View Full Version : Drug info - Huffing Ether
Bodhisattva500
03-12-2004, 06:00
I just tryed to huff some extracted ether out of starting fluid. I put it on a american flag and put it up to my nose and huffed for about 3to 4 seconds. I didnt feel anything. How long are you supposed to huff it for?
Pinkavvy
03-12-2004, 06:04
stop opening so many topics about the same thing. it's called double-posting and now allowed by the rules.
and huffing is dangerous. if you must, you huff the ether until you feel it, taking breaths of air often enough not to suffocate.
Pinkavvy
03-12-2004, 06:29
not allowed*
Just drink gasoline.... its easier to get and hits you much quicker.
Micklemouse
03-12-2004, 10:13
Not helpful, fella, in fact downright dangerous. Not that starter fluid is by any means safe!
If your going to get your ether this way for god's sake do a search on extracting the ether from the fluid. Better still find a chemist who'll get you some proper ether. Better yet, don't bother. Ime it's fun the first time, but after that it just gives a banging headache and makes you puke. Plus it's highly flammable and makes you smell like an alcoholic for about 24 hours. Nasty stuff, as are solvents generally.
I was recently in an automotive store and I was reading labels to pass time when I came across pipe cleaner ( I think, some kinda cleaner) and after numertous flamability warnings it said "contains di-ethyl ether" but it didn't say any other contents so i went to erowid to see it said that atomotive ether is less safe than medicinal ether, I was wondering is there anyone who has tried auto ether or has any info about it?
rosstifer
22-03-2005, 05:05
There is a way to extract it from starter fluid
purplehaze
22-03-2005, 14:18
Ether was alot more popular when carboraters were around, see ether used to be used in older cars and tractors and things alot more than they are now, mostly ether was sprayed directly into the carb to help it crank because sometimes a car wouldnt get enough gas and ether is HIGHLY FLAMABLE so be carefull if you do anything with it. Ether is still available somewhere because go karts and fourwheelers and smaller engines still have carbs but the art of perfection is coming up and some four wheelers even have fuel injection systems already.
poweredbyhate
22-03-2005, 18:55
I've read about people who have used starter fluid as their source of
ether for recreational purposes. It won't be as clean as reagent
grade ether, but will still work.
Check out this trip report on erowid: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=3015
It talks a little about using water to separate ether from the other
components of starter fluid (like heptane or hexane, which are
undesirable).
I believe there are actually some starter fluids or other products that
contain only diethyl ether, which would be preferred. I think
most would contain ether in addition to stabilizers or lubricants.
Well a reply didn't come fast enough so i tried it.. it was good i dint have much by any meens like in comparison to feer and loathing it was nothing but i still felt ot a bit, so im sure ill do more, but thank you all for your input
stuckmojo
31-01-2006, 16:12
Ok so im not sure it goes here so if you move this thats fine but i have a can of pyroil starting fluid and have been wanting to try ether so could anybody just share all the knowledge they have ive heard dont worry about the extraction just use it straight from the can but your guys input would be appreciated.
ok so i got some starting fluid it contains
heptane(142-82-5)
diethyl Ether(60-29-7)
carbon dioxide(124-38-9)
Nagognog2
31-01-2006, 18:04
Toss it. Don't inhale starting fluid. The heptane will block oxygen from getting to your brain. You;ll get high - but it's the same high one gets from drowning. Got it? Trash can went that a way! ----->
bcStoner420
01-02-2006, 03:43
Ya, if you really really wanna try ether, get your hands on some lab grade stuff. Which for some could prove to be a problem. If your one that has a problem obtaining it, then move your intrests elsewhere.
Ya, if you really really wanna try ether, get your hands on some lab grade stuff.
You might want to give the pro's and con's with that advise...
bcStoner420
01-02-2006, 03:49
The only con that I can think of is the chance the DEA gets involved. Other than that, it's till ether, which isn't exactly a great thing to be doing and can cause nerve damage, or you can die instantly from lack of oxygen (sudden inhalation something or other, can't think of the term right now sorry) this can happen with any and all inhalants. As for the pros, well it's pretty obvious but that way your not inhaling extra additives, carcinogens, and lubricants.
Alfa-If there was something you had in mind that I missed, please let us know, because other than that I'm stumped.
Can't an extraction/[urification be done with water? Though don't go out and try it, with out more research. and isn't there a whole other thread on this?
bcStoner420
02-02-2006, 05:45
Can't an extraction/[urification be done with water? Though don't go out and try it, with out more research. and isn't there a whole other thread on this?
It doesn't clean everything out, it leaves in all lubricants and other chems that I can't think ATM.
Nagognog2
02-02-2006, 06:35
A mixture of heptane and diethyl ether would require fractional distallation to separate effectively. And this is not something you can do in your kitchen sink. Pure diethyl ether is a very dangerous substance to work with in a laboratory setting - let alone huffing it from a can of starting fluid. Pure ether can explode if allowed to evaporate unless you have added a suitable reducing agent to prevent formation of peroxides. It can be ignited from a spark from your alarm clock or fridge going on. It requires very much special care to handle. Please take this into consideration before you decide to let your lab rat near this substance.
robertone
02-02-2006, 11:13
More, the surface of a lightbulb is hot enough to let autoignite ether vapors.
not knowing much about ether, swim would like to try it.... but naturaly need lots of info first..
any trip reports... doses... pros... cons.... etc swim should know?!
including availability....NO! swims not asking anyone to sell it to her just... is it redily available or very hard to find?!
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in swims honest opinion ether really isnt all that. swim has had a large lab grade bottle that was appropriated from the university lab bench some time ago, and has had a fair huff or 2.
Since it used to be used as a general anesthetic i guess u could knock yourself out if u tried really hard but if you just huff a bit it really doesn't do much, especially if u are stone cold sober as it is. The only time swims ever really noticed any effect was when quite pissed and once or twice on pills.
It was a very subtle new layer of fuckedness to add to the weed, alcohol and pills, but all in all really not worth it if you have to go to trouble obtaining it. some of my other labrats reported feeling quite consiberably more fucked after huffing in thoes circumstances, one even resulted in falling on its arse...
bcStoner420
15-02-2006, 00:50
Lol, I imagine smoking anything after just huffing ether isn't a very smart idea. There would still be ether vapours left over in your lungs. Or do you smoke then huff?
exactly so - bong first ether second! u one isn't really compelled to smoke much after that
Codehead
25-04-2008, 22:36
Why there are so many stupid idiots on SWIMs internet? Ether is not dangerous, its less harmless than alcohol. If SWIY have to choose , alcohol or ether, than ether is much better and not that dangerous.
Paracelsus
26-04-2008, 02:15
Any real sources to confirm this? And I don't mean early-20th-century pastors who advocated ether as a substitute for the evil alcohol.
(unless your statement that ether is less harmless than alcohol was not a typo)
_Interwebs_
27-04-2008, 09:28
Any real sources to confirm this? And I don't mean early-20th-century pastors who advocated ether as a substitute for the evil alcohol.
(unless your statement that ether is less harmless than alcohol was not a typo)
Oh, well since ether boils at just below body temperature, you'll be burping up some seriously explosive gas. People actually died from going out for a smoke after ether...
Koyotuma
09-05-2008, 19:54
SWIM has recently acquired a 500ml bottle of ether and had a few questions he asked me to pass on. The first concerned the method of huffing; when SWIM started on the rag he used only his nose and it was all rather pleasant and low key, but when he changed to the mouth it became much more intense to the point that for some 10 seconds (he thinks though the actual amount of time is unknown for obvious reasons) it felt like his brain shut down. His arms drooped to his sides, his head hung down and all he could feel was a strange buzzing sensation, he also tells me he could not hear anything except a loud ringing noise even though there was fairly loud music playing. At this point SWIM had become quite concerned that this was the side effects of extensive organic damage and he was hoping some more experienced Ether user could tell if this is normal or abnormal?
He was also wondering if anyone had any "ether breath" removal tips? SWIM used a mixture of mints, toothbrushing, listerine, coffee and swiming pool water to remove his in about 15hrs...any one have any improvements on that?
On a side note SWIM mentioned he was entranced with the seeming steepness of the dose/response curve beyond a certain point... saves on ether :p
_Interwebs_
09-05-2008, 22:15
SWIM has recently acquired a 500ml bottle of ether and had a few questions he asked me to pass on. The first concerned the method of huffing; when SWIM started on the rag he used only his nose and it was all rather pleasant and low key, but when he changed to the mouth it became much more intense to the point that for some 10 seconds (he thinks though the actual amount of time is unknown for obvious reasons) it felt like his brain shut down. His arms drooped to his sides, his head hung down and all he could feel was a strange buzzing sensation, he also tells me he could not hear anything except a loud ringing noise even though there was fairly loud music playing. At this point SWIM had become quite concerned that this was the side effects of extensive organic damage and he was hoping some more experienced Ether user could tell if this is normal or abnormal?
He was also wondering if anyone had any "ether breath" removal tips? SWIM used a mixture of mints, toothbrushing, listerine, coffee and swiming pool water to remove his in about 15hrs...any one have any improvements on that?
On a side note SWIM mentioned he was entranced with the seeming steepness of the dose/response curve beyond a certain point... saves on ether :p
the only thing that would effectively get the ether out would be something that it's soluble in. unfortunately, very few of those solvents are things you would want to put in your mouth. the safest thing would be acidified water, like strong lemon juice. of course, that won't get it out of your lungs, but it's worth a try.
since the ether breath is that last bit of ether working its way out of entrapment in your lungs, you could probably speed up the process with really deep breaths and lots of coughing. mr.SWIM noticed that the ether breath was most noticeable when coughing or sneezing, so it could help.
one last thing: ether boils at 35C, which is colder than a hot drink, so if you inhaled steam, that could help get it out, plus drinking hot water.
by the way... where/how did swiy get ether?
Paracelsus
09-05-2008, 22:23
ether boils at 35C, which is colder than a hot drink, so if you inhaled steam, that could help get it out, plus drinking hot water.The temperature of the human body is generally above 36 degrees Celsius.
by the way... where/how did swiy get ether?Source discussion is not allowed, sorry.
Panthers007
09-05-2008, 23:01
Actually Diethyl Ether has been found to be approx. 1/2 the toxicity as ethyl alcohol (ethanol C2H5OH). During prohibition, people did drink (diethyl)ether as a substitute. It is said not to produce a hangover.
Koyotuma
15-05-2008, 23:00
Well SWIM finished off his bottle and thinks that you may be right Interwebs as he noticed a significant reduction in the noticability of ether breath when he ate a very powerful orange and drank some orange juice. Incidentally SWIM found that with a little concentration the brain still functions when in the depth of and ether...hit? Not sure of the word to describe the powerfull feeling from a good ether huff as it wears off too quickly to really be a trip. The only bit that concentration can't help with is the damn memory dysfunction! It can get very bad at some points.
And Panthers007, IMHO there is a hangover but in no way a negative one. SWIM just felt calm, happy and generally at peace without any (major) reduction in brain function. The only downside is that it does seem to be addictive (as the anecdotal evidence would suggest) though SWIM has no idea whether this is physical or simply mental since he enjoyed it so very very much....
Psych0naut
16-05-2008, 01:05
Actually Diethyl Ether has been found to be approx. 1/2 the toxicity as ethyl alcohol (ethanol C2H5OH). During prohibition, people did drink (diethyl)ether as a substitute. It is said not to produce a hangover.It was also popular among women to drink for some time, as it was socially unaccepted for them to drink alcohol at that time, which was strictly reserved for men.
^^^ Do you have a reference for that Psych0naut? Not come across it before and it's an interesting little snippet. The flamingo is always looking for references re women and drug use
My Glamorous Gecko has this to say:
"I huffed starter fluid with ether in it and got slightly high maybe not enough but the thing about the drowning highs slightly got to me either way i huffed it motor functions slightly missed ever so slightly my hands couldnt shut slowly theyd trap shut i felt twitchy and jumpy heard a ringing a bit of a pound in my head witch worried me it felt like blood was pooling up or something i imagined it was what the begging of a anerysum would feel like if anerysums had beggings or build ups movement and thought help solve this i came down very quickly was sober even befor getting back in the house short walk no problems walking either definatly stunk but could mask the smell pretty easily this was like the third short high ive had from it definatly the biggest doing more hoping for more each time ive heard of hallucinations or complete lack of motor functions something slightly longer i blasted the stuff into a baggie and inhaled the mist coming after each shot maybe inhaling off the liquid in the bag after but mostly the mist end of story still interested in ether but my pinky started to twitch on its own and that kinda freaked me maybe starter fluids not the best form of ether."
sorry to all for her spelling and lack of punctuation.
Panthers007
22-06-2008, 02:13
RKND1:
You evidently didn't read the rules you agreed to having read when you joined. I suggest you do so now. Pay special attention to the rules regarding self-incrimination. Rules are here:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/announcement.php?f=184&a=1
As a newbie can't edit/delete their posts, I've asked a moderator to assist you.
Swim uses Ether about once a month... usually gotten from staring fluid. SWIM has had though the lab grade Ether. Swim believes it to be one of the weirdest drugs out there because SWIM cannot completely describe the feeling. (SWIM tends to huff large amounts of it when he makes it) but if SWIY knows what SWIY's doing distilling it from starting fluid, you'll be fine ... just dont do it to much ... as SWIM said once every month or so is more than enough... In fact SWIM just finished his last batch about an hour ago.
fiveleggedrat
20-09-2008, 03:45
Pretty sure that ether from starter fluid is impure, unless you just happen to have lab-grade equipment. Not recommend for obvious health reasons.
rainbowgirl
10-03-2009, 15:03
swim has a 500ml bottle of lab reagent diethyl ether prepared for chromatography. it is stabilised with 1ppm pyrogallol and maximum limits of impurities .0006%
Swim is just checking before she does it if this is suitable for huffing and would also like to check if any precautions are needed when storing it as she knows it can form explosive peroxides even when stabilised.
sneak2012
10-03-2009, 16:04
Huffing is great, do via the mouth on a rag for about 5 BIG long huffs. You'll go dizzy as fuck and feel like ur head will explode.
Just be careful as you can die from lack of oxygen to brain, pass out and die.
It also stinks, the smell stays on your breath for at least 12 hours.
Koyotuma
10-03-2009, 22:44
SWIM doesn't know about pyrogallol but at 1ppm it sounds like it might be a stabilizer to stop the formation of Peroxides. My hunch would be that its ok for huffing. As for storage SWIM gets his ether in an HDPE cask filled with some sort of packing material which is then placed at the bottom of a filing cabinet on its own except for SWIMs purified water. SWIM puts a little pinch of Iron (II) sulfate in as a reducing agent and it seems to work though SWIM still gets a little pressure buildup but not to a dangerous level.
robertone
21-03-2009, 11:04
Store at room tempature in a dark brown glass or aluminium flask. Peroxides are build up due reaction with sunlight! Don't open the flask to much, because ether is hygroscopic and attrackting humid from the air will make it unsuitable for chromatographical appliance. Mostly chromatographical quality ether comes in aluminium flask, because the aluminium will reduce the water that is attracted from the air by opening. Di-ethylether always will build up some pressure wenn in closed containers, due its volatile nature.
DrumAndFace
23-04-2009, 21:55
Swim has been offered the oppertunity to use lab grade ether this weekend but is a little apprehensive. Swim has read several trip descriptions and they sound pretty damn cool to him. He worries about the flammability of the liquid as he is also a smoker. Also, He does not like the thought of smelling incredibly strongly of...well, what smell is it? He doesnt know himself.