SWIM loved it.
hehe, Sadly, SWIM was an idiot and crushed 2 100mg tablets and swallowed those, then folled that by railing 1 100mg tab. (I think SWIM was at school trying to impress the lady folk >_<) SWIM overdosed... tho SWIM cant say it wasent pleasurable ;-)
Ever since then, SWIM has had much more respect for Morphine, and Morphine has been good to SWIM.

holy smokes! SWIM is lucky that in pill for it seems to only yeild %30-40 bioavailability.

Someone get that swimmer some oxygen!

I just recently saw a new episode of "Weeds" where two guys have a friend who is in the hospital after a motorcycle wreck. They are so upset at seeing their friend this way that they search his hospital room for a clean needle to they can share some of his morphine on IV. hehe sorry...Just had to share that laugh,

SuzyQ
08-11-2007, 19:24
A couple of years ago SWim had her first legal drug experience of pleasure and sever pain. I went camping with some friends at one of the local dams and it was pouring all day and we were 7 souls trapped in a tiny tent. I ended up haveing to go to the local hospital fofr pneumonia for a week. Were the private hospital give their patients allthe good satuff and soon the givving my IV morfine four times a day. SWim was seriously tripping. The crap thing was the withdrawel I suffered when I was sent home after 7 days of free, and fantastic drugs.
SA rocks man

chronicpain247
26-12-2007, 08:25
well swim has been on morphine for chronic pain for about 8 months now, first 60mg brand name 2x per day, then 30mg MS contins 4x per day cause he switched insurance and new insurance wouldn't cover brand names. Swim has never really caught a buzz from morphine. He notices that it does help with the pain slightly and keeps him from going into WD's when all the good Breakthough meds are gone ,but never really got high. Swim has started reading a lot on this site and another really great forum, which I won't mention, and found out about the very low bio-avail of morphine Oral. Now swim has a very high tolerance, it takes about 100-120 mgs of oxycodone IR for him to feel great. So after reading that Morph has about half the Bio-avail of Oxy, swim has started to up the amount of morph he has been crushing up, putting in a shot class and downing with a bit of grapefruit juice. He recently has gone up to 120mg, then 150mg, them 180mg. That is about as high as swim feels comfortable going for safety reasons, even though his rational side tells him that you can't OD if you aren't high in the first place, he still is kinda scared to go above 180mg of morph IR. So after downing 180mg swim can only say that he has felt a slight bit more talkative and a very little euphoria. Swim is thinking of trying to plug some (anal admin) but will start off with a much smaller dose of course. Swim always hears of these people having these great experiences with morphine and he just can't see how that is, Swim guesses that these folks must have a much lower tolerance then he does. Swim does not use IV and does not want to start. Swim has read a few posts about people smoking OC and getting real nice, he was wondering if you could smoke MS contins and if anyone has any experience with this.

beentheredonethatagain
26-12-2007, 19:11
. He recently has gone up to 120mg, then 150mg, them 180mg. That is about as high as swim feels comfortable going for safety reasons, even though his rational side tells him that you can't OD if you aren't high in the first place,

I have never heard of not being able to OD if swiy is not high. In fact opiates like methadone will stay in your system long after the effect has left.

When drugs like Morphine kill a person it is because they shut your breathing down.

I was told by doctor that one minute a person could seem ok on morphine , then stop breathing.

chronicpain247
27-12-2007, 02:01
I was told by doctor that one minute a person could seem ok on morphine , then stop breathing.

yeah well, that's why swim just isn't comfortable going any higher that 180 mgs of MS contin IR. It just too scary, and although Swim has a high tolerance and likes to get nice, he isn't stupid.

Does anyone know about other admin methods, aside from any kind of needle methods, that may increase Bio-availability of MS contin?

JaWill88
27-12-2007, 02:47
The following is an exert taken from SWIFantasian's Journal

Morphine

My strongest experience that i remember lies here with morphine. A strong agonist opiate present in the opium poppy. Given as one of a few final options to treat severe pain.
Natural opiate

Onset Oral - 30minutes - 1 hour
Peak Oral - 5 hours
Comedown Oral - 1 hour
Total duration Oral - 7 hours

Onset IV - Immediate
Peak IV - 4 hours
Comedown IV - 30 minutes
Total duration IV - 4 hours 30 minutes

Onset IM - 10 minutes
Peak IM - 5 hours
Comedown IM - 1 hour
Total duration IM - 6hours 10 minutes

Oral dosages:

5mg - An effect similar to that of 100mg of codeine, with all the same effects, sedation and euphoria however seem cleaner somehow. a slight hangover the next day but nothing severe

10mg - Strong opiate effects, euphoria felt, strong sedation with a difficulty to move around without aid. Urinary retention present at this dosage making urination impossible for 24 hours. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 1 days of feeling sick, tired and rough. However post usage problems are copable.

20mg - Intense opiate effects - Euphoria significant, very strong sedation and strong nausea. Urinary retention and constapation relatively severe. A very relaxed yet intense feeling. Moving is neigh on impossible due to degree of sedation and dizziness when standing. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough Similar to that if flu.

25 mg - Same as above with more pronounced nausea, to some degree i feel like a ceiling effect has been reached again. Post usage withdrawal/illness is present for 3 days of feeling sick, tired and rough however at 25 mg this is more pronounced but doesnt last longer.

IM dosages:

10mg - Similar to that of oral dosages except a much faster onset of 10 minutes and more sedation was felt however this may be due to setting.

IV dosagesnausea wasnt present in IV dosages due to the co-administration of an anti-emetic like cyclizine or buccastem)

2mg - A slight rush for a hundreth of a second felt but no after effects or sedation or euphoria.

10mg - Significant euphoria and sedation similar to that of 10mg orally however the feeling seems much more sedative. There is a pleasant rush on administration that in the future i will grow to crave. This is one of the most pleasant yet dangerous highs i've ever experience and lead to my entrance to the drug world.

20mg - Very intense rush, possibly due to the nurse who administered it's lack of experience. Sedative effect significant euphoria significant however SWIM does note at this time that the effects are too intense for an enjoyable experience. It feels less like he's got into a euphoria boat and more like he's been hit by a euphoria bus.


On a side note SWIM has also experience pethadine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone and diamorphine however he isnt satisfied with his reports for them to be considered accurate at this point.



withdrawal doesn't come from one dose of any opioid. withdrawal comes from a constant flow of opioids in the bloodstream from waking up till going to sleep every day for days, more like weeks. anyways swim has had some good times with morphine. not a good one for IV, it just really isn't that pleasant of a rush. diacetylmorphine (heroin) has an amazing rush. swim used to use around 75mg morphine and it is good. usually takes like 20 minutes to start to take effect when not much food in the stomach. more like 30 if eaten food recently. when it starts, swim starts to feel warm and cozy. he starts to feel kind of numb physically and mentally. he feels like he can do whatever and is content. contentness is the main effect swim likes about opioids. swims vision gets a little shaky and his legs feel kind of wobbly. its an amazing feeling but kind of hard to describe. unfortunatly it has been a long time since swim has felt any of this since he has been on suboxone for a year to this day. he got on it the day after christmas last year. funny thing is swim just dropped it like 7 days ago. definately felt some withdrawal but used a lot of clonazepam and alprazolam so that helped. but today (my 1 year anniversary) swims mom found 8mg laying around and swim ate it and swim feels good. when it wears off swim will keep going through the withdrawal till it is done! don't get physically hooked on these stupid things! moderation is the key.

Fantasian
05-01-2008, 13:06
withdrawal doesn't come from one dose of any opioid. withdrawal comes from a constant flow of opioids in the bloodstream from waking up till going to sleep every day for days, more like weeks. .

Agreed however there are unpleasant effects following the high as the body reestablishes it's basis, there is a dysphoria and sickness post opiate use, particularly with IV use. Thats all i was trying to highlight

chronicpain247
07-01-2008, 07:10
I just recently saw a new episode of "Weeds" where two guys have a friend who is in the hospital after a motorcycle wreck. They are so upset at seeing their friend this way that they search his hospital room for a clean needle to they can share some of his morphine on IV. hehe sorry...Just had to share that laugh,

Not to get too off topic but I saw that one too, that shit was hilarious!! I love that show!!

morpho
19-02-2008, 19:49
What is the best way for SWIM to take MS contin? has anybody used Chitosan?
SWIM is confused, oral? nasal? with food? without? Swim knows there are many posts but they all seem to be contradictory. How would SWIM use Chitosan?

Fantasian
20-02-2008, 14:19
What is the best way for SWIM to take MS contin? has anybody used Chitosan?
SWIM is confused, oral? nasal? with food? without? Swim knows there are many posts but they all seem to be contradictory.

There so contradictory because it depends on what SWIY is looking for, the experience SWIyou seeks dictates what type of administration is best.

Intranasal will be a stronger yet shorter lasting high where as oral will be longer lasting but not have the same peak effect. Without food again, absorbtion will be quicker giving a quicker onset of effects or with food a more delayed gradual onset. Not sure what Chitosan is sorry except for the bandages that use chitosan to clot blood which i certainly hope your not eating. :)

Regardless of your route of administration if your taking MS contin for recreation you'll need to grind the tablet/capsule into a fine powder as it's currently made for time release which you wont want.

beentheredonethatagain
21-02-2008, 07:55
had a two year run , with a note from the dealer in a white lab coat.
He and I were tight , so tight that I placed time each month usually every 28 days to visit him at the office .

I made a point to look and act nice and with some class, he like would carry a pad upon it he scribled in a language foreign , but somehow it was clear .

year after year I walk in and said a few pleasant "how's the kids" " sure is a nice day" " doing better here" thanks doc.

not more tha 11 minutes and down the elevator to a sweet little shop, really a dream in the world of a major thinker, some for everyone. Young to the elder found a nut to fit their screw.

I would leave there with these bottles , sounding like candies rattling in the
box. Must enjoy one or three now so to be not rattled on the drive home.

I thought beenthere is a lucky guy, he is smarter and very on top of the game. Not a looser , unlike so many of his peers.

I now sleep in on most daze, or not sleep and just daze. you know my friends get on my nerves, ez ole me , Just if they would be more like me.

So many now have the gull to bother me with trivial stuff, whist i get direction from the Big Guy above. Don't cha know.

oh, yeah running low , it is not best thing to have fun doing, no . i said it before , I get the withdraw long before running out. oh its not a wicked sickness , just a mind game. this to let me in on what not to let open its black side.

probaly should just take it in stride, after all being chained to the big pharamcy and the note pad guy is only for life or death.

because I would rather not count the pills to the days left in a month , heavy eyes, and a better than thou manner of dealing with decent people who tolerate the shit giving so freely by me, I weened off slowly and in a matter of business like drive, Poor ole beenthere has now severed his ties to a life long scribbler of permission slips.

november 20 hell openned its drab and colorless home to celebrate with me, for all of two weeks we got to hear the good ole cries of withdraw.

Why did the smart guy now have to taste the dumb poisonless life ? after all he could get some of those bottles rattling like a cobra.

beenthere has learned one or two lessons , never become smarter than the people who like you , and being smarter in most cases shows how dumb you really are to those same peers who sit back and chill.

Beenthere almost wasted all of his time left in this life, being a man of skills with the handling of the man in the lab coat and his pals, really costed more than I could have figured on spending for a pocket and body filled with candies.

I would ask anyone who is like beenthere today , Will this be the end to you too? Luv and Hugs btdta opiate free!

morpho
21-02-2008, 20:20
thankz, Swim does grind and snort, on an empty stomach...I just read that taking morph with food increases bioavailability, or taking it with grapefruit juice. I am surprised that chitosan isnt more popular with morph users, it is a fat blocker/suppliment that is supposed to increase bioavailability 7X

Fantasian
24-02-2008, 11:41
thankz, Swim does grind and snort, on an empty stomach...I just read that taking morph with food increases bioavailability, or taking it with grapefruit juice. I am surprised that chitosan isnt more popular with morph users, it is a fat blocker/suppliment that is supposed to increase bioavailability 7X

Chitosan could very well work, I just dont know anything about it :). Grapefruit juice is suppose to inhibit some of the enzymes that breakdown morphine in the stomach but regardless if SWIF is snorting it none of that matters, even stomach content isnt important if it's all being insufflated anyway. It never gets to the stomach, it's all absorbed by the mucus membranes of the nose and straight to the bloodstream.

razorwiredildo
02-05-2008, 03:22
A few days ago swim had his most intense morphine experience. before then he had done morphine quite a few times, but he had never gone "balls to the wall" with it before. he started off with 45mgs morphine sulfate ir oral.......nothing new. about an hour later, swims friend came over with his bottle of morphine, he has a prescription. swim took another one and then drank a little wine. probably about 1-2 glasses worth. about 20 minutes later, swim swallowed another morphine bringing the total to 75mgs about 20 minutes after that swim snorted about 15 more mgs. total intake 90mgs. swim considered taking another, but is glad now that he didnt. swim attempted to have sex with his girlfriend but could only keep his dick up for about 30 seconds at a time and the entire time he was trying to fuck he was going back and forth between nodding and being awake. he gave up on fucking and just talked. once again, he was haveing trouble not nodding off. sometimes he would start to nod and then say things that he had dreamed in his nod, then he would come to and wonder what the fuck he just said. His gf said he was scaring her, but swim felt great. He went to sleep pretty soon afterwards feeling wonderful. While it was awesome, swim is glad he didnt take a 7th pill, things might not have been so great if he had.

y0ssarianlives
06-06-2008, 21:05
SWIM was dependent on morphine for many months before seeking refuge at a methadone maintenance clinic. SWIM used to receive 60mg extended release morphine capsules and crush those suckers up, mix with cold water, filter, and IV.

First off, SWIM gets an amazing rush within the first 10 seconds. It is not overpowering or as euphoric as SWIM suspects heroin is (SWIM has never had the chance to try H) but it feels as if SWIY's entire body is suddenly warm, fuzzy, euphoric, like the moment right after the main brunt of an orgasm, and SWIY becomes totally calm and warm. This feeling tapers off around 30 seconds and SWIY are left with a noticeable yet not overwhelming body high with very little energy as compared to oxycodone, and SWIM had the tendency to become quite irritable. This feeling remains for a couple of hours then lowers to even less of a noticeable effect then around 4 hours later SWIM would begin going into withdrawal.

All in all SWIM enjoys this substance very much when compared to oxycodone; fent was always SWIM's favorite but morphine was the staple diet, the bread and butter per say and fent was more the occasional ice cream sunday. It gives SWIM a decent rush, settles into a pleasant body high with irritability, tapers off into withdrawals after about 4 hours.

An overall nice substance.

IHrtHalucingens
17-07-2008, 15:02
SWIM has a funny morphine experience, his friends mom snorted 15 mg of morphine sulphate in the early evening (~6) and by 11pm she was basically sleep walking around the house opening every door and cabinet in the house, when SWIM and his friend walked up to her to see if she was ok she stared right through us blankly and continued on with her business. This was hilarious to SWIM, really goes to show how stron this stuff can be and that the confusion and borderline hallucinations possible with this substance.

pixplzthx
22-07-2008, 05:27
The kid around the corner relates to me a rather interesting story that occurred early on in the quest for an opiate that actually worked:


In short: Morphine didn't work wellfor me. Even at doses above 120 mg (orally). Once out of frustration (the pain was peaking) 90 mg was inhaled. In retrospect this may not've been very smart but desperation to eliminate the pain overrode rational thought. A few minutes had passed and suddenly wellness had been attained. Unfortunately, a few minutes later a rapid form of ataxia overwhelmed my senses. Walking, hand movement and most motor skills were out the window. Luckily, breathing felt normal. This continued for twenty minutes at most. Then, as quickly as the effects came, they left. For the next two hours though, no significant pain was felt.

Shortly there after, TKATC took the remaining pills to the doctor and asked for something "better". Oddly enough, 2 * 10 mg hydrocodone was more effective for the situation.

It is definitely amazing how different everyone's chemical make-up is.

reduceNreact
29-08-2008, 04:37
swim got its hands on 50 30Mg IR morphine sulfate tabs. what's the better way of administrating them? snorting or oral? seems oral wastes them sense only 25% bio availability that way and 75 % snorting them, is swim right? and whats a good dosage?

Housefan
16-09-2008, 21:43
My first swim post, I hope I do this right. SWIM has been on 30mg ms contin twice a day for 5 years and never feels anything from it. SWIM has alot of pain. SWIM also takes 2 4mg dilaudid a day and feels that and likes that much better. SWIM must be immune to MScontin. SWIM's dr says 1 10mg Vicodin is like 1 4mg Dilaudid . SWIM is using a nailfile to scrape off mauroon stuff on mscontin to see if taking it any other way than swallowing will help SWIM'S pain

Buncubis
16-09-2008, 22:06
Last Christmas Sin got his hands on 200mg morphine pills, and for only 20$. That is incredible I believe 200mg is the strongest made. Sin ended up getting 30 of these, and broke them into 4ths it would be suicide to eat a 200mg with no tolerance. What followed for sin was a two month binge in a dreamy hazy world. Worked overtime for the two months, feeling not a pain in the world even after 12 hours of hard work. A tolerance built pretty quick and Sin would take 100mg in the morning, and 100mg at night. When the supply ran out the dream world turned into 2weeks of living hell, and Sin almost lost his job for he was in no shape to work. The only thing that kept him from going to the hospital is the fact Sin has a Kratom vendor friend that lives a few miles from him, and the Kratom alleviated the withdraw symptoms it really is a miracle herb. Only now Sin uses kratom pretty regularly, but its not expensive, and helps get through the days of tedium.

Dickon
28-10-2008, 16:51
I'm writing the following song for the pan-galactic-spewage competition. What do you think of the lyrics so far?...

The day I discovered that I could walk into a high-street-chemist and come out with 20mg or if I was lucky 40mg morphine (anhydrous, so nearer the equivalent of 30mg or 60mg morphine sulphate) changed my life forever. I was at boarding school which I didn't much care for, it being all boys I was going for my play-at-being-gay mostly-unrequited love phase, and was an ecentric, highly intelligent, argumentative (only because I didn't get it!) nervy, pained type. Probably just like many other teanager, except although I was once categorized as educationally sub-normal (something I take great pride in) and failed the intelligence test to be even allowed to take the entrance exam to Eton (more known for upper-class-twittery than scholarship), I am now considered less-than-terminally-unintelligent, and by 18 I was starting to be recognized as such and considered some kind of weird "ecentric genius". I had already got a place at Oxford (I'd come 14th of 640 applicants for maths that year) and didn't need to do anything in the rest of my final year at school.

OK the first day I tried the morphine I drank one bottle, i.e. 20mg morphine(taste vile), effect nothing noticable. The next day I bought two bottles (40mg) and drank them. That was when I discovered the paradise of the opium eaters (the morphine in this stuff was described as residing in liquid extract of opium)). The effects came in two phases, an acute and a chronic one, and I think the first really euphoric phase was enhanced by the small amounts of alcohol and chloroform in this stuff. Usually I'd drink the first bottle in about 5 minutes, and the second would take a little longer. The one downside to this stuff was it tasted yucky. I'd sit (later I chose settings with trees or lakes if possible, but it really didn't matter where. A toilet would suffice), with a mounting head and body buzz, calm, indifferent (how I loved to quiet my overactive teenage sexuality), serene, warm; the world would resolve into a calm logical totality, and all worries would melt away. I had become reason embodied in a warm contented body. I'd sit and the corners of my mouth would turn up slightly and I felt I'd beat the system. That would last for 15-20 minutes, and then I'd feel a residual afterglow for several hours, and often after about 8 hours I'd be at my most sedated, and on some early occasions vomit, not unpleasantly. There was always a sadness after the initial half hour, and subsequently I'd get angry or irritable over the smallest-things. But this was a small price to pay. I used this stuff for over a year at doses of no more than 100mg (maybe once 120mg once 140mg), and it was a daily elixir of pleasure. I quit after a year or so of use with no real problems although I'd tried to earlier and couldn't. I was soon back again, and have always returned to it as my favourite opiate (far nicer than i.v. heroin in my opinion) if I didn't have tolerance. I could and did use at a 40mg dose for months if not years at a time without increasing. The problem with opiates is that while they're nothing but pleasure you're not going to quit, and the minute they bite you it's too late to quit easily. Well I ended up going to Berlin to try to do a PhD and bought enough of this stuff to do a 14 day detox. I didn't and then of course I picked up heroin, which I mainlined (I'd started injecting amphetamines at school). I then got on methadone, and came back to morphine again in the form of MST. To cut a long story short I've taken 4,500mg morphine sulphate in a day (2,500mg followed by 2,000mg of chewed MST 100 & 200s) and never felt anything much from it except a feeling of relief from w.d.s. I didn't understand then that 200mg methadone (my minimum daily dose at the time) equated to 4,000mg morphine in an oft-published morphine/methadone equianalgesic table.

Moral: you will enjoy 40mg infinitely more than 4,000mg. One final point: I have developed dependence on morphine when I used it orally only every other day, but only after my body knew what a habit was. Just a word of caution to addicts who quit and want to "chip" (use without developing a habit).

Dickon