Concerta & Ritalin experiences

[Sitbcknchill]

Please post your Concerta and Ritalin experiences here.

[robin_himself]

Swim his dose scale:
10-20 mg: A very low dose with slight effects, if one is not familiar with the effects its almost not noticeable.
20-30 mg: The effects are present but still not strong. On this dose its clear that the drug has been used.
30-40 mg: The effect are medium to strong and it starts to feel like amphetamine sulfate. This was for swim the best recreational dose. The side effects are getting noticeable (chewing, dilated pupils)
40-50 mg: This dose is a strong ritalin dose with full effects witch will last long, with this dose the side effects are also very noticeable. Especially the cotton mouth feeling.
50-60 mg: This dose is actually to high for recreation. The positive but also the negative effects are strong. But the problem with such a high dose is that it doesn’t add to the experience it rather prolongs it. This kind of dose will be rough on the heart.

All of these dosis where taken by means of insuflation. (assuming swim snorted once a night and no redoses)

The effects:
Low dose: effects are slightly noticeable. It works stimulating but not for to long, euphoria is also felt but on the background.
Medium dose: effects are present and feel very nice, stimulation and euphoria.
High dose: with a too high dose the effects are strong but the side effect are stronger. Dehydration and heart problems are risks.

Conclusion:
Swim experiences ritalin as one of the sweetest stimulants on the market. The euphoria and stimulation are nice and mild. You’re not in space but very well out there. But when one compares it to amphetamine sulphate it lacks in stimulation.

[Lehendakari]

As no one has ever posted an experience here before (wierd as I know many swims have some) I'll start by posting a totally made up story which I imagined this past saturday:

Note that the subject to which I refer as "I" doesn't exist.

" I finally got some ritalin pills, 10 mg, brand novartis. I've done a lot of research about stimulants and I finally decided to choose methylphenidate over speed, coke or meth for a number of reasons:

1. It's cheaper and easier to find
2. It doesn't come from some bastard's kitchen, garaje or bathroom.
3. It isn't a street drug, it comes in blisters and it looks like medicine you take for allergy, besides it is not known in my country so there is little chance to get busted.
4. It is softer than speed and meth and has easier comedown
5. I tried coke in the past and didn't like and it's fucking expensive

Anyway, I read a lot of confusing reports about it being recreational or not, being good for insufflation, being similar to coke.... So I didn't know what to expect.

Note that I'm/was ADHD and never took any drugs for it, just useless therapy.

I took 2 pills (20 mg) and crushed into fine powder, not as fine as I wished cause I did it quick and with no good tools. It is amazing though how much powder you get from 2 pills.

00:30 I start blowing the stuff, 4 lines with breaks between them (a couple of minutes) I'm regular mj smoker and I'd smoked 4 hours before. Haven't done any other drug for at least 3 years except for ocassional alcohol and a couple of trials with GHB (not that day). Snorting them reminded me a lot of cocaine, acid smell, bitter taste, and not at all hard on the nose. My teeth didn't come numb though.

T+10m: Not feeling much, got dressed and went out to meet some friends that were drinking at someone's house.

T+20m: I meet my friends now, I feel ok, I bit speedy and happy but not sure it's me or the drug.

T+30m: I definitely feel it right now, I finished my first drink (ron with cola) and feel my heart pounding and I need to move and talk, I'm happy and crear headed but not wired. My friends don't notice anything wierd in my behaviour. I keep drinking.

T+1h: I decide not to take the other pill I planned to take cause I was speedy enough, and i didn't want to ruin a perfect night by OD'ing. I'm feeling very well right now a lot of tingling in my chest which scared me at first but then I realized how plesurable it was and let go. I'm talkative, happy and energetic. I feel a lot of pressure in my jaw and I need to be pressing my teeth all the time. I try to stop that but it is hard.

T+2: I still feel as above although more drunk. It is amazing how easily you can drink while on ritalin, and the little effect it has in you.

T+3: I stopped drinking but not because I feel drunk, it's just that the number of drinks scares me. We go to the pub. No effects diminished at all, still the same, although mouth is getting worse. I drink water

T+3.5: We go to the disco and I still feel very sociable and warm but energy is decreasing, I'm very thirsty. No other bad feelings.

T+4.5: I'm ok now, delighted for the good experience but effects are all gone and I'm feeling drunk. Met my girlfriend and went home.

T+5: I smoke some weed and went to bed. Sleep was easy but not good. I fell asleep in 10 min but I woke up several times. Dreams were rare. I don't get good sleep when I drink only anyway so it might not have been the rits.

Next day I felt a bit of hangover.

Overall it was a great night. I think methylphenidate is much better than coke. I know many of you will say I'm out of my mind for saying this. It is cheaper, longer lasting and better in effects. Good drug I found. I can't wait to try it as study aid and to help concentrate.

In retrospect I would like to say that I was maybe TOO talkative, and now I know I should've watched this better as I said things I shoudn't have said and made me look stupid sometimes.... "

I hope you all have enjoyed this trip I made up and encourage you to post ritalin experiences that you imagine or SWIM or your rat lab lived.

[matt_adhd]

SWIM would agree with robin_himself. 40mg is the best dose SWIM prefers after snorting from 10mg to 200mg in the past, side effects increase with dosage. 40mg is the highest recreational dose on average for effects but dose may depend on other factors like alcohol intoxication. really good post robin_himself perfect scaling.

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM snorted her Ritalin for the first time today. Crushed power of 5mg at first and SWIM felt NOTHING!

SWIM checked out the fine ass drugs-forum and decided to snort another 10mg. And that's just what she did. Still nothing at first.

20 minutes or so later, SWIM felt a mellow high. To SWIM, it was no better or worse than having 5 shots down the system. :p

Um...3 hours later SWIM is wondering if she should get another round of shots...

DAMN! Snort is thirsty.

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM is seriously numb right now. Drinking water like a fish and her brain is slow like a turtle. Heart's beating at 87/min, 20 beats above her normal range.

Totally can't study anymore. Presentation on Monday?? Fuuugedaboutit!:eek:

[AsIaN_ChIcK]

SWIM just snorted another 10mg of Ritalin and took a 5mg pill orally. She does not feel any high, but defintely is more awake and alert now comparing to 5 minutes ago. She no longer feels slow. SWIM thinks the numbness might be part of the aftereffect of ritalin wearing off.

WTH, SWIM doesn't feel high still. SWIM think she's going to start working now since she probably has a good 2 hour window before becoming numb again.

BTW, I just want to document my first time ritalin experimence and share it with everybody here. Feel free to ask me to shut up if this annoys you or if anybody thinks this is a waste of forum space since, apprantly, I am the only one posting on this thread.

[Nagognog2]

In the future do you suppose SWIM could wait until all is said and done before posting? Combine the report into one post as is usually done? Otherwise, as happens, we end up with a disjointed record that is more difficult to read and/or place in archives.

Thread merged.

[Alicia]

SWIM just snorted another 10mg of Ritalin and took a 5mg pill orally. She does not feel any high, but defintely is more awake and alert now comparing to 5 minutes ago. She no longer feels slow. SWIM thinks the numbness might be part of the aftereffect of ritalin wearing off.

WTH, SWIM doesn't feel high still. SWIM think she's going to start working now since she probably has a good 2 hour window before becoming numb again.

BTW, I just want to document my first time ritalin experimence and share it with everybody here. Feel free to ask me to shut up if this annoys you or if anybody thinks this is a waste of forum space since, apprantly, I am the only one posting on this thread.

Always fun to report your experiences. swia has been curious about Ritalin pills so its useful for her to read.She not sure if this has been covered before but she'll still read. Have fun with your presentation ;)

[x cynic x]

For his first time swim recently insufflated 2 5mg pills containing Ritalin and felt a strong wariness of his surroundings for about a half hour. Halfway through, swim decided to sit down and discovered that he had lost all interest in mobility. Rather than moving around, he found it more pleasant to simply chat amongst his associates and observe the scenery. Can anyone relate to this type of reaction?

[x cynic x]

Oh and also swim neglected to mention how he took a couple of pills orally but did not notice much of an effect until now. He is now being kept wide awake all night without a single sedative available. The only thing better than being kept up all night is having work in the morning.

[rising1]

Ritalin Experience :

First a little background on prior drug usage. SWIM (whom I knew pretty well) uses low dosage adderall via insuffication (30 mg) 3 to 4 times a week. SWIM used to use cocaine and methamphetamine recreationally for quite some time (3 to 4 years) but has gotten out of the lifestyle in the last year or so.SWIM used ~1.75 to 2.5 gr of cain over the course of a usual night and approx .5 to .75 gr per day when using methamphetamine (snorted usually, smoking didnt seem to last long enough and made the drug seem more like a "fien" drug to SWIM). In SWIMs opinion (everyone has one;) mixed amphetamine salts (adderall) , especially upon beginning to use them, felt more akin to MDMA than methamphetamine. More euphoria than rush. SWIM has access to ritalin on an occasional basis but does not usually indulge. I present the following experience report for informational purposes only and this never really happened SWIM just made it all up.
RITALIN (20 mg, insufficated)
+5 min began to feel the kick , and suprisingly a little numbness which was definitely not expected
+15 nice euphoria, more of a relaxed euphoria than meth or adderall, pleasant thoughts and bodily sensations
+45 still feeling good but feeling the beginning of a comedown.
+ ~1:15 Pretty much down
Now if that was the end of it then SWIM might indulge in the drug more often. However, and this may just be SWIM, but after the roughly hour and a half high, a deep depression sets in that runs at least the course of the next 3 to 4 hours if not until SWIM goes to sleep. The meaning of the word dopamine depletion becomes very clear to swim during this period. SWIM feels it is similiar to caocaine in this respect however unlike cocaine, SWIM does not feel a extreme need to do more of the drug, just a deep depression.Does anyone run in to this as well?

[svenghali]

:eek: Go somewhere else to do that. Buying prescription drugs off of the internet is illegal. This may be a forum full of knowledgable individuals, but that's not how we roll.

[x cynic x]

Oh no ! A poor victim of ignorance. To the rules of these forums. Please take a moment from Swiy's busy schedule to look them over, even though Swiy was advised at registration.

[4chanspy]

swim would take like 10 - 20mg oral

then through out the night swim would keep taking little bumps.

wile im stimulated i like to make stuff, i.e 3d modeling, writing, games, reading

swim thinks its one of the best drugs out there, swim canceled his adderall xr perscription becuase adderall sucks balls, swim thinks he has an anphetimine resistance or something becusae he didnt get anything out of it even at really high doses. but ritalin reminds swim of that time he had coke, amazingly smart and creative.

[Nagognog2]

Before you respond to a post like the two now deleted, please think of how the thread will read with your reply and the idiot's post no longer visible.

Get the picture? Next time, just hit the /!\ button and report the imbecile.

Thanks.

[outofstep]

ok seriously, most f'd up 'side effect' ever, SWIM doesn't know whether to cry because it worsened his depression or what, he's trying to laugh hoping it's temporary....SWIM thinks an ssri is actually working too. gg lexapro. anyways, first of all it is causing an INSANE degree of add, every word SWIM writes he has to think first. SWIM really hopes this isn't the equivalent to actual add, cause he couldn't live like this. But that's not the worse of it, no exaggeration, at all, as soon as the first 20mg ORAL (weak asssss dose) hit, it came with a baseball at full force carrying a massive load of anhedonia, with a side of stare at your computer bitch and do what i say. which involves nothing but message boards, this is seriously a weird ass feeling, even on klonopin. NOTHING IS PLEASUREABLE :[. SWIM will try Welbutrin. Also, non existent comedown which doesn't really matter if there was no pleasure. Is this the zombie reaction kids have to Ritalin? this is unethical, immoral, and lacking SWIM of his weak but noticable pleasure.
Oh not to mix up, that was SWIMS FIRST dose of the TODAY. Yesterday all swim got was uncontrollable hyperfocus, extremely counterproductive. Lost track of about 9 hours.


SWIM assumes it's on to Focalin IR. from here.

[Cob]

Swim Snorted 40 mgs first time, alone at home, feeling interesting.Swim keeps himself busy, cleanin the house, walkin around..... feel like chattin someone up :)

[seeingred]

ok seriously, most f'd up 'side effect' ever, SWIM doesn't know whether to cry because it worsened his depression or what, he's trying to laugh hoping it's temporary....SWIM thinks an ssri is actually working too. gg lexapro. anyways, first of all it is causing an INSANE degree of add, every word SWIM writes he has to think first. SWIM really hopes this isn't the equivalent to actual add, cause he couldn't live like this. But that's not the worse of it, no exaggeration, at all, as soon as the first 20mg ORAL (weak asssss dose) hit, it came with a baseball at full force carrying a massive load of anhedonia, with a side of stare at your computer bitch and do what i say. which involves nothing but message boards, this is seriously a weird ass feeling, even on klonopin. NOTHING IS PLEASUREABLE :[. SWIM will try Welbutrin. Also, non existent comedown which doesn't really matter if there was no pleasure. Is this the zombie reaction kids have to Ritalin? this is unethical, immoral, and lacking SWIM of his weak but noticable pleasure.
Oh not to mix up, that was SWIMS FIRST dose of the TODAY. Yesterday all swim got was uncontrollable hyperfocus, extremely counterproductive. Lost track of about 9 hours.


SWIM assumes it's on to Focalin IR. from here.


Swim is having a similar experience. Hyperalertness but zombified and lack of mood. Kind of like zeroing in and zoning out at the same time. Swim would never put a kid on this if this had the same effect on them. But still using it because there doesn't seem to be an alternative.

[stimulerium]

SWIM was prescribed to 36 and 54 mg Concerta for ADD. A few years after SWIM got off his meds, he found the bottles containing the pils. He found 10mg Ritalin along with his Concertas (apparently SWIM also took 10mg Ritalin at 7 pm too).

He first snorted a Ritalin and got a mood lift and euphoria, listening to music was fun too. Moving around or talking was enjoyable. When coming down however, SWIM got very restless and irritable.

Later on, his usual dose was half a 36 mg Concerta and the other half when he peaked. SWIM thinks that with tolerance (I used it almost daily) the mood lift disappears and you feel like you have no emotions through out the whole high, and get the zombie effect mentioned by seeingred and outofstep.

As for addictiveness, SWIM has an addictive personality but he felt Concerta was making him do it every day. When SWIM ran out however, he had no wihdrawal symptoms nor made any effort to get more.

[doolishis]

From my buddy's experience, Dexmethylphenidate>Methylphenidate. Some people say the isolated D-isomer deal is no biggie and gives them the same effect as Methylphenidate, but then there are those like my good buddy. He discovered D-Methyl afterwards and realized a much smoother, cleaner, & less confusing rush.

From his experience: He snorted Ritalin for awhile and liked the high, except at high doses (80+mg). He would stare at a webpage and read paragraphs over and over, or try writing an email and just laugh 'cause he'd keep backspacing and forgetting where he was getting at. He hated the comedown ALOT. Sleeping/Eating 8-10 hours after a 40-60mg dose didn't come easy. The thought of food was too nauseating and even 50mg of diphenhydramine just makes for a night of toss-n-turn/30minsOfSleepHere'n'There.

Then he looked into D-Methyl and found it was supposedly more potent.

It is. It's also a more "focused"-type rush which has same effects as methyl like highly focused concentration BUT my buddy didn't get confused/sluggish/slow/grumpy on the comedown like methyl usually makes him. He just returns to baseline and all is well. If anything, he's in a somewhat better mood than usual.

-He has fun for a good 2-3 hours on a tweeked out high with one 40-60mg dose, walking around the apt doing random tasks.
-The comedown is more gentle.
-It fades away quicker and he is usually able to sleep/eat 6-7 hours after his last rail, albeit with the help of diphenhydramine.

He quite simply likes D-methyl much better. Screw Ritalin.

[seeingred]

At 37mgs Concerta caused a state of total awareness, yet lack of coordination and anxiety. No paranoia. No hallucinations. 27mgs alongside 5 cups of coffee produced a state of strange social phobia alongside of extrasensory perceptions.

[Stuck]

SWIM wrote an art history paper for his friend and got paid in ritalin. He popped open a 20mg capsule and separated the beads into 2 piles. SWIM assumed that it was an extended release ritalin capsule. He crushed up half of the beads into a fine power and orally ingested said powder. It has been an hour and a half and he is feeling good and productive. Slight chest congestion but no jitters. He feels like he is borderline euphoric.

It was approximately 10mg of, now IR, methylphenidate and he is planning to crush up the other beads later maybe to get some work done. Overall, pretty good. He likes it more than adderall.

[Valefar]

My pet gerbil is prescribed Ritalin due to having ADD. My pet gerbil in case you were wondering has the IQ of the average human. Anyway. One night, knowing that Ritalin was just another form of amphetamine, my pet gerbil did some research on the subject. After much research, and in need of a temporary vice, he began.

He took two 20mg capsules. First he separated the plastic tube surrounding the Ritalin. Then he proceeded to carefully place the little balls on the table. He then took a business card and placed it on top of the balls, and slowly crushed them into a fine powder with the aid of a battery. My pet gerbil then made 3 lines for snorting, and 1 pile for use with a cigarette. He snorted the lines. My pet gerbil said that he initially felt a little spaced. Apparently his general awareness had raised rather significantly. He informed me that the come down from this was pleasant. When the effects had worn off, he lit a cigarette. He then dipped the end in the pile he made previously, and took several large drags. He dipped the cigarette in the pile again, and repeated the process till all was gone. My gerbil explained how the effects were vast in their differences to snorting the substance. He said that the "high" was much larger, he felt a little shaky, a little nauseas, and a little disorientated. The effects however lasted for a much shorter time than when he snorted. He also explained that the come down from that was unpleasant.

Timmy the gerbil was intrigued, and explained how he wished to continue his research...

[Agimate`]

Be prepared this is a very long post because SWIM is on concerta while he writes it and am going into detail.

Swim's experiances with Methylphenidate have only been of ritalin and concerta. but before Swim start's he's going to give Swiy a brief history on the drugs he has taken.

In order of first used:
Enhalents, Alchohol, Weed, Nos, Co-codamol (Panadeine Forte), Zolpidem (Stilnox), Ritalin, Nutmeg, Ecstasy, Concerta.

Swim's first experience was about half a year ago when his parents went away and he had some friends over for a weed, alchohol and nos session. A few of the people that were there were keeping him busy and not letting him enjoy his night. However around 12 that night everyone at his house had fallen asleep except for Swim and his friend.

Swim's friend had 40 x 10mg (400mg) of Methylphenidate in ritalin pills in a bag and offered Swim some. Swim and Swim's friend dropped 20mg to start with but after about 30 minutes the effects still hadnt kicked in so they both snorted a further 20mg. Swim can be a very impacient person and he decided to take some nos about 15 minutes after snorting. The nos was extremely intence for him. It was nothing like the weed nos comparison but almost felt as if the room was bouncing in at him.

However after swim finished taking the nos he snorted some more lines with his friend. Swim and his friend ended up talking about some of there very deep and personal secrets in which they never would have told each other if they werent on the drug even thought they are good friends. Alot of the issues discussed were to do with childhood and parenting and how parenting affects children growing up.

Swim and his friend ended up snorting all of the ritalin over the night (200mg) Methylphenidate, didnt get a wink of sleep and talked very deeply. Swim had the jitters very bad all night and couldnt help doing very tedious things such as make lines over and over again out of the same ritalin with a card. Swim also had no gum or any food for the entire night (about 8 hours), because of this swim subconsiously clenched his jaw very hard the entire night.

The next morning Swim's friend left early before the people at the house woke up. Swim talked energetically to the waking stoners for around 30 minutes with them curiously wondering what the hell he was going on about until the comedown began.

Swim suddenly got very depressed and felt as if there was nothing he wanted to do and (by that swim means not sitting on the couch thinking about what you could be doing, but infact coming to a realisation that nothing in the world satisfies you anymore > No point in living > SWIM should probably just kill himself but then what is the point in that, it would hurt people close to him, prove nothing and he cant be bothered anyway)

Swim kept reminding the people in his house to leave because he needed to clean it before his parents got back. Whilst reminding them every few minutes to leave as soon as they could, Swim paced constantly around the house doing tedious things such as: Picking up a beer bottle, walking through several rooms then walking back to the room it was from and placing it down in the same spot. Swim can also remember being an arsehole to his friends that were there by little things such as shaking his head at them as if he was dissapointed in them or returning a point they were making with a detailed rebuttle (e.g. shutting them down). As Swim's friends were leaving they asked swim if he could walk them down to the bus stop around 200m away because they werent sure where it was, but swim practically told them to get out of his house.

After Swim's friends left, Swim could not get the idea out of his head that his life was pointless, to him it seemed like throughout his life he would never enjoy himself and then one day die. As this thought was making the comedown even more depressing for him, he decided to busy himself by cleaning the house.

Swim cleaned the house for a good 3-4 hours whilst pacing, clenching his jaw and thinking deeply in a very emo way. After cleaning Swim tried to eat something ended up throwing it out, then Swim tried to goto sleep in many different places around his house but wasn't sucessful. Swim tried listening to music but the usual metal freaked him out and he ended up listening to the most emo music he had which didn't help his situation.Swim ended up going onto his computereven though there was no point to him. However the thought of staring at nothingness felt better than pacing to him.

However when Swim got onto his computer and logged onto msn, he found the same friend that he had taken the methylphenidate with the night before and he was experiancing a relative comedown. Swim told his friend that he never wanted to take any drugs ever again. The two conversed for a few hours until Swim started to feel normal again.

Sorry about the length of this post but it was a very good/bad memorable experiance for swim.

As mentioned before Swim was clenching his jaw during the stage of the high and the comedown. Although it didnt seem like much at the time becuase he wasnt in a state of mind to pay any attention to it. Swim's jaw became very sore that day worsend by the next. After a few days Swim could not keep a straight face because of the pain in his Jaw and he would lie asleep at night trying to forget about the pain until he would go to sleep soon to awaken because of the stabbing pain in his Jaw.

Swim went to the doctor to get some pain killers. Swim told the doctor he had a saw jaw from grinding his teeth because he was nervous that his parents would come back to the house being messy and Swim would get in trouble (this seemed like a good enough exuse). The doctor told him just to use asprin because it was strained jaw muscles.

Swim spent a few days using asprin to keep the pain at bay, which worked. However as soon as the asprin wore off the pain returned which was quite annoying waking in the middle of the night, taking more and having to wait till they took affect before he could sleep.

Swim would get angry and snappy at family members when not on the asprin. Swims mother doesnt like the idea of drugs and was trying to wein swim off them slowly but it wasnt helping the situation because he would sware at her ultil she gave them to him.

In the end Swim's mother made swim goto physiotherapy a few times until the pain in the jaw was gone. Apparently there is a muscle in the neck connected to the jaw and the physiotherapist gave swim stretches which ended up fixing the pain.

The moral of the story is: have gum if your going to binge this stuff or speed or E or meth or whatever and on your first time Dont take as much as Swim did it is a very bad idea

Thanks

Agimate` added 4 Minutes and 30 Seconds later...

SWIM realises he is not the first person to have a comedown but i just want to make people realise that the comedown from this drug can be very harsh if u take too much of it and your not used to it

[Mysticaldreamer]

Once again newbie alert...lol wanted to write my friends male friends first two expierences with 2 different Ritalin types. Before anyone gets up since the birds are singing.... We have been up all night fussing cussin and discussing. Ok First time for swim was lol exactly a week ago I would want to say he got a script of ritilan sr 20 mg. He took his first one as directed just to see if he would feel anything from that. Which in 15 minutes he was feeling so warm, happy, mood uplifted telling me and anyone else who would listen ritalin is his new bestfriend. Had shopping to do which lasted oh say 3 hours from the time he had taken his dose.Get back and he said hey didn't I read u can blow these and the rush is bigger? I said yes and before I could say anything else he was choppin it up. He said the feeling was 10 times more intense his head tingled, he felt a huge surge of hype. 10 minutes later swim is nonstop talking feeling really really good. Swim gets online and notices he is all into this storie he has found online so this takes alot of swims time without him knowing it. Swim realizes he wants another hit and this time frame was like 3 hours. Swim said he felt no coming down ill effects just felt he was loosing the high. Swim again took 20mg to blow then heard if u swallow one it last longer so swim does this as well. At this point I am asking my friend to ask her male friend if it is to much what about over dose since none of my dogs ever messed with stims just downers and the dogs know when to much is to much. This is all new so swim mocho man says I was reading for that 3 hours and it was about accidental od's swim said every report said it is almost unlikely to do so on ritilan and I started to question which swim interupts with BUT........ there's a but there it does tons of awful stuff to your heart which you would end up in ER for heart before an OD. To me still scarey stuff. Swim continued this binge through out the night taking a good 10 20 mg tablets of the sr which imo is way to much spaced out or not. The more swim did he said that feel good sensation went away all he was left with was intense awake and alertness kind of a speedy feeling but none of the other things from earlier. Not saying what swim done was right but it had been a very long time since swim did any kind of drugs or had any kind of high including drinking so he went over board. Sorry so long or if this isn't written out right but I'm new and will learn as i go so my post will get better.

Ok now for swim's second attempt. Swim got this idea that the none time released rit would be stronger and if he could have that warm good feeling everyday and be able to take it 3 times a day opposed to the sr which was once a day he wouldn't do any binges like that anymore or if so once in a blue moon and he swore if he could get the none released ones he would take them as directed since he could enjoy this 3 times a day now. So tells doc these don't last me long enough my cousin says he takes them 3 x a day the none release so..... he gets his wish the doc switches it. Here's the story from swim. Get script at 11 am run to car take first pill at 11:15 makes it home in 30 minutes..... Nothing nodda not a warm twinge speed jolt nothing. Swim thinks ok maybe that last time i took those sr it hit me in an hour so maybe this to. 12:15 still nothing not even the feeling of being alert he says all he feels is frustrated and disappointed thinking these work quicker and have same umph to them. Apparently i wont bore you with times or what not but just say swim never felt anything from these 20mg none time released as he did on sr even just by taking by mouth he felt great and with these no matter if he blew ate crushed took whole about all he got was keeping me up all night complaining...lol asking me why or what did he do, or questions well is one stronger and i screwed up by telling my doc those didn't last i wanted to try these. and now these do nothing for him but keep him awake he doesn't even get the real talkive ways he did last time. Needless to say going through this trip was not a fun one with him. the other one he was fun until the end using my friends computer and her to post a question on here about using to much at once for tolerances he was starting to come down wiggin over stuff. Any way I know this was long but thought if I posted 2 for them i might be double posting but thanks for reading. Figured maybe someone might learn from this or may have expierenced simular cause like I told swim I have no idea why one would work but the other not do a thing it's the same med. So if anyone knows and would like to share with a newbie I would appreciate it. I may post later as swim now is saying he read that first night that if u mix baking soda with rit in lines and blow it intensifies or whatever that word is they use to make it stronger and last longer so guess we shall see. Have a fun happy weekend all

[concertaritalinadderall]

Listen the XR Ritalin or Concerta comes in say a 36mg dose thats equivalent to 30mg of ritalin ...to last you 12 hours ..thats very little ritalin at a time hitting you over 12 hours so You are not going to feel any rush ..just be able to get just enough to concentrate. Now say take 30mg of ritalin at one time it hits you all immediately you will feel it. Thats the difference. SWIY is just sayin'

[Mysticaldreamer]

Thank you for the reply. I will let swim know this info I found. Swim has laid off due to his last trip wasn't to fun he got anxiety and like I said was wiggin out. He told me it took like two days for him to get rid of the depressed anxiouse feelings. Guess this was a bad come down from what we have read. So thanks again for the helpful info.

[cra$h]

compared to aderall, concerta isn't shit. especially the time release (I don't know if there's instant release). even when you're pushin up to 100mg of connie, it's rare to get geeked. you'll barely speed once in a while, but compared to 100mg of aderall, connie's a bitch. the only other difference swim has found between the 2 is aderall is more weird. and swim is more of a cocky douche when on connies. it's hard to explain what concerta's like when you're not speeding...

[Valefar]

SWIM was taking 60mg of Equasym XL daily (as prescribed for ADD) for a long period. SWIM would crush and snort the ritalin instead of swallowing it as he felt this was more beneficial. SWIM often took doses in excess of 150mg as he enjoyed the feeling, the ability to concentrate and enabled him to work like a trooper in his job. Aside from the fact SWIM was snorting his medication, he felt like everything was going great. Right?

Wrong. 2 weeks ago SWIM realised he was dependant on the drug. So SWIM decided that he would stop taking them as he didn't want the withdrawals or to be dependant on a stimulant, so he got rid of his prescription... the wrong way. Over a weekend SWIM crushed and snorted 45 60mg tablets, SWIM told himself this was so he could get rid of them once and for all, but really it was because he wanted the high, he could easily have handed them in.

So it was Monday, SWIM had no medication, yet strangely was feeling ok. Then all of a sudden, SWIM started behaving very strange. He started acting like a very hyperactive 7 year old, he broke pens, threw stuff around, and generally messed around being an idiot for about 3 hours (while at work!). At about 12pm, the hyperactivity faded... and the severe depression set in. To cut an even longer story short, SWIM ended up in hospital with stitches in his wrist. Fortunately the people at SWIMS place of work were and continue to be very supportive.

SWIM has vowed to never take an overdose of ritalin again.

[warandhate]

Swim is experienced with many psychoactives. MaryJane has been his friend for many years now. Beer is liked. Cocaine used to be done quite often. Meth has been tried. Oxycontin abused along with the occasional Hbomb. Swim loves Xanax and other benzzies.

Onto his experience. . . Swim would snort and take orrally adderall quite often in highschool and not as often while in college. Swim would say he is very knowledgeable about amphetimine salts dexamphetimine etc.

.First off swim has been taking about 2mg of suboxone a day for the last 3-4months. Also swim is on about 10mg of lexapro a day.

Today is the 3rd day of his Methlyphenidate experience. After Swim had very little fun with Straterra he was able to receive some generic ritalin (even tho he really wanted adderall). Swim received six 5mg IR generic methylphenidate and thirty 20mg Sr tablets(tablets not capsules?)

First day in the morning swim took two 5mg IR tablets. Swim was not too impressed tho did give him good energy, and some euphoria.

Second day same dose but swim starts to realize hes a little too chatty and gets in a fight with a good friend while drinking that night. Sleep that night was difficult even tho a little buzzed from beer. Dreams were of swim at a rave themed like a civil war and swim killed many people that night. NEVER has swim had a dream like this. Swim usually very mellow.

3rd day(today) swim decides to skip the IR and go straight for the SR. Swim wakes up pops one 20mg and goes back to sleep. Swim sleeps alot. Swim doesnt wake up for what feels like a couple hours and when he does feels very tired. That was about 1hour ago. Swim has drank a bit of a water and smoked a cigarette and now feels quite awake. Swim dont feel UP like adderall would make him but definately knows he is cuz he wouldnt be rambling on like this if he werent. Stomach feels a bit upset. Need food he thinks. Swim likes the SR better now but still wishes it was XR adderall. Adderall just seems to really fuck swim up even at a low 10mg dose.
ALL DOSES WERE TAKEN ORALLY

Soon swim will try insufalazation =]

Feel good i reccommend everyone try a lil.

PEACELOVEUNITY my brothers and sisters

OakMaster

[perrucho]

OK swim has a question. Swim was prescribed ritalin for his bipolar swings. He's been taking it for 4 dyas now. 50 mg a day oraly divided in 3 times. Swim is not getting anything out of ritalin but the side effects, so he decided to try a higher dose, he took 60mg in only one dose oraly, and still got nothing out of it. Has anyone heard of this happenning before, if so any other stimulant to help him focus? Swim has a very resistant to "downers" such as rivotril

[dcnot420]

Swim thicks adderall concerta and ritalin r good 4 when u need 2 get shit done and swim is trying 2 concentrate but swim feels like he gets moody and is easily pissed off at shit he normally wouldnt b especially if he has nothing 2 do.

[Tom Cruise]

swim is fairly experienced with concerta, he has been prescribed 36mg for around a year now
over the summer he made the decision to take 10 of his concerta
he cant remember much of what happened that day but i will update this post when he gives me more information
what he does remember is that he was constantly second guessing his decisions last minute and kept thinking he may have ODd though later at night he did some research and found out, to his relief, that he did not

with any luck, updates coming soon!